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Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
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Goldi0218
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Re: Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
Bottom line - 10 month salary spread over 12 months. I do just fine. What becomes a problem is that many teachers pay out of their pockets for supplies and they can only claim $250. They do this because the schools often do not have the materials they need to effectively teach their students.
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MegZee
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Re: Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
Posted by Goldi0218
Bottom line - 10 month salary spread over 12 months. I do just fine. What becomes a problem is that many teachers pay out of their pockets for supplies and they can only claim $250. They do this because the schools often do not have the materials they need to effectively teach their students.
you can claim more than $250 if you itemize your deductions 
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| Posted 3/7/07 8:36 AM |
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MsMBV
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Re: Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
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And a recent purchase of the school district was a $10,000 orchestra pit cover for one of the elementary schools.
How important is this?
Are you freaking kidding me? You have no idea how much this just p!ssed me off.
I am not a teacher, but I have been thinking of working in education for quite some time. My aunts are in the education field as well as many cousins & my grandmother & her sister, etc.
Budget allocation is by far the trickiest thing because no matter what you do someone is unhappy. Everyone has needs and to be honest the student/activities budgeting should not have anything to do with the salaries if the budgets & accounting are being run properly. The two should not be interchangeable.
Coming from an art/music bacground I can appreciate how often the art & music departments are overlooked when supplies & upgrades are needed. I remember having to go out & buy 4, yes 4 instruments for myself b/c there were not enough sufficient "loaners" though the school. My Flute alone cost $500 back in 1989.
I also was in athletics, and we were never questioned about why we needed new uniforms, knee pads, etc every season.
Although I do think that there are many districts where teachers are grossly underpaid, I will say that for the experience & the education level the pay is quite fair. At my job there are several people who HAD to get their master's just to move into middle management, and they are not paid what teachers are paid. Most of us work overtime & do not get paid for that overtime (ah the double-edged sword of becoming mgmt is no more hourly wages).
I do think that the LI/NYC economy overall is unfair & that most people in most fields are undercompensation & over educated for the jobs they do. But I think people need to give more credit & support to teachers in that the teachers are molding the future.
JMO
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MrsRivera
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Re: Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
Just as a general statement: Those in education will never *truly* understand what it takes to do a teacher's job every day. Sure, we have summers off...yes, we get snow days and school holidays. But no one will ever know how draining it is to be completely ON for 7 hours a day...to be responsible for 25 or more students at a time.
As far as salary, I don't think it's nearly enough...but we'll always hear people who think that teaching is "glorified babysitting"...which proves that they have no idea.
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jes81276
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Re: Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
Posted by MrsRivera
Just as a general statement: Those in education will never *truly* understand what it takes to do a teacher's job every day. Sure, we have summers off...yes, we get snow days and school holidays. But no one will ever know how draining it is to be completely ON for 7 hours a day...to be responsible for 25 or more students at a time.
As far as salary, I don't think it's nearly enough...but we'll always hear people who think that teaching is "glorified babysitting"...which proves that they have no idea.
Very well put - anyone who thinks we are paid too much or have it easy can surely come and teach my 25 2nd graders for a day, then let me know how you feel. That is why I love having parents in my room, bc at the end of every visit, their last words are always, I don't know how you do it! I think that I earn a good salary - and I couldn't imagine being anything other than a teacher. That being said, I have put alot of time and money into my education and career and I feel entitled to be compensated for it, just as any professional should be.
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justthe4ofus
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Re: Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
Posted by jes81276
Posted by MrsRivera
Just as a general statement: Those in education will never *truly* understand what it takes to do a teacher's job every day. Sure, we have summers off...yes, we get snow days and school holidays. But no one will ever know how draining it is to be completely ON for 7 hours a day...to be responsible for 25 or more students at a time.
As far as salary, I don't think it's nearly enough...but we'll always hear people who think that teaching is "glorified babysitting"...which proves that they have no idea.
Very well put - anyone who thinks we are paid too much or have it easy can surely come and teach my 25 2nd graders for a day, then let me know how you feel. That is why I love having parents in my room, bc at the end of every visit, their last words are always, I don't know how you do it! I think that I earn a good salary - and I couldn't imagine being anything other than a teacher. That being said, I have put alot of time and money into my education and career and I feel entitled to be compensated for it, just as any professional should be.
I agree!! I love how this is one of the only professions that people feel they have the RIGHT to comment about the job we do- PERIOD!
As for the salary- I will be honest, for the amount of time I put in on a daily basis, the amount of money I have to lay out of my pocket for both classroom supplies and additional education, for the amount of time I have to 'volunteer' my time to drive back to my district (40 minutes away) to attend my student's events (if I don't want a bad evaluation), for the amount of time I have to take on other roles other than my job (parent, counselor, support system, nurse and whatever comes up that day) I am sorry I am NOT paid enough.
If teaching is sooooooooooo easy and teachers are so highly paid why is it more than 50% of teachers leave teaching in the first 5 years???
I have been in my district for 11 years. I will admit outside of my classroom I am turning into one of those teachers I didn't want to be. But to be honest, I will say I have had it with non educators telling me what is the best way to educate my students-- Can you imagine if I only having worked in a Pediatrician's office for 6 months walked into an ER and started telling the doctors how to treat their patients? But teachers have to deal with that on a daily basis!
Being with my students every day is priceless. I LOVE teaching and watching the lightbulbs go on when they 'get it' I love seeing their enthusiasm when they achieve something that they never thought they could.
But when I open my door and leave my classroom and walk through the hallways and get away from my babies I want to vomit!
But I am getting off my soapbox and going to bed now-- why because I have to be at work by 7:15 tomorrow to meet a student to work with him 1 on 1 in hopes of getting him to understand the material. He is LD and is so far behind the other kids that having him at extra help will not help him and between all of my meetings this week there was no other time after school I could meet up with him so now I will get up at the butt crack of dawn to get into school 50 minutes early-- off the clock as someone else pointed out, to help this child. Oh and please think of me as you enjoy your lunch hour and your down time, I don't know what that is because I use that time to also offer 'free' tutoring to my LD kids that are also off that period!
So while I make a decent salary I don't think I make ENOUGH--- and as long as I can't afford for either my husband or myself to be home with my daughter then it's not enough.
Sorry- obviously I had a bad day today.
ETA-- And while I am sure I sound very bitter- I am! I don't like the direction my district is heading and how they are treating their students. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to leave but unless other professions I can't. I would lose to much- sick days, senority and pay. Districts are only required to compensate you for up to 4 years experience. No district will put me on the same step that I am now when they can hire a new teacher for much less money. So once you have a certain amount of years in a district you are 'stuck' unlike other professions.
As to the comment about tenure- TENURE smenure!! New teacher's are under renewable licensing so their jobs are not 'safe' if they don't complete 175 hours of additional study every 5 years! I would gladly give up my tenure in a heart beat to be able to leave my district and go to a district that will compensate me and treat their students and their education with the importance that it truly is!!
Message edited 3/7/2007 10:38:10 PM.
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nyteacher13
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Re: Why do I always hear "teachers don't make any money?"
Posted by Jamie
Posted by jes81276
Posted by MrsRivera
Just as a general statement: Those in education will never *truly* understand what it takes to do a teacher's job every day. Sure, we have summers off...yes, we get snow days and school holidays. But no one will ever know how draining it is to be completely ON for 7 hours a day...to be responsible for 25 or more students at a time.
As far as salary, I don't think it's nearly enough...but we'll always hear people who think that teaching is "glorified babysitting"...which proves that they have no idea.
Very well put - anyone who thinks we are paid too much or have it easy can surely come and teach my 25 2nd graders for a day, then let me know how you feel. That is why I love having parents in my room, bc at the end of every visit, their last words are always, I don't know how you do it! I think that I earn a good salary - and I couldn't imagine being anything other than a teacher. That being said, I have put alot of time and money into my education and career and I feel entitled to be compensated for it, just as any professional should be.
I agree!! I love how this is one of the only professions that people feel they have the RIGHT to comment about the job we do- PERIOD!
As for the salary- I will be honest, for the amount of time I put in on a daily basis, the amount of money I have to lay out of my pocket for both classroom supplies and additional education, for the amount of time I have to 'volunteer' my time to drive back to my district (40 minutes away) to attend my student's events (if I don't want a bad evaluation), for the amount of time I have to take on other roles other than my job (parent, counselor, support system, nurse and whatever comes up that day) I am sorry I am NOT paid enough.
If teaching is sooooooooooo easy and teachers are so highly paid why is it more than 50% of teachers leave teaching in the first 5 years???
I have been in my district for 11 years. I will admit outside of my classroom I am turning into one of those teachers I didn't want to be. But to be honest, I will say I have had it with non educators telling me what is the best way to educate my students-- Can you imagine if I only having worked in a Pediatrician's office for 6 months walked into an ER and started telling the doctors how to treat their patients? But teachers have to deal with that on a daily basis!
Being with my students every day is priceless. I LOVE teaching and watching the lightbulbs go on when they 'get it' I love seeing their enthusiasm when they achieve something that they never thought they could.
But when I open my door and leave my classroom and walk through the hallways and get away from my babies I want to vomit!
But I am getting off my soapbox and going to bed now-- why because I have to be at work by 7:15 tomorrow to meet a student to work with him 1 on 1 in hopes of getting him to understand the material. He is LD and is so far behind the other kids that having him at extra help will not help him and between all of my meetings this week there was no other time after school I could meet up with him so now I will get up at the butt crack of dawn to get into school 50 minutes early-- off the clock as someone else pointed out, to help this child. Oh and please think of me as you enjoy your lunch hour and your down time, I don't know what that is because I use that time to also offer 'free' tutoring to my LD kids that are also off that period!
So while I make a decent salary I don't think I make ENOUGH--- and as long as I can't afford for either my husband or myself to be home with my daughter then it's not enough.
Sorry- obviously I had a bad day today.
ETA-- And while I am sure I sound very bitter- I am! I don't like the direction my district is heading and how they are treating their students. I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to leave but unless other professions I can't. I would lose to much- sick days, senority and pay. Districts are only required to compensate you for up to 4 years experience. No district will put me on the same step that I am now when they can hire a new teacher for much less money. So once you have a certain amount of years in a district you are 'stuck' unlike other professions.
As to the comment about tenure- TENURE smenure!! New teacher's are under renewable licensing so their jobs are not 'safe' if they don't complete 175 hours of additional study every 5 years! I would gladly give up my tenure in a heart beat to be able to leave my district and go to a district that will compensate me and treat their students and their education with the importance that it truly is!!
VERY well put!!! My sentiments EXACTLY!!!
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