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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by BabySammie

Posted by Summerrluvv

What difference would it make if someone had 17 adopted or 17 natural children?



one is adding more children into the world and another is taking in children who are already born with out a home.



Who cares? We don't live in China. Do we start telling people they can't use as much electricity or gas or water, have more than one car or buy gas guzzling SUVS because they are using up the natural resources? No.

Posted 5/9/08 12:21 PM
 
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by IrishTracy

I have to agree with Hbugal they are debt free & not living on welfare. I give them credit. Also can't believe it took them that long to come up with Jennifer. LOL) All the kids seem to be very happy. I went on their web-site. You have to see their house.
Duggar Family



I just saw went on their website and saw their house. Holy moly it's my dream home...Chat Icon

Posted 5/9/08 12:42 PM
 

Tah-wee-ZAH
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by Karebaby

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

I applaud them for living debt free and a simple lifestyle... that's a life lesson for their children that so many don't get, however, I can't help but think that something weird is going on.

I can't explain it in a post. I have a relative who has 8 children and I can draw some parallels to both situations.

BTW: I'd like to interview all 17 of their children 20 years from now... I think at least one of them is going to have some serious things to sayChat Icon

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in this family...


Sorry to sound like a moron but....
What do you mean?Chat Icon



They were spoken about on this board last year, I believe when she had #16.

It's been known that she cares for the baby until a certain age, I believe 1 or 2 years old, and then she turns over a lot of the daily responsibility of taking care of the toddler's needs to another one of her older children. She the she goes on and has another baby.

I grew up with many classmates that came from large families... 6 or 7, etc. and while all of them were expected to help out... chores, helping their younger brothers and sisters, etc. none of them were "assigned" the responsiblity of the complete, daily care of one of their toddler siblings. They all grew up to be very well adjusted adults with wonderful qualities, a direct result of them growing up in a large family.

I think something is going on with this woman and I believe it's the same situation with an estranged extended family member. In both cases, as soon as the child is not 100% dependent upon the mother (basically toddler stage... walking, self-feeding, ability to play alone) she no longer feels needed. She doesn't know how to live w/o having a baby to care for. For 2008, that strikes me as odd.

Our family member married a woman and had 8 kids. She was told after #3 (3 c-sections) that she would be putting her life and the child's life in jeopardy if she had more. Well, she had 5 more!! She nearly died with #4 and I think #6. She is such a risk that no ob-gyn in NJ will even touch her. I found out recently that the last 5 kids received no pre-natal care... she just walked into the emergency room and had themChat Icon I suspect, both she and Mrs. D, have a hard time dealing with life unless they have a tiny one to take care of.

In the case of our estranged family member, I've "heard" that the oldest three children are "angry teenagers" due to the amount of responsibility they have had, from such and early age, caring for their younger siblings. As a high school teacher, I know all too well, what angry kids turn to to copeChat Icon

My gut tells me that, in the future, when one or more of these kids, gets out and sees more of the "real world" outside of the way their family lives, one or more of them will reflect upon their experience growing up and have issues with it.

None of us come from "perfect" families and none of us are perfect but whenever I see this family my gut SCREAMS to me that something is just not entirely healthy about the situationChat Icon

Posted 5/9/08 12:46 PM
 

metsgirlie
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

Posted by Karebaby

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

I applaud them for living debt free and a simple lifestyle... that's a life lesson for their children that so many don't get, however, I can't help but think that something weird is going on.

I can't explain it in a post. I have a relative who has 8 children and I can draw some parallels to both situations.

BTW: I'd like to interview all 17 of their children 20 years from now... I think at least one of them is going to have some serious things to sayChat Icon

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in this family...


Sorry to sound like a moron but....
What do you mean?Chat Icon



They were spoken about on this board last year, I believe when she had #16.

It's been known that she cares for the baby until a certain age, I believe 1 or 2 years old, and then she turns over a lot of the daily responsibility of taking care of the toddler's needs to another one of her older children. She the she goes on and has another baby.

I grew up with many classmates that came from large families... 6 or 7, etc. and while all of them were expected to help out... chores, helping their younger brothers and sisters, etc. none of them were "assigned" the responsiblity of the complete, daily care of one of their toddler siblings. They all grew up to be very well adjusted adults with wonderful qualities, a direct result of them growing up in a large family.

I think something is going on with this woman and I believe it's the same situation with an estranged extended family member. In both cases, as soon as the child is not 100% dependent upon the mother (basically toddler stage... walking, self-feeding, ability to play alone) she no longer feels needed. She doesn't know how to live w/o having a baby to care for. For 2008, that strikes me as odd.

Our family member married a woman and had 8 kids. She was told after #3 (3 c-sections) that she would be putting her life and the child's life in jeopardy if she had more. Well, she had 5 more!! She nearly died with #4 and I think #6. She is such a risk that no ob-gyn in NJ will even touch her. I found out recently that the last 5 kids received no pre-natal care... she just walked into the emergency room and had themChat Icon I suspect, both she and Mrs. D, have a hard time dealing with life unless they have a tiny one to take care of.

In the case of our estranged family member, I've "heard" that the oldest three children are "angry teenagers" due to the amount of responsibility they have had, from such and early age, caring for their younger siblings. As a high school teacher, I know all too well, what angry kids turn to to copeChat Icon

My gut tells me that, in the future, when one or more of these kids, gets out and sees more of the "real world" outside of the way their family lives, one or more of them will reflect upon their experience growing up and have issues with it.

None of us come from "perfect" families and none of us are perfect but whenever I see this family my gut SCREAMS to me that something is just not entirely healthy about the situationChat Icon



I agree 100% with you. It is unfair for the children to have that much responsibility and chores to do. When are they allowed to just be kids. Some are going to rebel for sure.

Posted 5/9/08 12:52 PM
 

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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

Posted by Karebaby

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

I applaud them for living debt free and a simple lifestyle... that's a life lesson for their children that so many don't get, however, I can't help but think that something weird is going on.

I can't explain it in a post. I have a relative who has 8 children and I can draw some parallels to both situations.

BTW: I'd like to interview all 17 of their children 20 years from now... I think at least one of them is going to have some serious things to sayChat Icon

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in this family...


Sorry to sound like a moron but....
What do you mean?Chat Icon



They were spoken about on this board last year, I believe when she had #16.

It's been known that she cares for the baby until a certain age, I believe 1 or 2 years old, and then she turns over a lot of the daily responsibility of taking care of the toddler's needs to another one of her older children. She the she goes on and has another baby.

I grew up with many classmates that came from large families... 6 or 7, etc. and while all of them were expected to help out... chores, helping their younger brothers and sisters, etc. none of them were "assigned" the responsiblity of the complete, daily care of one of their toddler siblings. They all grew up to be very well adjusted adults with wonderful qualities, a direct result of them growing up in a large family.

I think something is going on with this woman and I believe it's the same situation with an estranged extended family member. In both cases, as soon as the child is not 100% dependent upon the mother (basically toddler stage... walking, self-feeding, ability to play alone) she no longer feels needed. She doesn't know how to live w/o having a baby to care for. For 2008, that strikes me as odd.

Our family member married a woman and had 8 kids. She was told after #3 (3 c-sections) that she would be putting her life and the child's life in jeopardy if she had more. Well, she had 5 more!! She nearly died with #4 and I think #6. She is such a risk that no ob-gyn in NJ will even touch her. I found out recently that the last 5 kids received no pre-natal care... she just walked into the emergency room and had themChat Icon I suspect, both she and Mrs. D, have a hard time dealing with life unless they have a tiny one to take care of.

In the case of our estranged family member, I've "heard" that the oldest three children are "angry teenagers" due to the amount of responsibility they have had, from such and early age, caring for their younger siblings. As a high school teacher, I know all too well, what angry kids turn to to copeChat Icon

My gut tells me that, in the future, when one or more of these kids, gets out and sees more of the "real world" outside of the way their family lives, one or more of them will reflect upon their experience growing up and have issues with it.

None of us come from "perfect" families and none of us are perfect but whenever I see this family my gut SCREAMS to me that something is just not entirely healthy about the situationChat Icon


Okay, gotcha. Chat Icon
I have only heard about them, I have never watched one of the shows, so I didn't know any of that.

Posted 5/9/08 12:55 PM
 

2BEANS
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by BabySammie

Posted by Summerrluvv

What difference would it make if someone had 17 adopted or 17 natural children?



one is adding more children into the world and another is taking in children who are already born with out a home.



Who cares? We don't live in China. Do we start telling people they can't use as much electricity or gas or water, have more than one car or buy gas guzzling SUVS because they are using up the natural resources? No.



Your really taking my statement out of context. I said in my first statement "
Posted by BabySammie

The only thing that bothers me about having that many kids.. is the fact that we are running out of natural resources.

Its their own business and can have as many kids as they want but just makes me think imagine everyone having 17 children.. The world is over populated as it is.



I said it bothers me.. did not say they shouldnt have anymore kids, i could care less how many kids anyone has. I just worry about the natural resources. Yes i worry about what my future blood line will have to deal with... is that so wrong. Its my opinion as you have yours.


Posted 5/9/08 1:04 PM
 

EmmaNick
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by BabySammie

Posted by Summerrluvv

Posted by BabySammie

Posted by Summerrluvv

What difference would it make if someone had 17 adopted or 17 natural children?



one is adding more children into the world and another is taking in children who are already born with out a home.



Who cares? We don't live in China. Do we start telling people they can't use as much electricity or gas or water, have more than one car or buy gas guzzling SUVS because they are using up the natural resources? No.



Your really taking my statement out of context. I said in my first statement "
Posted by BabySammie

The only thing that bothers me about having that many kids.. is the fact that we are running out of natural resources.

Its their own business and can have as many kids as they want but just makes me think imagine everyone having 17 children.. The world is over populated as it is.



I said it bothers me.. did not say they shouldnt have anymore kids, i could care less how many kids anyone has. I just worry about the natural resources. Yes i worry about what my future blood line will have to deal with... is that so wrong. Its my opinion as you have yours.





I don't really think I took anything out of context since your main concern was using up the natural resources. I think there are bigger concerns than a family having 17 children when it comes to natural resources. I guess we'll agree to disagree though Chat Icon

Posted 5/9/08 1:25 PM
 

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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

Posted by Karebaby

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

I applaud them for living debt free and a simple lifestyle... that's a life lesson for their children that so many don't get, however, I can't help but think that something weird is going on.

I can't explain it in a post. I have a relative who has 8 children and I can draw some parallels to both situations.

BTW: I'd like to interview all 17 of their children 20 years from now... I think at least one of them is going to have some serious things to sayChat Icon

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in this family...


Sorry to sound like a moron but....
What do you mean?Chat Icon



They were spoken about on this board last year, I believe when she had #16.

It's been known that she cares for the baby until a certain age, I believe 1 or 2 years old, and then she turns over a lot of the daily responsibility of taking care of the toddler's needs to another one of her older children. She the she goes on and has another baby.

I grew up with many classmates that came from large families... 6 or 7, etc. and while all of them were expected to help out... chores, helping their younger brothers and sisters, etc. none of them were "assigned" the responsiblity of the complete, daily care of one of their toddler siblings. They all grew up to be very well adjusted adults with wonderful qualities, a direct result of them growing up in a large family.

I think something is going on with this woman and I believe it's the same situation with an estranged extended family member. In both cases, as soon as the child is not 100% dependent upon the mother (basically toddler stage... walking, self-feeding, ability to play alone) she no longer feels needed. She doesn't know how to live w/o having a baby to care for. For 2008, that strikes me as odd.

Our family member married a woman and had 8 kids. She was told after #3 (3 c-sections) that she would be putting her life and the child's life in jeopardy if she had more. Well, she had 5 more!! She nearly died with #4 and I think #6. She is such a risk that no ob-gyn in NJ will even touch her. I found out recently that the last 5 kids received no pre-natal care... she just walked into the emergency room and had themChat Icon I suspect, both she and Mrs. D, have a hard time dealing with life unless they have a tiny one to take care of.

In the case of our estranged family member, I've "heard" that the oldest three children are "angry teenagers" due to the amount of responsibility they have had, from such and early age, caring for their younger siblings. As a high school teacher, I know all too well, what angry kids turn to to copeChat Icon

My gut tells me that, in the future, when one or more of these kids, gets out and sees more of the "real world" outside of the way their family lives, one or more of them will reflect upon their experience growing up and have issues with it.

None of us come from "perfect" families and none of us are perfect but whenever I see this family my gut SCREAMS to me that something is just not entirely healthy about the situationChat Icon



Agree 100%. I also agree with BabySammie. Just an opinion, I'm not saying we should impose laws against more children or there shoudl be a limit to how many are appropriate, but seriously, no one needs 17 kids.

There is a big difference between a large family of say 9 kids, and 17. I knew people from large families too, and they were fine, but 17 is huge. The idea that older children have complete responsibility for younger siblings bothers me also. It's fine to ask them to help out and do chores, but that much work is too much for a child.

Posted 5/9/08 1:52 PM
 

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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

There's more children in this family than there are in my 1st grade class!! Chat Icon

Posted 5/9/08 5:50 PM
 

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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

They must do something really good. OH MY I looked at there house. They definitely make some bucks and I imagine they have hired help or they are all just really good about staying on top of things and doing there chores. WOW

Message edited 5/9/2008 11:25:33 PM.

Posted 5/9/08 6:58 PM
 

Liz-LIFamilies
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Message edited 5/9/2008 7:03:41 PM.

Posted 5/9/08 7:01 PM
 

CkGm
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

Posted by metsgirlie

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

Posted by Karebaby

Posted by Tah-wee-ZAH

I applaud them for living debt free and a simple lifestyle... that's a life lesson for their children that so many don't get, however, I can't help but think that something weird is going on.

I can't explain it in a post. I have a relative who has 8 children and I can draw some parallels to both situations.

BTW: I'd like to interview all 17 of their children 20 years from now... I think at least one of them is going to have some serious things to sayChat Icon

I'm just waiting for the other shoe to drop in this family...


Sorry to sound like a moron but....
What do you mean?Chat Icon



They were spoken about on this board last year, I believe when she had #16.

It's been known that she cares for the baby until a certain age, I believe 1 or 2 years old, and then she turns over a lot of the daily responsibility of taking care of the toddler's needs to another one of her older children. She the she goes on and has another baby.

I grew up with many classmates that came from large families... 6 or 7, etc. and while all of them were expected to help out... chores, helping their younger brothers and sisters, etc. none of them were "assigned" the responsiblity of the complete, daily care of one of their toddler siblings. They all grew up to be very well adjusted adults with wonderful qualities, a direct result of them growing up in a large family.

I think something is going on with this woman and I believe it's the same situation with an estranged extended family member. In both cases, as soon as the child is not 100% dependent upon the mother (basically toddler stage... walking, self-feeding, ability to play alone) she no longer feels needed. She doesn't know how to live w/o having a baby to care for. For 2008, that strikes me as odd.

Our family member married a woman and had 8 kids. She was told after #3 (3 c-sections) that she would be putting her life and the child's life in jeopardy if she had more. Well, she had 5 more!! She nearly died with #4 and I think #6. She is such a risk that no ob-gyn in NJ will even touch her. I found out recently that the last 5 kids received no pre-natal care... she just walked into the emergency room and had themChat Icon I suspect, both she and Mrs. D, have a hard time dealing with life unless they have a tiny one to take care of.

In the case of our estranged family member, I've "heard" that the oldest three children are "angry teenagers" due to the amount of responsibility they have had, from such and early age, caring for their younger siblings. As a high school teacher, I know all too well, what angry kids turn to to copeChat Icon

My gut tells me that, in the future, when one or more of these kids, gets out and sees more of the "real world" outside of the way their family lives, one or more of them will reflect upon their experience growing up and have issues with it.

None of us come from "perfect" families and none of us are perfect but whenever I see this family my gut SCREAMS to me that something is just not entirely healthy about the situationChat Icon



I agree 100% with you. It is unfair for the children to have that much responsibility and chores to do. When are they allowed to just be kids. Some are going to rebel for sure.



Agree as well. Especially the part where the mom has a void to fill...

Posted 5/9/08 7:16 PM
 

DandN
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Re: 17 kids and 1 more on the way!!!!

I completely agree with Theresa's post.

Posted 5/9/08 8:22 PM
 
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