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Raging2020
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All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Follow the money.
Whose making money on the vaccines? Whose making money on testing?
This is all about money at this point.
I’ve always thought there should be a ‘cure’ for cancer or more progress but it’s true….these companies make more money keeping people sick. Healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.
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Posted 9/9/21 9:37 PM |
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Raging2020
Follow the money.
Whose making money on the vaccines? Whose making money on testing?
This is all about money at this point.
I’ve always thought there should be a ‘cure’ for cancer or more progress but it’s true….these companies make more money keeping people sick. Healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.
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Posted 9/9/21 9:40 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by MrsA1012
Horrifying , illegal executive overreach. Anyone who cares about the constitution should be up in arms. Plenty of people will be seeing him I Court.
Yes but that will take awhile and by then it will be too late. Most people do not have the luxury of surviving being unemployed. For me, I have a family to support and need to make some tough decisions. This vile lunatic just took away everything for no discernible reason. Well…at least people will take a break from talking about Afghanistan and how he murdered Americans and takes orders from terrorists.
Honestly just say fuk them and do the weekly testing if it comes to that. They are clearly doing this to force vaccines. I'd test daily if I had to. I wouldn't give in. You want my pap smear results too? Have at it.
Message edited 9/9/2021 9:43:21 PM.
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Posted 9/9/21 9:42 PM |
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by jellybean78
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by JennP
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Posted by NervousNell
Push back on Staying home? Almost 2 years later. You expect people to not push back on still staying home? Are you still staying home?
No, I'm not still staying home. I'm vaccinated and living my life while still taking common sense precautions - washing my hands, masking while in crowded indoor places, etc.
I'm talking about the people who push back on everything or most things.
For example, I know someone who is adamant about not being vaccinated but she is still minimizing going out and wearing a mask when she does. She is considerate of others and trying to stop the spread. No problem.
I'm talking about the people who don't want to do ANYTHING to make this better. No masks, no staying home, no vaccine, etc. There are a few people on here - I won't name them, they know who they are - but I am speaking in general. Those people sound so foolish. Grow up and at least try to be part of the solution.
Most people have been doing the things for 19 months...stay home, wash hands, mask up, social distance, vaccinated and yet here we are at the point where people are losing their jobs for not wanting to inject themselves with a shot that doesn't even work.
Vaccines have been rolled out for months and 70% of the population is vaccinated yet the virus is still here, infecting the vaccinated and unvaccinated alike yet the government thinks the end to this is mandating more vaccinations. It's absolutely about control.
Our government and health officials are all over the place on this pandemic. They say one thing and then another happens...how are people supposed to trust them?? The Biden administration a few months ago said that they would not be mandating the vaccine because that should not be something the federal government should be doing yet here we are.
For some people, including federal employees now, testing is not an option. One of my friends pushed back so hard, she was willing to get tested and her job said no, jab or leave...how is that a choice?? How is that OK?
Your post doesn't address what I wrote, but whatever, I don't think a back and forth is worth it. I stand by my statement - if you (general you) aren't willing to do ANYTHING to make this stop for the greater good, you're a jerk.
The vaccine does work. Perhaps not as well against the Delta variant, but it's clearly preventing death and long haul symptoms in the large majority of people who get it. There is also evidence that it reduces transmission - no, it doesn't eliminate it, but no one ever said it would. If every adult got vaccinated, then we could probably all get back to normal because then most people's symptoms would be mild and it would more closely resemble a "typical" virus. That's obviously not going to happen so the LEAST people can do is put on a mask but no, you have people yelling and cursing at teenagers at school board meetings because people might have to put a piece of cloth over their face (gasp!)
Our selfishness as a society will be the end of us for sure.
80% of people, at least on LI have at least 1 shot. They have proven a mask does not work.
Again, why do you think people who are unvaccinated will all get sick?
Exactly! You have a high percentage of people who are vaccinated and a good majority of people wearing masks yet here we are, 19 months later still in the same position. Either the COVID prevention measures are not effective or this virus is being used to control people. Either way people are applying their critical thinking skills to all of this and questioning these mandates as they absolutely should be.
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Posted 9/9/21 9:45 PM |
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Raging2020
Follow the money.
Whose making money on the vaccines? Whose making money on testing?
This is all about money at this point.
I’ve always thought there should be a ‘cure’ for cancer or more progress but it’s true….these companies make more money keeping people sick. Healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.
There will NEVER be a cure for cancer. There is TOO much money to keep people sick.
I have said over and over, follow the money.
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Posted 9/9/21 9:46 PM |
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by ChilisWife
Posted by MrsA1012
Horrifying , illegal executive overreach. Anyone who cares about the constitution should be up in arms. Plenty of people will be seeing him I Court.
Yes but that will take awhile and by then it will be too late. Most people do not have the luxury of surviving being unemployed. For me, I have a family to support and need to make some tough decisions. This vile lunatic just took away everything for no discernible reason. Well…at least people will take a break from talking about Afghanistan and how he murdered Americans and takes orders from terrorists.
Honestly just say fuk them and do the weekly testing if it comes to that. They are clearly doing this to force vaccines. I'd test daily if I had to. I wouldn't give in. You want my pap smear results too? Have at it.
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Posted 9/9/21 9:47 PM |
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itsbabytime
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
I’m just wondering, does anyone think Biden is doing a good job as President?
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Posted 9/9/21 10:02 PM |
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by itsbabytime
I’m just wondering, does anyone think Biden is doing a good job as President?
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Posted 9/9/21 10:19 PM |
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soontobemommyof2
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Raging2020
Follow the money.
Whose making money on the vaccines? Whose making money on testing?
This is all about money at this point.
I’ve always thought there should be a ‘cure’ for cancer or more progress but it’s true….these companies make more money keeping people sick. Healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.
Yeap. Let’s not forget these pharmaceutical companies are the same exact ones that make other vaccines. That should be a clue right there. Well Moderna is a newbie cause this is their first “vaccine”. I love when Biden said today...”vaccines” are free.... Sure they are .
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Posted 9/9/21 10:49 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by soontobemommyof2
Posted by Raging2020
Follow the money.
Whose making money on the vaccines? Whose making money on testing?
This is all about money at this point.
I’ve always thought there should be a ‘cure’ for cancer or more progress but it’s true….these companies make more money keeping people sick. Healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.
Yeap. Let’s not forget these pharmaceutical companies are the same exact ones that make other vaccines. That should be a clue right there. Well Moderna is a newbie cause this is their first “vaccine”. I love when Biden said today...”vaccines” are free.... Sure they are .
Yes, you didn't know? The pharmaceutical companies all operate as charities. It's great. Such selfless philanthropists.
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Posted 9/9/21 10:58 PM |
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Mrs213
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All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Fox news is already requiring this
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Posted 9/9/21 11:04 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Mrs213
Fox news is already requiring this
Lots of companies are.. And that's their right. But once again forcing private companies to require it is the issue
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Posted 9/9/21 11:15 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Administration officials acknowledged the requirement for large employers could be challenged in court. But they said their hope was to provide cover of federal rules to businesses who want to require vaccines for employees.
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Posted 9/9/21 11:18 PM |
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RainyDay
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by BargainMama
Testing or vaccine. Why do people have a problem being tested? He said the rapid antigen is acceptable and you can do it at home.
The rapids are unreliable so it's completely pointless.
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Posted 9/10/21 7:18 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by RainyDay
Posted by BargainMama
Testing or vaccine. Why do people have a problem being tested? He said the rapid antigen is acceptable and you can do it at home.
The rapids are unreliable so it's completely pointless.
Something that doesn't make sense logically? No way!
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Posted 9/10/21 7:21 AM |
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Diane
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Raging2020
Follow the money.
Whose making money on the vaccines? Whose making money on testing?
This is all about money at this point.
I’ve always thought there should be a ‘cure’ for cancer or more progress but it’s true….these companies make more money keeping people sick. Healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.
There will NEVER be a cure for cancer. There is TOO much money to keep people sick.
I have said over and over, follow the money.
Exactly, there probably is a cure, but think of how many doctors and pharmaceutical companies would go out of business.
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Posted 9/10/21 7:39 AM |
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BFNY516
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by itsbabytime
I’m just wondering, does anyone think Biden is doing a good job as President?
I think he was too premature in saying we were well on our way to defeating this back in late June/early July. I think the general message to whip off your mask and wave it up in the air and celebrate was too early.
But leaders are supposed to lead in difficult times, even if people don’t like it.
I still don’t think people fully grasp what’s happened. Maybe once it’s written in the history books, people will reflect more on it differently.
660k people dead, distrust of the media and the government, there’s a vaccine from the same people who churn out meds that everyone takes without question and people chose to take ... farm animal medicine.
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Posted 9/10/21 7:46 AM |
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BFNY516
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by Diane
Posted by windyweather21
Posted by Raging2020
Follow the money.
Whose making money on the vaccines? Whose making money on testing?
This is all about money at this point.
I’ve always thought there should be a ‘cure’ for cancer or more progress but it’s true….these companies make more money keeping people sick. Healthy people don’t make pharmaceutical companies money.
There will NEVER be a cure for cancer. There is TOO much money to keep people sick.
I have said over and over, follow the money.
Exactly, there probably is a cure, but think of how many doctors and pharmaceutical companies would go out of business.
If there was a cure for cancer it would be more profitable than keeping it a secret.
Cancer survival rates have also doubled in the last 40 years thanks to science.
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Posted 9/10/21 7:52 AM |
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PhyllisNJoe
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
One of our employees put their 2 weeks in for a work from home job for a major medical company. They require not only a physical but also that you are vaccinated. My only guess is because of health Insurance? I asked the employee and they have no clue and didn’t think to even ask because they are already vaccinated.
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Posted 9/10/21 7:57 AM |
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BFNY516
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
One of our employees put their 2 weeks in for a work from home job for a major medical company. They require not only a physical but also that you are vaccinated. My only guess is because of health Insurance? I asked the employee and they have no clue and didn’t think to even ask because they are already vaccinated.
From what I’ve read, that’s part of the push for bigger companies. The health insurance doesn’t want to keep paying for the unvaccinated and the risk ratio is too high.
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Posted 9/10/21 8:00 AM |
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MrsA1012
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All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
This virus is endemic. It will never go away. This vaccine doesn’t offer sterilizing immunity. It only offers personal protection. Israel is proof of this with close to 90 percent of the population vaccinated and continued outbreaks. These are facts , not opinions. This makes mandates all the more insane.
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Posted 9/10/21 8:03 AM |
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NervousNell
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
One of our employees put their 2 weeks in for a work from home job for a major medical company. They require not only a physical but also that you are vaccinated. My only guess is because of health Insurance? I asked the employee and they have no clue and didn’t think to even ask because they are already vaccinated.
From what I’ve read, that’s part of the push for bigger companies. The health insurance doesn’t want to keep paying for the unvaccinated and the risk ratio is too high.
I don't take my company's health insurance. So does that make me exempt from this?
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Posted 9/10/21 8:06 AM |
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BFNY516
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by NervousNell
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by PhyllisNJoe
One of our employees put their 2 weeks in for a work from home job for a major medical company. They require not only a physical but also that you are vaccinated. My only guess is because of health Insurance? I asked the employee and they have no clue and didn’t think to even ask because they are already vaccinated.
From what I’ve read, that’s part of the push for bigger companies. The health insurance doesn’t want to keep paying for the unvaccinated and the risk ratio is too high.
I don't take my company's health insurance. So does that make me exempt from this?
That’s a good question. I’d be curious to know too.
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Posted 9/10/21 8:10 AM |
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MrsA1012
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Re: All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by itsbabytime
I’m just wondering, does anyone think Biden is doing a good job as President?
I think he was too premature in saying we were well on our way to defeating this back in late June/early July. I think the general message to whip off your mask and wave it up in the air and celebrate was too early.
But leaders are supposed to lead in difficult times, even if people don’t like it.
I still don’t think people fully grasp what’s happened. Maybe once it’s written in the history books, people will reflect more on it differently.
660k people dead., distrust of the media and the government, there’s a vaccine from the same people who churn out meds that everyone takes without question and people chose to take ... farm animal medicine.
. This isn’t so. Please research the concept of endemicity. This virus exists in animal reservoirs. The vaccine doesn’t provide sterilizing immunity. The vaccinated can get and spread it. Further , it’s completely reasonable for those at a very low risk from covid to decline an experimental pharmaceutical with no long term safety profile and many alarming reports of short term side effects. Especially as many of us have had covid and recovered just fine and have long lasting natural immunity. What would be reasonable, is to encourage the high risk individuals who haven’t gotten vaccinated to do so for personal protection. Without coercion , of course. Also , when people cite the mortality number understand that 50 Percent of those dead were nursing home residents and the average age of death was 80. That’s sad , but it’s also dishonest not to frame deaths in the context they occurred : very old and/ or very sick people.
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Posted 9/10/21 8:12 AM |
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BFNY516
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All employers with 100+ must require vax or weekly tests
MrsA - I don’t want to quote because I know the boxes get too long. I somewhat agree with endemicity. I do think science is fluid and I can see where covid wipes people out and then becomes like a common cold one day. I know what you mean about the older people, but it’s still worrisome to me at least. I rather have older folks pass away from regular old age and not this horrible virus. Not saying you do, obviously, but it seems like such a brutal way to go.
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Posted 9/10/21 8:27 AM |
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