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Ang-Rich
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by Janice
It is okay, I don't know if I am jealous, but yes, I do enjoy checking out diaper bags.
I like checking out shoes!  
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johnsae
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by HeathKernandez
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Posted by Palebride
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Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
That's not fair.....
I might not agree with someone, but an attack like that isn't necessary
Yeah, that's just mean.
Janice is a good egg!
LIF can really be screwed up. I'm not that familiar with Janice, but what I am familiar with is my need to express my opinion. I didn't agree with her. Period.
you have a very 'interesting' way of expressing your opinion... them be daggers spewed from your mouth.
Thanks!
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:51 PM |
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Palebride
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by johnsae
LIF can really be screwed up. I'm not that familiar with Janice, but what I am familiar with is my need to express my opinion. I didn't agree with her. Period.
I agree that LIF can be screwed up....but Janice has been posting for ages, and is definitely very strong in her opinions. She has a clear way she is raising her children, and she is open to sharing that with others. But I rarely find her judgmental....even though we have totally different parenting styles!
You don't have to agree with her, and you can tell her that....I'm pretty sure she'll be ok with it. But what you wrote was mean, and intentionally hurtful! That's not necessary.
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:51 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by Palebride
Posted by johnsae
LIF can really be screwed up. I'm not that familiar with Janice, but what I am familiar with is my need to express my opinion. I didn't agree with her. Period.
I agree that LIF can be screwed up....but Janice has been posting for ages, and is definitely very strong in her opinions. She has a clear way she is raising her children, and she is open to sharing that with others. But I rarely find her judgmental....even though we have totally different parenting styles!
You don't have to agree with her, and you can tell her that....I'm pretty sure she'll be ok with it. But what you wrote was mean, and intentionally hurtful! That's not necessary.
Well, that's my way. Like you said, she has her way. My intention isn't to get nasty....I like having debates, which is definitely why I am a member of LIF!
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:53 PM |
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
5 days. The baby was 5 days.
Great job on the nose-picking, that's awesome.
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:54 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by colette
Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
5 days. The baby was 5 days.
Great job on the nose-picking, that's awesome.
5 days is even better!
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:55 PM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by Palebride
Posted by MaMaTeenie
. IMO what turns an adult conversation ugly is sarcasm (amoung other things).
What turns an adult conversation ugly is judging other people's parenting decisions and calling them "pathetic".
What turns an adult conversation ugly is taking a 5 second glimpse into someone's life and deciding you know what is going on.
Sarcasm makes things funny.
Sarcasm CAN be funny, heck I come from a long line of ball busters and can lay it down with the best of em, but I didn't see the humor there. I wasn't using anything other than my eyeballs to read what the OP wrote and give my opinion. Ack, whatever....I have to stop reading this damnn thread and eat some dinner I'm STARVING and just got everyone to bed. Gotta get ready for Housewives too....so much to do. Nighty night!
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:55 PM |
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LightUpOurLife
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Every year, more than half a million women die in pregnancy or childbirth. That is what I think of when I read stuff like this. Maybe this woman is more than necessary, unlike the judging by many in this post.
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:56 PM |
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Janice
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
To Alicia:
I am in no way Superwoman. I try my hardest. I am an overbearing mother. That is my crime.
I think you are a great mom. You really seem to enjoy your daughter and your life. I agree with you on a ton of your posts.
that's it.
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:57 PM |
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MaMaTeenie
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
See Sarcasm. Ugly, very ugly! I rest my case.
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| Posted 6/24/10 8:59 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by Janice
To Alicia:
I am in no way Superwoman. I try my hardest. I am an overbearing mother. That is my crime.
I think you are a great mom. You really seem to enjoy your daughter and your life. I agree with you on a ton of your posts.
that's it.
Ok, cool. I am in no way want issues. At least we'll remember each other after this debacle!
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:00 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
See Sarcasm. Ugly, very ugly! I rest my case.
I am a very sarcastic person. You aren't. I'm fine with that.
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:00 PM |
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Janice
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by johnsae
Posted by Janice
To Alicia:
I am in no way Superwoman. I try my hardest. I am an overbearing mother. That is my crime.
I think you are a great mom. You really seem to enjoy your daughter and your life. I agree with you on a ton of your posts.
that's it.
Ok, cool. I am in no way want issues. At least we'll remember each other after this debacle!
I do always remember you.
You gave me a great piece of advice I live by...sahms were posting how they tend to look a mess at times around the house, you posted about having to try harder around dh when he is home. Totally read that and it clicked. From then on, always completely dressed when dh is home.
i think you have a lot to offer.
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:03 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
See Sarcasm. Ugly, very ugly! I rest my case.
sarcasm is meant to be funny. The above, .... not so much 
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:03 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by HeathKernandez
Posted by MaMaTeenie
Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
See Sarcasm. Ugly, very ugly! I rest my case.
sarcasm is meant to be funny. The above, .... not so much
ok, ok, the drama was almost coming to an end.
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:04 PM |
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by colette
Posted by johnsae
To Janice....congratulations on being at Church with your baby when your son was 5 weeks old. That's awesome, really. And you were in classes 7 days after a c-section WITH your child? Unbelievable!!!! Are you Super Woman? I wish I could be like you!!!
I picked my nose by myself after a C-Section when DD was 1 day old! I didn't think I could do it, but I have learned that a new mom can accomplish absolutely anything without any help if we put our minds to it!
You would take a look at the outfit the kid was wearing and diaper bag that was being used? I'm no expert but your posts scream JEALOUSY!!!!!!!
5 days. The baby was 5 days.
Great job on the nose-picking, that's awesome.
DREAM BIG!!!!
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:04 PM |
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johnsae
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by Janice
Posted by johnsae
Posted by Janice
To Alicia:
I am in no way Superwoman. I try my hardest. I am an overbearing mother. That is my crime.
I think you are a great mom. You really seem to enjoy your daughter and your life. I agree with you on a ton of your posts.
that's it.
Ok, cool. I am in no way want issues. At least we'll remember each other after this debacle!
I do always remember you.
You gave me a great piece of advice I live by...sahms were posting how they tend to look a mess at times around the house, you posted about having to try harder around dh when he is home. Totally read that and it clicked. From then on, always completely dressed when dh is home.
i think you have a lot to offer.
yes, and embarrassingly I don't even live by that advice sometimes. It's hard being a SAHM!
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HeathKernandez
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
If I saw something like this... all I would think is... "I'm in Central Park..."
so it wouldn't surprise me. Not a life I am accustomed to, and probably never would. As long as the 'nanny' wasn't BEATING the child, who caaaaares.
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:06 PM |
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kimbalina
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by computergirl
I saw something in Central Park on Saturday that I was a little taken aback by.
There was a nanny holding a baby, sitting on a bench. The baby was sooooo teeny tiny, I asked how old he was. He was less than two weeks. And there he was with a nanny, on a beautiful Saturday morning.
As much as I want to give the parents the benefit of the doubt, I thought that was pretty pathetic.
One day... I hope I am just as pathetic to send out my Nanny with the baby, while I sip wine and get a mani / pedi. 
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:06 PM |
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eddiesmommy
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by Palebride
Posted by MaMaTeenie
. IMO what turns an adult conversation ugly is sarcasm (amoung other things).
What turns an adult conversation ugly is judging other people's parenting decisions and calling them "pathetic".
What turns an adult conversation ugly is taking a 5 second glimpse into someone's life and deciding you know what is going on.
Sarcasm makes things funny.
agreed!
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:10 PM |
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mrswask
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
If nothing else, what pisses me off the most about the original post is the assumption that the woman, being a different race than the child, is the nanny. Like some said, adoptive parent, interracial marriage, step-parent. One of my closest friends is Jamaican and black. She is a sister to me and you know what, cares about my son more than his paternal grandparents do. If she was out with my newborn, it would have been because she was giving me a well-needed break or watching him while I went to one of the many dr's appts I had post C-section.
Sad that she would have been viewed as the nanny and I would have been viewed as pathetic
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| Posted 6/24/10 9:11 PM |
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Ladybug3
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Could have been a baby nurse...I had one when DS was born. I'm extremely anal and I spent almost every second with my baby and the nurse but most people I know take time to themselves to sleep, recover when they have the nurse. I felt guilty leaving my NB son with the nurse when I was planning his bris but I had to do what I had to do...To each his own...
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jerseypanda
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Posted by computergirl
Posted by eddiesmommy
not to mention, just bc you did, doesnt mean everyone has this instant connection, this need to be with their newborn all of the time, this need to bond. Some of us have harder times with it and need to slowly come around and adjust. I think its SO judgmental to call someone you dont know and their situation pathetic when you dont know the details. Sorry, youve hit a nerve with me.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean to hit a nerve. I admitted it was judgmental of me, but let's face it, we all see things (not kinowing the whole backstory) everyday and make snap judgments. It's human nature.
I'm sure I do things as a mom every day that other people might look at disdainfully. And that's ok too. I was just offering my sole opinion on something I saw. It's good to see different takes on it that I didn't initially think of (like a tough c-sec recovery) but definitely don't want to start drama or anything.
It is this comment from the OP that I find the most interesting. Here she started a post that was a bit judgemental and used language that was a bit strong (pathetic)
Yet after reading some of the replies to her post and seeing the situation from a different perspective, she admits that she might have been judgemental, apologizes, and says she didn't mean to start drama.
I think it is sad that it seems this comment from her has been overlooked by a lot of people. It's almost like people just read the original post, don't look further down to see what all the replies are and continue to jump on that first post, even though the OP changed her mind further down in the thread.
To the OP, I can appreciate that you have a mind open enough to see the situation from other point of views!
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maybesoon
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
WOW why would you say that was pathetic? II feel like I'm misunderstanding your post bc it seems so off the wall
Message edited 6/24/2010 10:42:00 PM.
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| Posted 6/24/10 10:30 PM |
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Michelle1123
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Re: Another "not to judge"....
Wow....just...WOW
There is really nothing I can say that hasnt been said already.
I just wish that since we are all moms here, it would cause us to be more understanding and supportive of other moms, both online and in real life.
It's actually quite disappointing.
Sometimes I'm scared I will come across a post on here about me, without the poster realizing I'm actually a member.
ETA: I was back at work doing photoshoots when DD was 2 weeks old. And I had a c/s. If it wasnt a winter month, my caregiver would have taken the baby out as well. Does that make me pathetic as well?
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