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evenedan
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Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
Is this standard procedure? I have a second interview tomorrow, this one with the company's HR department and I was asked to bring a current pay stub. This position has the potential to pay much more than I'm currently making. Is bringing my stub going to seriously reduce the offer? What is the best way to handle this?
This job comes along with a lot more stress and longer hours and I'm only taking it for $$$$.
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Posted 3/19/08 9:30 PM |
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DaniJude
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
i'm not familiar with this so i'm sorry i can't offer help but that just sounds so strange to me - how is it ANY of their business what you are currently making? are they even allowed to ask you that?? that would really rub me the wrong way.
hopefully someone who knows more about this can shed some light on this for you - and me!
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Posted 3/19/08 9:37 PM |
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evenedan
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
Posted by DaniRella
i'm not familiar with this so i'm sorry i can't offer help but that just sounds so strange to me - how is it ANY of their business what you are currently making? are they even allowed to ask you that?? that would really rub me the wrong way.
hopefully someone who knows more about this can shed some light on this for you - and me!
That was my initial thought! I'm sitting here all annoyed about it. But I haven't interviewed in seven years, so I don't know if it's common practice or not.
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Posted 3/19/08 9:39 PM |
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DaniJude
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
Posted by evenedan
Posted by DaniRella
i'm not familiar with this so i'm sorry i can't offer help but that just sounds so strange to me - how is it ANY of their business what you are currently making? are they even allowed to ask you that?? that would really rub me the wrong way.
hopefully someone who knows more about this can shed some light on this for you - and me!
That was my initial thought! I'm sitting here all annoyed about it. But I haven't interviewed in seven years, so I don't know if it's common practice or not.
it would make me think that all they are trying to do is see what you are currently making so that they can offer you like A DOLLAR more
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Posted 3/19/08 10:00 PM |
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VickiC
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
They are trying to see if you are lying about what salary you are making now if you had to list that on your cover letter or something like that. I've heard of it being done before. It's grounds to not hire you if you are lying.
ETA: I'm not in HR - I've just heard of this being done before is all.
Message edited 3/19/2008 10:04:04 PM.
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Posted 3/19/08 10:03 PM |
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june262004
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
Posted by VickiC
They are trying to see if you are lying about what salary you are making now if you had to list that on your cover letter or something like that. I've heard of it being done before. It's grounds to not hire you if you are lying.
ETA: I'm not in HR - I've just heard of this being done before is all.
ditto
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Posted 3/19/08 10:05 PM |
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evenedan
Need a little sunshine
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
Just to clarify: I never stated what I am currently making and we haven't gotten to any salary negotiations yet.
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Posted 3/19/08 10:09 PM |
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Blu-ize
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
I've been asked to provide my w2 before being offered a job. Maybe they want to do this ahead so they can make a decision quickly.
I still think it's a bit odd.
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Posted 3/20/08 8:52 AM |
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fins
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
A lot of companies do this now. They use it with salary negotiation because many people verbally inflate their incomes.
When it is time for salary negotiation, make sure to sell yourself and why this job requires more of your time, energy, more responsibilities. etc.
I work in finance, but we require commission statements, W2s, as well as run a credit report and background check.
Message edited 3/20/2008 9:02:11 AM.
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Posted 3/20/08 9:01 AM |
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yankinmanc
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
I work in recruitment (although in the UK) and a pay stub is something that we often ask candidates to bring along for identification of a NI number (like a SS number) and tax details. Also, we use this in connection with the ID that they bring as we recruit for a lot of call centres and the person showing up isn't always who they say they are (Not saying that you are but just saying why we ask for them)
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Posted 3/20/08 9:06 AM |
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Christine
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
I kind of get if the company wants to make sure you're honest, but it should really have no bearing on the salary negotiation. If a job is listed at $70K and you only make $50K doing something similar; it doesn't mean you should get paid less then the job posting.
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Posted 3/20/08 9:11 AM |
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bikramaddict
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
the place i'm at now wanted proof of salary at the end of the process. they asked if it was okay to call my employer (it wasn't!) so i brought a pay stub instead. Thank GOD I didn't up my salary....it taught me to never do that in the future!
ETA: The job posting did not have any mention of salary. When they gave me my offer it was $5K more than i was making and then I was able to neg. another 2K.
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Posted 3/20/08 1:24 PM |
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itkocak
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
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Posted 3/20/08 1:35 PM |
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Christine
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
Just spoke to my HR manager.
This is what he said.
"It is illegal for them to ask you for your pay stub. They most likely want to verify your employment so as not to take an adversarial stance with them tell them that you can provide a letter stating your employment history with them. Date of hire, position etc. but any information regarding compensation is strictly confidential."
HTH.
Thanks Kevin - this is good to know!
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Posted 3/20/08 2:34 PM |
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Reese1106
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Re: Anyone in HR? Bringing your pay stub to an invu?
If you filled out a background check form or signed an application with the company, there may have been something in the fine print stating that by signing it, you are verifying the information you listed is correct, that you are aware that they may run background, reference, credit, and criminal checks on you. They most likely want to use the pay stub to verify your income and that you are still employed by your current employer. If you did sign something, it is not illegal for them to ask for the pay stub because they are only using it to verify information. If you are currently making 50K doing a similar job, that does not mean you should come in the door with a 20K bump. Companies want to see what a person's quality of work is before they pay them a higher salary. It's a 2-way street. It's not a personal reflection on an individual to not pay them 20K more than they are currently making just because the salary range goes up to 70K.
Now if you didn't sign anything and they still ask for it, that would be weird and I wouldn't move forward with that company.
With regards to salary ranges posted on a job listing, if they say it's 50-70K, that is most likely the budgeted range for the position for your tenure with the company. Meaning, if you are hired at $50K, you can receive increases up to $70K. If you are hired at $68K, you will most likely not make more than $70K any time in the near future. Again, this is not a practice all companies employ but it is very common in larger corporations.
Sadly there are many people, and I'm not directing this to anyone on here, who would inflate their salary or say they worked somewhere when they didn't. A company has every right to verify information before they hire someone and that includes salary.
HTH.
Message edited 3/26/2008 2:04:07 PM.
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Posted 3/26/08 2:00 PM |
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