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LadyMaravilla
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Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
David Reimer is a victim of what started as an experiment but has become routine medical procedure around the world.
When a circumcision operation went horribly wrong, doctors decided to turn the then eight-month-old David Reimer into a girl. It was argued that reassigning sex was easy. Nurturing, not nature, determined psychological make-up.
Well, David Reimer, now aged 34, is the angry, living proof of how wrong that assumption was.
He tells Jeff McMullen of a tortured childhood trying to be something he was not, of the bizarre therapy sessions with his twin brother where he was encouraged to adopt attitudes of sexual intercourse.
And he tells 60 Minutes of his eventual struggle to win back his manhood, a struggle involving countless operations, including a double mastectomy.
As McMullen reports, Reimer's story should sound alarm bells about sexual reassignment. Instead, 60 Minutes has been told that several of Australia's leading hospitals still routinely turn boys into girls.
David Below...
Do you think he could really be turned into a girl...by mankind?
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
WOW - how the heck wrong did it go for them to turn him into a girl???
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| Posted 3/9/06 12:24 PM |
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
Posted by dpli
WOW - how the heck wrong did it go for them to turn him into a girl???
I don't know but this is just horrible..
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| Posted 3/9/06 12:26 PM |
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MrsPornStar
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
If this is the same guy, he was on Oprah a few years ago. What they did to him was horrible and I feel so bad for what he wen through.
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| Posted 3/9/06 12:28 PM |
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
Posted by hmpena
If this is the same guy, he was on Oprah a few years ago. What they did to him was horrible and I feel so bad for what he wen through.
And, I think it should be a sl;p in the face to those doctors who thought that by changing his physical appearnce he would change to a girl. Just horrible. 
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Boobobunny
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
I think that Law and Order did a Parady of this once....This story sounds so familiar.
I really feel bad for the guy...I can't imagine feeling like your body wasn't actually yours
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
Posted by Boobobunny
I think that Law and Order did a Parady of this once....This story sounds so familiar.
I really feel bad for the guy...I can't imagine feeling like your body wasn't actually yours
I remember that complete with twins & the child psychologist who should've been shot for trying to "create" a girl.
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| Posted 3/9/06 12:38 PM |
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Shelly
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
I read that book. David Reimer ended up killing himself a few years ago. It is very sad.
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| Posted 3/9/06 12:43 PM |
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
Posted by Shellyesq
I read that book. David Reimer ended up killing himself a few years ago. It is very sad.
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| Posted 3/9/06 12:44 PM |
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Snozberry
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
Posted by Boobobunny
I think that Law and Order did a Parady of this once....This story sounds so familiar.
I've seen this episode.
And what an AWFUL thing to do - that poor man.
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MrsPornStar
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
I just found this article online. It really is so upsetting.
Article on David
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| Posted 3/9/06 12:50 PM |
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Shelly
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
I read the book- As Nature Made Him. It was excellent. I highly recommend it if you are interested in this type of thing.
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LadyMaravilla
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
Posted by Shellyesq
I read the book- As Nature Made Him. It was excellent. I highly recommend it if you are interested in this type of thing.
Got to get that one. Why do people think it's ok and ethical to play with a child's gender?? This is just horrible and I had never head of this story.
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Shelly
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
The parents were actually very confused. They didn't know what to do.
What happened was that the circumscion somehow eliminated his penis. The parents were very confused and consulted several doctors (remember- this is Winnapeg Canada in the 60's or 70's).
A doctor from Johns Hopkins Hospital spoke to the parents and convinced them to raise him as a girl- saying he would have less psychological damage that way than raising a boy without a penis. The book was very sympathetic to the parents, and portrayed the doctor as a pretty mad scientist with a perfect study- twin boys.
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Re: Boys Will Be Boys-Nature Vs. Nurture
how horrible.
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