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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
Posted by medic6809
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Again.....if you were on the jury and based on the EVIDENCE alone, and not all of OUR media influences, would you have made the same decision? You don't know.
Based on evidence alone? Yes - I would have said guilty. 1st Degree.
That's without media influence, without commentators, without reading other's posts on this board and others, etc. Guilty.
May I ask why? I don't mean this snarky or unkind....I am truely curious as to what you think, evidence based, supports a guilty verdict. Maybe I have not considered it?
I know you don't mean to be snarky - I know you're a nice poster. 
You said earlier that you haven't followed the trial that much, and I know all my reasons for thinking she was guilty would probably peg me as being easily swayed or emotional-based, and it's probably true.
Just a few things, even if it's not deemed as evidence:
No one else killed that girl...
She was gone for 30 days and Casey never called police.
She lied to law enforcement about everything..
She made up people to fit a fake story.
The previous internet searches.
Her actions while her daughter was missing.
There was no accidental death - she basically proved that in that jail conversation with her parents.
Like I said before, I'd be the worst juror ever, I guess.
Let's add to that the smell of decomposition in the car. the smell of decomposition that the dogs picked up on in the backyard of their house. lets add the fact that she asked her neighbor for a shovel on the day caylee went missing to do yard work (something she had never done in her entire life before that day)... so yeah... that's hard evidence in my book.
ETA: and went to blockbuster with her boyfriend the night after she went missing, when she was supposedly looking for her daughter. who else could happily enjoy a trip to the blockbuster if you knew your daughter accidentally drowned and your dad didn't help you resuscitate her??
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I've been following this thread but not every single page so this may have been asked already but...
Why does the defendent have the "right" NOT to testify?
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
#CaseyAnthony defense has an "escape plan" for her should she be free to leave Orlando after sentencing.by bobkealing via twitter 4:16 PM
#caseyanthony @bobkealing says the defense team, which is now basically her family has an "escape plan" for her once she walks free
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by JennyPenny
#CaseyAnthony defense has an "escape plan" for her should she be free to leave Orlando after sentencing.by bobkealing via twitter 4:16 PM
#caseyanthony @bobkealing says the defense team, which is now basically her family has an "escape plan" for her once she walks free
Wonder if Baez has a room set up for her, because I sure as hell hope her family won't be taking her back in. Especially after throwing her father under the bus.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Goobster
So people actually believed she was kidnapped, no wait, drowned by accident then tape was put over her mouth?
The jury can believe whatever they want. They can believe she IS guilty - but they have to rule on the evidence that was presented to them, and does that evidence without a shadow of a doubt show that she was the murderer.
It seems that 12 people agreed that they can't 100% say that the evidence that the prosecution gave them is enough.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by brownie
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The defense team was brilliant.
I don't think so
I think Casey had the advantage of 31 days of evidence to disappear or decompose...and they had not so common sensical jury
Like bearcat said, having a jury is a double edged sword
apparently they were. And the jury was selected by both sides. Both sides had to agree.
The prosecution went for all the marbles and lost.
I wasn't there. I didn't hear all of the evidence and I can't weigh in about it. I think it's a tragedy but unfortunately we cannot convict on our emotions. We all have to go by the law.
If you are ever picked to be on a jury for a trial I would hope you would be impartial and consider the evidence only.
I don't know if I could be but I think these jurors had the hardest job to do and they did it to the best of their ability. We are all saddened by this but the law is the law and that's all they were required to do.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
Posted by medic6809
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Posted by medic6809
Again.....if you were on the jury and based on the EVIDENCE alone, and not all of OUR media influences, would you have made the same decision? You don't know.
Based on evidence alone? Yes - I would have said guilty. 1st Degree.
That's without media influence, without commentators, without reading other's posts on this board and others, etc. Guilty.
May I ask why? I don't mean this snarky or unkind....I am truely curious as to what you think, evidence based, supports a guilty verdict. Maybe I have not considered it?
I know you don't mean to be snarky - I know you're a nice poster.
You said earlier that you haven't followed the trial that much, and I know all my reasons for thinking she was guilty would probably peg me as being easily swayed or emotional-based, and it's probably true.
Just a few things, even if it's not deemed as evidence:
No one else killed that girl...
She was gone for 30 days and Casey never called police.
She lied to law enforcement about everything..
She made up people to fit a fake story.
The previous internet searches.
Her actions while her daughter was missing.
There was no accidental death - she basically proved that in that jail conversation with her parents.
Like I said before, I'd be the worst juror ever, I guess.
Thank you for explaining it. I appreciate all sides of it and I agree with everything you have wrote. I guess I wouldn't be so hot either We can be jury rejects together
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
I wish they aired the Ashton-Melich hug. If anyone knows where there is footage of that, please link it here. 
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Blazesyth
Posted by Goobster
So people actually believed she was kidnapped, no wait, drowned by accident then tape was put over her mouth?
The jury can believe whatever they want. They can believe she IS guilty - but they have to rule on the evidence that was presented to them, and does that evidence without a shadow of a doubt show that she was the murderer.
It seems that 12 people agreed that they can't 100% say that the evidence that the prosecution gave them is enough.
Agreed..
Does it SU CK? ABSOLUTELY.. we all know she did it..
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by MsSissy
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her defense team is in their toasting with champagne....yea, they were really seeking justice for little Caylee  This makes me SICK. This little girl is still DEAD and they couldn't give two shitss
I just heard this and my stomach turned
I couldn't / wouldn't listen to the defense team when they spoke earlier, but did they mention anything about "focusing on who the real killer is now"? Anything regarding seeking justice for Caylee?
no. Chaney Mason basically said he hopes we learned a lesson for indulging in bias/prejudice/incompetent lawyers/media talking about cases "they don't know a damned thing about." Never ONCE mentioned Caylee. Caylee wasn't even mentioned until 2 minutes into the press conference by Baez. Baez has said he made sure for the past 3 years to find justice for Caylee...EPIC FAIL.
eta: Beaz said how he knows his daughter will ask him what he did today and he will tell her he "saved a life." Where's the vomit icon when I need it??
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Goobster
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They did not produce any evidence to show how Caylee died.
I don't understand how tape over the mouth doesn't show suffocation? Or even being placed in 3 garbage bags, esp if drugged?
There was no proof that the tape was put there prior to death.
So people actually believed she was kidnapped, no wait, drowned by accident then tape was put over her mouth?
Back to the question of how did she really die? If she drowned, then why can't Casey have purposely drowned her, for that matter too? If drugged, then she either intentionally drugged her to kill her or accidentally killed her (either way killing her).
I'm not saying anyone believes she was kidnapped or drowned or anything other than actually murdered - I'm saying there was NO PROOF beyond a reasonable doubt that she was murdered, or that the tape was put on little Caylee before she died, and without that a jury could not find Casey guilty.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Blazesyth
Posted by Goobster
So people actually believed she was kidnapped, no wait, drowned by accident then tape was put over her mouth?
The jury can believe whatever they want. They can believe she IS guilty - but they have to rule on the evidence that was presented to them, and does that evidence without a shadow of a doubt show that she was the murderer.
It seems that 12 people agreed that they can't 100% say that the evidence that the prosecution gave them is enough.
And that is probably why Juror #7 was crying. She probably believes Casey is guilty.
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I just don't get it. We all have been watching the trial. We heard the same as the jurors. It appears most of us HERE as well as the general public, agrees that she should have been convicted of murder in the 1st, if not manslaughter, based on what was presented.
So what happened?
How did 12 people feel different than what seems to be the rest of the country?
THat's what I find fascinating and perhaps the most eager question to ask.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by CaMacho
I've been following this thread but not every single page so this may have been asked already but...
Why does the defendent have the "right" NOT to testify?
United States Constitution, 5th Amendment.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by BaysideForever
ETA: and went to blockbuster with her boyfriend the night after she went missing, when she was supposedly looking for her daughter. who else could happily enjoy a trip to the blockbuster if you knew your daughter accidentally drowned and your dad didn't help you resuscitate her??
And rent two movies...both similar to this case in some way....forget what they were but one was about a kidnapping and the other was a mother set free or something like that....dont quote me but I recall they were eerily similar to this case. Can anyone quote the exact movie plots?
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
and I don't get how they can HUG her. I can see if the defense team hugs EACH OTHER..for all they have been through, for all their hard work, and they won, whatever...but to hug HER? How? She's a monster.
So many questions..
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
I just don't get it. We all have been watching the trial. We heard the same as the jurors. It appears most of us HERE as well as the general public, agrees that she should have been convicted of murder in the 1st, if not manslaughter, based on what was presented.
So what happened?
How did 12 people feel different than what seems to be the rest of the country?
THat's what I find fascinating and perhaps the most eager question to ask.
Did you watch the judge give the jury instructions?
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by brownie
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Exactly. No PROOF it was Casey or even a determination of how she died. I get it is because of the body state, but there isn't even a way to show how she died. We are all making guesses on how, but we don't know. They also can't decided or prove if the tape was placed on her before or after she died. All of this is guesses. All anybody knows is that she is dead, and while we are all outraged at whoever today, maybe we can all take a minute to hug our kids and say a prayer or whatever you believe in for that sweet little girl.
Just curious then, why could Scott Peterson be found guilty on ONLY circumstantial evidence....AND get the Death Penalty?
Would you guess that maybe her being a young "attractive" female has anything to do with it?
I see what you're saying...I guess I have no faith in this jury justice system 
I thnk it came down to what the jury believed. I honestly don't think it's because she's young and attractive at all. Scott Peterson, while vile and a killer, is still an attractive man and yet he is on death row. I think the fact that they had Laci's body and enough circumstantial evidence to support his HUGE web of lies all helped prove it really could not have been anybody else. I think the reason she is not guilty os because nobody really knows what the helll happened to Caylee. We don't know how she died, when exactly, or any of the circumstances around it. I think that that was the doubt being played, and it worked. How could you find somebody guilty of murder, when there isn't even any solid proof a murder took place? Is she dead, yes, but nobody can show how and so not only would you be convicting her of murder, but you would be guessing on the way that little girl dies.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by muffaboo
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I couldn't / wouldn't listen to the defense team when they spoke earlier, but did they mention anything about "focusing on who the real killer is now"? Anything regarding seeking justice for Caylee?
no. Chaney Mason basically said he hopes we learned a lesson for indulging in bias/prejudice/incompetent lawyers/media talking about cases "they don't know a damned thing about." Never ONCE mentioned Caylee. Caylee wasn't even mentioned until 2 minutes into the press conference by Baez. Baez has said he made sure for the past 3 years to find justice for Caylee...EPIC FAIL.
I know, disgusting.
eta: Beaz said how he knows his daughter will ask him what he did today and he will tell her he "saved a life." Where's the vomit icon when I need it??
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
I just don't get it. We all have been watching the trial. We heard the same as the jurors. It appears most of us HERE as well as the general public, agrees that she should have been convicted of murder in the 1st, if not manslaughter, based on what was presented.
So what happened?
How did 12 people feel different than what seems to be the rest of the country?
THat's what I find fascinating and perhaps the most eager question to ask.
Did you watch the judge give the jury instructions?
Yes. I respect you and your opinion and I know I come off as ignorant to the legal system and this whole ordeal. I recognize and realize that, and I own it. I'm not a lawyer, no legal background, I have never served on a jury. I know how I must come off -and that's why I admit I'd be terrible to ever have on jury, especially this one. I guess I just don't understand. I'm sorry. 
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by Smileyd17
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and 2, b/c she had no lungs. so trachea. no body tissue that would show evidence of a lack of oxygen/suffocation.
no lungs to PROVE that she DIDNT DROWN IN A POOL, no chlorinated water in there!
Ugh, so disgusting!
But that's the thing. The burden of proof is not on the defense team. It's on the prosecution.
The defense team doesn't have to prove that she didn't do it because she is presumed innocent until proven guilty. The prosecution has to prove her guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. And obviously they didn't do that.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
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Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
I just don't get it. We all have been watching the trial. We heard the same as the jurors. It appears most of us HERE as well as the general public, agrees that she should have been convicted of murder in the 1st, if not manslaughter, based on what was presented.
So what happened?
How did 12 people feel different than what seems to be the rest of the country?
THat's what I find fascinating and perhaps the most eager question to ask.
Did you watch the judge give the jury instructions?
Yes. I respect you and your opinion and I know I come off as ignorant to the legal system and this whole ordeal. I recognize and realize that, and I own it. I'm not a lawyer, no legal background, I have never served on a jury. I know how I must come off -and that's why I admit I'd be terrible to ever have on jury, especially this one. I guess I just don't understand. I'm sorry.
You should not have to apologize for your opinion.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by DancinBarefoot
Posted by CaMacho
I've been following this thread but not every single page so this may have been asked already but...
Why does the defendent have the "right" NOT to testify?
United States Constitution, 5th Amendment.
I just can't deal with this system.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
Posted by LadyBugN2Buggies
I just don't get it. We all have been watching the trial. We heard the same as the jurors. It appears most of us HERE as well as the general public, agrees that she should have been convicted of murder in the 1st, if not manslaughter, based on what was presented.
So what happened?
How did 12 people feel different than what seems to be the rest of the country?
THat's what I find fascinating and perhaps the most eager question to ask.
I think those 12 people are looking at it differently since they are in the position to make the decision. We (the public) are making the decision, guilty or not guilty. The jurors are answering the question "Did the prosecution give us concrete evidence to say that she 100% did it?" If they say they dont have 100% proof, then their answer is not guility, even if they think in their heart and soul she is.
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Re: Casey Anthony trial 1/2 hour n counting.
And now the entire defense team is at a resturaunt having a "celebratory" dinner. Disgusting animals they all are.
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