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spooks
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Name: Sarah
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College vs. High School
Anyone a professor or former professor who then went to high school or vice versa?
I'm thinking about teaching but not sure which environment I want. Any pros/cons for either?
I want to do something with history.
Thank you!
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Posted 7/10/07 12:33 PM |
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Shanti
True love
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Re: College vs. High School
My mom went from college adjuncting to HS. The college students are more prepared, interested, etc. and overall, she enjoyed that experience more. However, it is even harder to find a full time college position than it is to find HS so the salary, benefits, etc are better with a full time HS position.
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Posted 7/10/07 12:47 PM |
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Michelina627
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Name: Michelle
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Re: College vs. High School
I am an adjunct at the college level, and work as a higher ed administrator/career counselor. I personally love this age group and couldn't see myself in a high school. There just seems to be a huge difference between high school seniors and even college freshmen when it comes to maturity levels. Granted, I say this with limited experience in high schools, other than as a guest speaker on the topic of surving college and career development.
I know the job market for history is tough for both areas, but for college, you would typicallly need a doctorate in order to be considered for a full time faculty position.
Good luck.
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Posted 7/10/07 12:48 PM |
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nov04libride
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Member since 5/05 14672 total posts
Name: Me
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Re: College vs. High School
Posted by Michelina627
I am an adjunct at the college level, and work as a higher ed administrator/career counselor. I personally love this age group and couldn't see myself in a high school. There just seems to be a huge difference between high school seniors and even college freshmen when it comes to maturity levels. Granted, I say this with limited experience in high schools, other than as a guest speaker on the topic of surving college and career development.
I know the job market for history is tough for both areas, but for college, you would typicallly need a doctorate in order to be considered for a full time faculty position.
Good luck.
Same for me. They did not consider me for adjunct work where I am until I was at the all but dissertation stage of my doctorate. It is nearly impossible to get a tenure-track history professorship, and starting salaries in colleges are less than teachers on LI. A doctorate will take a lot more time, so I'd probably go for teaching in secondary ed.
ETA: I was thinking about getting my certification for secondary ed. AFTER I have taught in a college, but basically I would be hired at the max pay scale since I have a doctorate already, and many districts don't want to hire someone starting at $80,000 or more when they can get someone for half of that. I've got something like MA+100 credits. But you wouldn't get a job teaching college (tenure-track) with just an MA (definitely not MAT).
Message edited 7/11/2007 2:12:06 PM.
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Posted 7/11/07 2:10 PM |
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cjb88
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Name: C
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Re: College vs. High School
I teach HS... i figure one of the pros would be that on the college level you dont have to worry about parents calling you to change their kids grade and all of that nonsense... my district is SO bad with letting parents rule the school... it has been driving me NUTS!
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Posted 7/11/07 11:38 PM |
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JennP
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Name: Jenn
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Re: College vs. High School
Since the coursework needed for secondary takes much less time than what you need to do for college you could always start with that and if you don't like it, just continue on for the doctoral program.
The previous poster was right that colleges would never hire with just a Master of Arts in Teaching (like I am getting.) However, I have seen positions open at the community colleges for those who have their Master's actually in History. I believe they still prefer doctoral candidates though and besides, you're a bit limited if you're only marketing yourself to community colleges.
The only other thought I really have on this besides what I have already told you is that you might want to try taking a Methods course somewhere. Now that I am finishing up, when I look back on what I have taken that was really the only course in which real teaching issues were addressed - I wrote lesson plans, I did a model lesson, school observations, etc. That might serve as an eye opener for you, and maybe push you in one direction or another.
I owe you an email.....
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Posted 7/12/07 9:57 PM |
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