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Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

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Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/secret-new-rule-allows-house-members-to-hide-records-from-ethics-probes_us_58746aefe4b099cdb0ff34eb

It’s emerged that the House GOP quietly changed a rule last week to allow members to keep their records hidden from ethics or criminal investigations.

The tweak allows politicians to conceal any information members produce — even suspicious expenditures and budgets — if the Office of Congressional Ethics or the Department of Justice investigates them for criminal activity, the Center for Responsive Politics reports.

The change essentially makes a member of Congress the owner and sole controller of any records he or she creates, regardless of whether those documents touch on a public interest, such as use of taxpayer funds or the commission of a crime.
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Under the new regulation, a lawmaker being investigated for misuse of taxpayer funds, for example, might now assert the privilege to withhold spending records from law enforcement authorities. Had that measure existed earlier, certain accounts might not have been accessible for corruption investigations that resulted in charges against members of Congress.
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Over the years, several House members have been investigated for criminal activity related to misuse of funds, and have been forced to resign or charged with crimes.
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They're not even trying to hide how corrupt they are anymore....
Instead of trying to pass bills to help the people, the main things they have been working on is how to get rid of oversight into all of the crimes they are/plan to commit.... Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 1/10/17 7:57 AM
 
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Posted 1/10/17 8:28 AM
 

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Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

This makes me nauseous. So much for checks and balances. I just don't understand how they can even pull this crap.

Posted 1/10/17 8:36 AM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Posted by MrsT809

This makes me nauseous. So much for checks and balances. I just don't understand how they can even pull this crap.



This is why they want to keep Trump around as a smokescreen. Everyone goes crazy about every stupid tweet he posts, and nobody notices all of the horrible crap that's actually going on in Congress.

Posted 1/10/17 8:47 AM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Disgusting.

Posted 1/10/17 8:47 AM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by MrsT809

This makes me nauseous. So much for checks and balances. I just don't understand how they can even pull this crap.



This is why they want to keep Trump around as a smokescreen. Everyone goes crazy about every stupid tweet he posts, and nobody notices all of the horrible crap that's actually going on in Congress.



Bingo

Posted 1/10/17 9:27 AM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Posted by stinger

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by MrsT809

This makes me nauseous. So much for checks and balances. I just don't understand how they can even pull this crap.



This is why they want to keep Trump around as a smokescreen. Everyone goes crazy about every stupid tweet he posts, and nobody notices all of the horrible crap that's actually going on in Congress.



Bingo




Exactly! While the media focuses on the tweeter-in-chief, Ryan/McConnell and all the other scumbags on the hill get to do what they want.

My hope is that there are some Woodward and Bernstein-type journalists left that will keep on eye on things. I truly believe there is something on the horizon the size of Watergate...or bigger.

Posted 1/10/17 11:52 AM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by MrsT809

This makes me nauseous. So much for checks and balances. I just don't understand how they can even pull this crap.



This is why they want to keep Trump around as a smokescreen. Everyone goes crazy about every stupid tweet he posts, and nobody notices all of the horrible crap that's actually going on in Congress.



I agree. I think Congress is a huge problem on all fronts.

Posted 1/10/17 12:08 PM
 

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We have GOT to vote them out in the midterm elections. We have no other options.

Posted 1/10/17 12:47 PM
 

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Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

So Congress passed this or the House? and Isn't Obama still President right now? Can't he veto this if it was passed by Congress as the title reads?

Posted 1/10/17 1:45 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01/09/House-GOP-Quietly-Shields-Lawmakers-Records-Ethics-Probes

The House. I can't find any info about if Obama can veto the rule, since it doesn't appear to be a bill, he may not have any power over this.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/09/Why-Obama-Vetoed-New-Consumer-Protection-Rule
Although, he has vetoed a House Rule before, so maybe he can veto this? They'll just redo it in 10 days if he does....

Message edited 1/10/2017 2:42:11 PM.

Posted 1/10/17 2:37 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

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http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01/09/House-GOP-Quietly-Shields-Lawmakers-Records-Ethics-Probes

The House. I can't find any info about if Obama can veto the rule, since it doesn't appear to be a bill, he may not have any power over this.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/09/Why-Obama-Vetoed-New-Consumer-Protection-Rule
Although, he has vetoed a House Rule before, so maybe he can veto this? They'll just redo it in 10 days if he does....



Obama is a lame duck at this point, so the "isn't he still president" comments are just Chat Icon

Posted 1/10/17 2:43 PM
 

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Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Its so ironic and unbelievable given that the entire campaign against Hillary was about how corrupt and crooked she was.

This administration hasn't even been sworn in yet and the corruption is staggering.

Posted 1/10/17 2:49 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Posted by Xelindrya

So Congress passed this or the House? and Isn't Obama still President right now? Can't he veto this if it was passed by Congress as the title reads?



If this is just a simple resolution, which I think it may be, it doesn't go before the president at all.

Posted 1/10/17 2:50 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Posted by Xelindrya

So Congress passed this or the House? and Isn't Obama still President right now? Can't he veto this if it was passed by Congress as the title reads?



Hurry up you can only blame Obama for everything for another week and a half.

Posted 1/10/17 2:51 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

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Posted by GoldenRod

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01/09/House-GOP-Quietly-Shields-Lawmakers-Records-Ethics-Probes

The House. I can't find any info about if Obama can veto the rule, since it doesn't appear to be a bill, he may not have any power over this.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/09/Why-Obama-Vetoed-New-Consumer-Protection-Rule
Although, he has vetoed a House Rule before, so maybe he can veto this? They'll just redo it in 10 days if he does....



Obama is a lame duck at this point, so the "isn't he still president" comments are just Chat Icon



Yup but I wouldn't be surprised if they did this now so when the shit hits the fan, people will blame Obama because he was technically in office at the time.

Posted 1/10/17 3:13 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

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Posted by Pumpkin1

Posted by GoldenRod

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01/09/House-GOP-Quietly-Shields-Lawmakers-Records-Ethics-Probes

The House. I can't find any info about if Obama can veto the rule, since it doesn't appear to be a bill, he may not have any power over this.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/09/Why-Obama-Vetoed-New-Consumer-Protection-Rule
Although, he has vetoed a House Rule before, so maybe he can veto this? They'll just redo it in 10 days if he does....



Obama is a lame duck at this point, so the "isn't he still president" comments are just Chat Icon



Yup but I wouldn't be surprised if they did this now so when the shit hits the fan, people will blame Obama because he was technically in office at the time.



Everything bad that happens during the next 4 years will be Obama's fault. Everything good that happens (if there are any....) will be Lord Trump's doing...

Posted 1/10/17 3:15 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

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Posted by Xelindrya

So Congress passed this or the House? and Isn't Obama still President right now? Can't he veto this if it was passed by Congress as the title reads?



Hurry up you can only blame Obama for everything for another week and a half.



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blame him?
Wow. How did you ever read anything in my statement of blame on ANYONE other than congress which I have often said I've detested? And perhaps MSM for being constantly misleading?

If a law is passed through the HOUSE it has to go to the Senate which is the CONGRESS the two parts House and Senate and then it goes to the President. How is that blame on Obama?

Reverse, I actually implied there was hope to end this stupidity so do tell me.. how was I blaming Obama for any of it?

Don't worry ... I'll wait. So please take your time.

Message edited 1/10/2017 3:52:06 PM.

Posted 1/10/17 3:51 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

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Posted by Pumpkin1

Posted by GoldenRod

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01/09/House-GOP-Quietly-Shields-Lawmakers-Records-Ethics-Probes

The House. I can't find any info about if Obama can veto the rule, since it doesn't appear to be a bill, he may not have any power over this.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/09/Why-Obama-Vetoed-New-Consumer-Protection-Rule
Although, he has vetoed a House Rule before, so maybe he can veto this? They'll just redo it in 10 days if he does....



Obama is a lame duck at this point, so the "isn't he still president" comments are just Chat Icon



Yup but I wouldn't be surprised if they did this now so when the shit hits the fan, people will blame Obama because he was technically in office at the time.



Everything bad that happens during the next 4 years will be Obama's fault. Everything good that happens (if there are any....) will be Lord Trump's doing...



Yes just like every single Presidency.

This is not directed at you at all but to the masses, maybe everyone should stay on topic of the Congress and not make it Trump bashing again. The Congress Republicans and Democrats alike are corrupt and it would have been the same even if Hillary was going to take office.

Posted 1/10/17 4:01 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

THIS right here is the real problem in our gov't... The blatant corruption in congress. If there is ANYTHING that I would like to see happen going forward it is to end the career politician. They have warmed those seats long enough to form roots underneath. They have to GO.

Posted 1/11/17 3:19 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

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Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Pumpkin1

Posted by GoldenRod

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01/09/House-GOP-Quietly-Shields-Lawmakers-Records-Ethics-Probes

The House. I can't find any info about if Obama can veto the rule, since it doesn't appear to be a bill, he may not have any power over this.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/09/Why-Obama-Vetoed-New-Consumer-Protection-Rule
Although, he has vetoed a House Rule before, so maybe he can veto this? They'll just redo it in 10 days if he does....



Obama is a lame duck at this point, so the "isn't he still president" comments are just Chat Icon



Yup but I wouldn't be surprised if they did this now so when the shit hits the fan, people will blame Obama because he was technically in office at the time.



Everything bad that happens during the next 4 years will be Obama's fault. Everything good that happens (if there are any....) will be Lord Trump's doing...



Yes just like every single Presidency.

This is not directed at you at all but to the masses, maybe everyone should stay on topic of the Congress and not make it Trump bashing again. The Congress Republicans and Democrats alike are corrupt and it would have been the same even if Hillary was going to take office.

.

Sure, absolutely. But as the saying goes "the fish stinks from the head"... With this new administration the corruption starts at the top. There aren't any limits to the amount of far-reaching corruption anymore. They will do whatever the fcuk they want. And they are hard at work absolving all checks and balances.

Posted 1/11/17 3:31 PM
 

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Re: Congress Quietly Passes New Rule Allowing House Members To Hide Records From Ethics Probes

Posted by MC09

Posted by KarenK122

Posted by GoldenRod

Posted by ElizaRags35

Posted by Pumpkin1

Posted by GoldenRod

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2017/01/09/House-GOP-Quietly-Shields-Lawmakers-Records-Ethics-Probes

The House. I can't find any info about if Obama can veto the rule, since it doesn't appear to be a bill, he may not have any power over this.

http://www.thefiscaltimes.com/2016/06/09/Why-Obama-Vetoed-New-Consumer-Protection-Rule
Although, he has vetoed a House Rule before, so maybe he can veto this? They'll just redo it in 10 days if he does....



Obama is a lame duck at this point, so the "isn't he still president" comments are just Chat Icon



Yup but I wouldn't be surprised if they did this now so when the shit hits the fan, people will blame Obama because he was technically in office at the time.



Everything bad that happens during the next 4 years will be Obama's fault. Everything good that happens (if there are any....) will be Lord Trump's doing...



Yes just like every single Presidency.

This is not directed at you at all but to the masses, maybe everyone should stay on topic of the Congress and not make it Trump bashing again. The Congress Republicans and Democrats alike are corrupt and it would have been the same even if Hillary was going to take office.

.

Sure, absolutely. But as the saying goes "the fish stinks from the head"... With this new administration the corruption starts at the top. There aren't any limits to the amount of far-reaching corruption anymore. They will do whatever the fcuk they want. And they are hard at work absolving all checks and balances.



Trump is basically a smokescreen for Congress at this point - the unabashed corruption and attack on American rights and democracy should anger EVERYONE, most of all Trump, if he actually gave a shit.

Posted 1/11/17 4:15 PM
 
 
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