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Death Sentence Gone Wrong

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IluvBo
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Death Sentence Gone Wrong

COLUMBUS, Ohio (Reuters) - A double murderer was put to death in Ohio on Tuesday but not until after one of his veins had collapsed, causing the condemned man to sit up and tell his executioners, "It's not working," officials said.

The Ohio Department of Corrections said Joseph Clark, 57, was pronounced dead at 11:26 a.m. EDT (4:26 p.m. British Time) following an injection of lethal chemicals at the Southern Ohio Correctional Institution in Lucasville.

Spokeswoman Andrea Dean said the execution was delayed about 90 minutes because technicians had trouble initially finding a site in Clark's arm for the intravenous line carrying the chemicals.

Then shortly after the poisons were supposed to have been pumping into his body, she said, he sat up saying, "It's not working. It's not working."

Officials determined that a vein had collapsed. Curtains were closed to block witnesses' view until technicians found a vein in his other arm. They were then parted to reveal him dying, witnesses said.

Ohio has used lethal injection repeatedly without similar problems, but this method of execution, used in all but one of the 38 U.S. states that impose capital punishment, is under legal attack. The U.S. Supreme Court has a challenge before it from Florida claiming that it causes undue pain, while the matter is also before a court in California.

The method involves three separate drugs: the first renders the victim unconscious, the second stops all muscle movement except the heart and the third stops the heart, causing death.

Clark was given a meal of his request on Monday, consisting of shrimp, steak, chicken wings, fries, rolls with butter, cherry pie and a soft drink.

Just before the execution process started the first time Clark made a final statement apologising to his victims' families and saying "Today my life is being taken because of drugs. If you live by the sword you die by the sword."

On January 13, 1984, Clark shot Marine reservist and father of two David Manning and stole $65 (35.4 pounds) from the gas station where Manning was working.

The murder came during an eight-day crime spree in which Clark also murdered another man, student Donald Harris, and wounded a third man during an attempted robbery.

Harris was filling in for a friend at a convenience store when Clark entered and demanded the contents of the store's safe. Harris said he did not know the safe's combination, and was shot in the back of the head.

Clark later attempted to rob a man at an automated teller machine, the two struggled, and the victim was wounded twice. A witness saw the attack and noted the licence plate number on Clark's car.

After he was arrested, Clark tried to hang himself in his jail cell, and confessed to the murders while recovering in a hospital. He was sentenced to death for Manning's murder.

Clark said he robbed to support a drug habit.

"Neither the parole board nor I are persuaded by Mr. Clark's attempt to explain away Mr. Manning's murder," Gov. Robert Taft said in refusing clemency last week.

Taft said Clark's "well established prior criminal conduct, both as a juvenile and as an adult, signifies a propensity for violent behaviour."

Clark was the 21st person to be executed in Ohio since the state resumed carrying out the death penalty in 1999, and the 1,021st inmate executed in the United States since capital punishment resumed in 1976.

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Posted 5/3/06 11:27 AM
 
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Re: Death Sentence Gone Wrong

I know he was a murdered and all, but that's just so horrible.

Posted 5/3/06 11:29 AM
 

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Penn & Teller did a show on the Death penalty a few weeks ago. They explained that there are several chemicals involved and the frist one puts the person to sleep so they don't feel the pain of their lungs suffocating, etc. But in MANY cases autoposies showed that there wasn't enough of the chemical to have put the people to sleep, but because the 2nd chemical makes all motion (including speaking) impossible, they couldn't even tell anyone or scream in the pain. The study, which was done by a university, showed that the conditions in about half of lethal injections were far worse than what is required to euthanize ANIMALS

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Posted 5/3/06 11:33 AM
 

IluvBo
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Oh, I'm not saying that he shouldn't have had the lethal injection.............all I'm saying is what the heck..............didn't they see something was NOT happening? The poor guy had to tell them, he wasn't dying. How hysterical is that!

Besides it being funny..............what about the families watching the executiion. It isn't bad enough they lost their loved ones.........but then to have the execution go down the shithouse? Poor families.

Posted 5/3/06 11:33 AM
 

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"causes undue pain"???? Chat Icon While I'm not pro capital punishment at all, um...what about the "undue pain" he caused the families of his victims?? Who really gives a crap if a double-murderer felt "undue pain"?

Posted 5/3/06 11:34 AM
 

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Posted by BabyAvocado

"causes undue pain"???? Chat Icon While I'm not pro capital punishment at all, um...what about the "undue pain" he caused the families of his victims?? Who really gives a crap if a double-murderer felt "undue pain"?



i agree.

Posted 5/3/06 11:35 AM
 

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Posted 5/3/06 11:35 AM
 

IluvBo
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Posted by BabyAvocado

"causes undue pain"???? Chat Icon While I'm not pro capital punishment at all, um...what about the "undue pain" he caused the families of his victims?? Who really gives a crap if a double-murderer felt "undue pain"?



I perfectly agree! Pain, tough ****.............what about the pain they caused the families? I know this is going to start a contraversay but.....................I'm 50/50 for the death penalty. However, I strongly believe that people like Son of Sam and Charles Manson just to name 2, should die, die, die, die, die

Posted 5/3/06 11:36 AM
 

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Posted by BabyAvocado

"causes undue pain"???? Chat Icon While I'm not pro capital punishment at all, um...what about the "undue pain" he caused the families of his victims?? Who really gives a crap if a double-murderer felt "undue pain"?



I couldn't agree more. I'm sure the two fatherless children of David are upset that their father's muderer suffered a little bit.

Posted 5/3/06 11:39 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Whether or not you believe in the death penalty (and I absolutely do not), even if a person is a murderer, he is still a person and we don't have the right to kill them in a way that amounts to torture. When we treat others inhumanely, it takes OUR humanity away.

Posted 5/3/06 11:47 AM
 

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Re: Death Sentence Gone Wrong

Posted by BabyAvocado

"causes undue pain"???? Chat Icon While I'm not pro capital punishment at all, um...what about the "undue pain" he caused the families of his victims?? Who really gives a crap if a double-murderer felt "undue pain"?



I also agree, he lost his right be treated fairly as a person when he murdered two innocent people. And a few extra needles, that doesn't even compare to what he did.

Posted 5/3/06 11:52 AM
 

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Posted by marymoon

Whether or not you believe in the death penalty (and I absolutely do not), even if a person is a murderer, he is still a person and we don't have the right to kill them in a way that amounts to torture. When we treat others inhumanely, it takes OUR humanity away.



Ok Jen, but what was his torture? That he had a little anxiety waiting for the drugs to kick-in?

Maybe I misread the article, I didn't pick-up on anything that said he was in pain,just prolonged waiting. I myself am a believer in the death penalty but of course, in the most humane fashion possible.

Posted 5/3/06 11:52 AM
 

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Flame away -

I'm for the death penalty - and actually I'm for torture as well. Inhuman - definitely. Someone who murders my family member should suffer & then die. I've been to the Parents of Murdered Children and the Surviving Siblings of Homocide fund raisers. I know people that have family members murdered. I would say the punishment fits the crime for these people.

Posted 5/3/06 11:55 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Posted by jana

Posted by marymoon

Whether or not you believe in the death penalty (and I absolutely do not), even if a person is a murderer, he is still a person and we don't have the right to kill them in a way that amounts to torture. When we treat others inhumanely, it takes OUR humanity away.



Ok Jen, but what was his torture? That he had a little anxiety waiting for the drugs to kick-in?

Maybe I misread the article, I didn't pick-up on anything that said he was in pain,just prolonged waiting. I myself am a believer in the death penalty but of course, in the most humane fashion possible.



I don't think it necessarily amounts to torture. But I can imagine it must have been awful. My post was more in response to posting that they didn't care if a murderer felt a little more pain. However, as I posted originally, botched executions get botched a LOT worse than this on a regular basis, so I don't think it's a good attitude to have in general, that we shouldn't care if people feel more pain on the execution table, because it might amount to unimaginable silent torture.

Posted 5/3/06 11:55 AM
 

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Re: Death Sentence Gone Wrong

Posted by marymoon

Whether or not you believe in the death penalty (and I absolutely do not), even if a person is a murderer, he is still a person and we don't have the right to kill them in a way that amounts to torture. When we treat others inhumanely, it takes OUR humanity away.



Well said I agree 100%. I consider myself to be pro-death penalty (this guy definitely deserved it) but that is crazy that he had to sit up and say "it's not working" . Maybe the doctors administering the injection were on drugs......

Posted 5/3/06 12:39 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Death Sentence Gone Wrong

Also, the punishment is death, not torture. He's already paying with his life. I can't imagine what it must feel like to be waiting and to know you're about to die, and then to have to tell the executioner it's not working is awful. There were similar stories with botched electricutions which just scare me. I read the green mile when I was a kid, and it just kind of scarred me for life and put me against the death penalty in a big way, because it made me really think about it.

Posted 5/3/06 12:44 PM
 
 

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