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Name: Susan
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Do you know someone like this?
Can't find a job in their field. Out of work for a year. Saying they are sending resumes and looking at job sites..etc.
nada.
Teacher with masters.
I know it's rough out there but I'm beginning to think that some people have given up or convince themselves that they shouldn't apply for something else they could do.
Maybe it just feels fruitless after being out for such a long period of time.
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Posted 10/10/12 2:24 PM |
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
Sometimes I see people who are really picky.
I also know someone who comes across as really arrogant and they don't have a whole lot of work experience, so I imagine this may turn off potential employers.
Sometimes I see people where I know because of negative things in their history (i.e. multiple DWIs that lead to jail time), this is probably a large reason they can't find a decent job.
I do know that certain fields are not like how they used to be though.
I have been working in my field since the late 90's and send out resumes on occasion to which I don't even get a response.
I think it's really tough out there in general.
I also think depending on someone's situation, it's not always easy to say they should just take a McJob somewhere.
You have to factor in things like cost of gas and childcare. In the end it may cost more to GO to work for some if it comes down to just taking a job, for the sake of having a job, KWIM?
Fortunately, I have never been unemployed. I have heard people who have said that we should really not judge until we are actually in that position.
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Posted 10/10/12 6:35 PM |
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CAMCaps
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Do you know someone like this?
Teaching is a difficult field to get into to, but there are jobs. Last year, I was excessed from my job and was called to interview for numerous interviews over the summer. I now have a full-time tenure track position in a very desirable district. I think teaching like a lot of other jobs has to do with connections. People need to make sure they maintain their connections and that they use them to their advantage.
I know someone who has been looking for a teaching position since 2009. This person wants to work in a specific district. Currently, this person subs in said district. I have told them about jobs I am aware of, but I really do not think they follow up on any my leads.
I am not saying people should take any job, but I do feel like they should investigate alternatives. I did this and was called for a few different types of jobs when I was looking over the summer.
When I went to unemployment, a woman at the resume workshop had been out of work for 6-8 months and she brought an out of date resume which was very poorly constructed and she could not figure out why no one was calling her. It took her 6-8 months to realize her resume was unsatisfactory? Seriously? Another woman at the same workshop had NO resume and had been out of work for over month.
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Posted 10/10/12 8:58 PM |
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
I know someone who literally was laid off in 2002 or 2003 and STILL "cannot find a job"
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Posted 10/11/12 4:22 PM |
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Do you know someone like this?
Teaching is really, really tight right now. Even the city does not have openings the way it used to- and it's gotten harder to get hired. When I began teaching there in 96 they hired anyone with a pulse. It's much more competitive now.
I actually just left teaching after 15 years and spent a few months looking to get into a new field- and I found there was very little I was qualified to do. I ultimately became self-employed, in part because I wanted to but also partly because I was not really qualified to do much else (according to a headhunter, not just my own opinion.)
Message edited 10/11/2012 7:40:22 PM.
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Posted 10/11/12 7:39 PM |
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newbie00
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
I have a family member that can't seem to find a decent job in the last five years. It's really getting old, but at the same time they are extremely picky as to the type of job they want.
Sometimes you just need to suck it up. I sometimes think that if they actually put themselves out there and opened their minds to a diff field, it would pay off for them in the long run.
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Posted 10/11/12 8:08 PM |
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Karen
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
Teaching is very tough to get into right now. And a teacher with a Masters is not in the budget for a lot of districts.
Why hire someone that high up the steps when they can get a student teacher that they know for a fraction of the cost at year 1, BA pay??
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Posted 10/11/12 8:27 PM |
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MichLiz213
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Do you know someone like this?
I have been subbing for 5 years and still haven't been able to obtain a permanent position. I'm a teacher with a master's degree. It's really, really tough. But my area is seriously over-saturated (elementary). I sent out about 100 resumes one year and got no responses.
As far as opening up to a different field, I have applied for several jobs outside of my field with no luck. From others who have tried, I have heard that the stigma is that once a teaching position opens we'll jump at the chance, so why bother hiring us.I would love to work at a college or a non-profit. I have accepted that I may not fulfill my dream as a teacher, but I'd like a house and a couple more kids, so my other dreams are winning out.
This is my personal experience. I don't know your friend, but I know a ton of subs that have been subbing for 3 or more years with no luck and have been trying everything short of moving out of state to find a job.
Message edited 10/11/2012 9:27:31 PM.
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Posted 10/11/12 9:23 PM |
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Plan B is Now Plan A
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Name: Susan
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
Ok, so I want to help her. She currently doesn't sub. She is still getting UE benies.
How would that work? I want to try to give her sopme ideas. I think she may be very picky. She does see herself as very qualified and doesn't want to take something beneath her. I get that. But she went back to school for teaching and got her degree and shortly after that lost her job. That just sucks.
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Posted 10/12/12 9:54 AM |
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Does she have any contacts who are teachers?
I am not one, but I would think having an "in" somewhere would be a big help.
I know for me, if I HAD to leave my job for some reason, I would be reaching out to everyone I knew in my field.
I know that is not even a guarantee these days and people can be funny about recommending someone, but it's still a good option.
I've given resumes to my boss from people I don't know from this site with the disclaimer that I do not know them, but I would like to help them find work, KWIM?
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Posted 10/12/12 10:05 AM |
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BabysMomma29
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
Out of work teacher with masters degree here! And I've been looking for a non-teaching job for a few months now. I have a bachelors in communications and experience and I still cannot find a job so you may never know the full situation.
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Posted 10/12/12 8:59 PM |
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Plan B is Now Plan A
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Name: Susan
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
She told me she has a lead so I will keep my fingers crossed.
It's so frustrating. We need good teachers.
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Posted 10/15/12 5:24 PM |
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DumpsterBaby
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
I think it's mostly slim pickins out there, any when you have student loans, debt, rent, etc., you sometimes just can't take a job that's not financially worth it. Sometimes people joke that UE pays more.
There are certainly people who just don't try, but thats their stress to deal with. I had a job within 2 weeks of being laid off, so it can be done. I think a lot of people today, by nature, seem entitled to a certain career or salary and just won't budge no matter what.
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Posted 10/16/12 4:33 PM |
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gdubs
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
Posted by DumpsterBaby
There are certainly people who just don't try, but thats their stress to deal with. I had a job within 2 weeks of being laid off, so it can be done. I think a lot of people today, by nature, seem entitled to a certain career or salary and just won't budge no matter what.
I agree with this. Yes, there are jobs out there but not jobs for everyone. People who know their sh*t, have well written resumes, good job interview skills and even better communication skills are going to get the GOOD jobs.
In the last 3 years I have changed jobs twice, by choice and have doubled my salary in the mean time. There are jobs out there you just have to go after them and have realistic expectations. Teachers who refuse to apply to any job but ones in a particular district may be in for a BIT of a wait. When you need to pay the bills you can't always be so picky.
I know a bunch of people who were in jobs with fancy titles and cushy salaries who were laid off and refused to even look at jobs that were maybe a step down from where they were. Working in HR I am more inclined to bring in a candidate who has been working even it were a step down over someone who did nothing but collect UE for any extended period of time. Yes, there are circumstances where this just isn't possible but the reality of it is, the longer a candidate is out of their field the less attractive they become to employers.
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Posted 10/23/12 8:17 AM |
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Re: Do you know someone like this?
I agree with this as well.
I work in the social work field, and I have heard other social workers complain about their job, (or sometimes lack of) but when I tell them we are hiring, they turn their nose down because it's "case management" and "going into the field".
It's not an easy job, by any means, but I have been doing this kind of work for years and I feel like I have learned so much compared to some of my peers who are just sitting behind their desk waiting for their client to come in and talk to them for an hour.
A lot of my peers in those kind of roles come to me and my case management colleagues when they are in need of a resource for a "difficult" client.
I have a co-worker in fact who is an LCSW but took a position with our agency so he can gain medical social work/discharge planning experience because all he knows really is 1:1 therapy and he wants to work in a hospital.
You never know where it could take you if you are open-minded and willing to give things a try.
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Posted 10/23/12 9:47 AM |
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