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Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
http://www.people.com/article/josh-duggar-molestation-scandal-records-released-compliance-law
Despite outcry from the Duggars, police records detailing how Josh Duggar molested five underage girls as a teen – including four of his sisters and the family babysitter – were not illegally released, the Springdale, Arkansas, city attorney said in a statement Thursday.
Last month, after consulting with Springdale City Attorney Ernest Cate, the city's police chief, Kathy O'Kelley, released the scathing, 2006 police report containing child molestation accusations against the 19 Kids and Counting stars' eldest son to a tabloid, which unleashed a media firestorm and led to Josh resigning from his job at the Family Research Council.
During their exclusive interview with Fox News' Megyn Kelly Wednesday night, Jim Bob and Michelle Duggar said they believe their son's police records were illegally released – and that they are looking into taking legal action to make sure this never happens again.
"This information was released illegally," Jim Bob told Kelly. "I wonder why all of this press is not going after the system for releasing juvenile records. That is a huge story."
But Cate says that the Springdale Police Department did not break any laws. "On May 20, 2015," his statement reads, "in full compliance with Arkansas law, the Springdale Police Department responded to a records request under the Arkansas Freedom of Information Act.
"The requested record was not sealed or expunged, and at the time the report was filed, the person listed in the report was an adult," the statement says.
"Any names of minors included in the report, as well as pronouns, were redacted from the report by the Springdale Police Department in compliance with Arkansas law prior to release."
Springdale Mayor Doug Sprouse said O’Kelley and Cate consulted before deciding to release the report.
"From every indication I have the chief and city attorney reluctantly did what they had to do to comply with the state FOI law," said Sprouse, according to local media reports.
This means little to the Duggars, who say the release of the report brought on "unprecedented attacks" against their family and left their four daughters feeling "victimized."
Michelle told Fox News that when her four daughters spoke to authorities in 2006 at the Children's Safety Center in Springdale, Arkansas, about how their brother, Josh, now 27, had molested them, they thought they were doing so with complete confidentiality.
"I think what's so devastating as a mom, for me, is, we took our children to the Children's Safety Center," Michelle said. "We trusted them. We trusted the police department. Our children poured out their hearts. They shared everything. And then to have their trust betrayed?"
"For all of their information and everything to be turned over to a tabloid … for those things to be twisted and shared in a slanderous way," she added.
"They have been victimized more by what has happened in these last couple weeks. And they weren't told years ago because they honestly – they didn't even understand or know that anything had happened until after the fact when they were told about it."
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
Right Jim bob the real story is what the police department did legally. Not what your son did to his own sisters. These people piss me off so much I can't even put it into words
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
When is the spaceship coming to take them to the Hale-Bopp comet?
I am sick of hearing about them!
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
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When is the spaceship coming to take them to the Hale-Bopp comet?
I am sick of hearing about them!
OMG LMAO!
New sneakers for everyone!!!
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
jim bob your daughters have been victimized. by you, your wife and Josh.
a$$hole...
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
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Posted by NervousNell
When is the spaceship coming to take them to the Hale-Bopp comet?
I am sick of hearing about them!
OMG LMAO!
New sneakers for everyone!!!
PIMP!!!!
I just read recently that some of the hale-boppers had to stay behind. I was surprised. Who gets chosen to stay behind?
If you email them on their website, they will respond to you.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
"They have been victimized more by what has happened in these last couple weeks. And they weren't told years ago because they honestly – they didn't even understand or know that anything had happened until after the fact when they were told about it."
This is what REALLY gets me as after he said that, he said they poured their hearts out to the police. That was YEARS ago, NOT in the last few weeks.
They don't even know HOW to lie and they truly think that everyone else in the world is as brainwashed and uneducated like they are their kids and cult are.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
I think the interview tonight is REALLY going to put them in the worst place to get their show back on as they are looking worse and worse to the public.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
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I think the interview tonight is REALLY going to put them in the worst place to get their show back on as they are looking worse and worse to the public.
ITA they are just digging the hole deeper. They should stop talking in public. They didn't do what was right and nothing they can say or do can change that. I just don't understand how they can honestly believe that Josh has changed because of some manual labor and a stern talking to.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
This just solidifies to me they have mental issues, and they are very much the cult I imagined they were. Sorry but it's not normal to have so many children, keep popping them out and expect everything to be peaches and cream. It's just not the norm the way they live and this is NOT surprising to me at all.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
Posted by afternoondelight828
"They have been victimized more by what has happened in these last couple weeks. And they weren't told years ago because they honestly – they didn't even understand or know that anything had happened until after the fact when they were told about it."
This is what REALLY gets me as after he said that, he said they poured their hearts out to the police. That was YEARS ago, NOT in the last few weeks.
They don't even know HOW to lie and they truly think that everyone else in the world is as brainwashed and uneducated like they are their kids and cult are.
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Poppyseed79
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
Posted by Goobster
This just solidifies to me they have mental issues, and they are very much the cult I imagined they were. Sorry but it's not normal to have so many children, keep popping them out and expect everything to be peaches and cream. It's just not the norm the way they live and this is NOT surprising to me at all.
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Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
I DO agree that this report being put out in the media absolutely victimizes these girls.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
Posted by Paramount
I DO agree that this report being put out in the media absolutely victimizes these girls.
But weren't their names blacked out so nobody knew the identity
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
Posted by MsSissy
Posted by Paramount
I DO agree that this report being put out in the media absolutely victimizes these girls.
But weren't their names blacked out so nobody knew the identity
Yes, but with a family that is as visible as they are it's very easy to figure it out. Do I believe that that should be the story? No. But I do believe that if I were a victim and the reports were released and it was easy to figure out that I was the referenced girl, I would feel further victimized.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
Posted by jessnbrian
Posted by MsSissy
Posted by Paramount
I DO agree that this report being put out in the media absolutely victimizes these girls.
But weren't their names blacked out so nobody knew the identity
Yes, but with a family that is as visible as they are it's very easy to figure it out. Do I believe that that should be the story? No. But I do believe that if I were a victim and the reports were released and it was easy to figure out that I was the referenced girl, I would feel further victimized.
Oh Ok. I haven't read it and haven't really been paying too much attention to the details.
However, I do remember everyone trying to figure out who the girls were. I didn't see the point in that.
I feel for the girls. Especially because it seems like they are confused as to whether they are victims or not.
They say they are. But don't want to call their brother what he is. A molester.
I don't even know how old they are now. But if they are still under age, I hope someone steps in a gets them the help they need.
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Posted by MsSissy
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Posted by Paramount
I DO agree that this report being put out in the media absolutely victimizes these girls.
But weren't their names blacked out so nobody knew the identity
Yes, but with a family that is as visible as they are it's very easy to figure it out. Do I believe that that should be the story? No. But I do believe that if I were a victim and the reports were released and it was easy to figure out that I was the referenced girl, I would feel further victimized.
Oh Ok. I haven't read it and haven't really been paying too much attention to the details.
However, I do remember everyone trying to figure out who the girls were. I didn't see the point in that.
I feel for the girls. Especially because it seems like they are confused as to whether they are victims or not.
They say they are. But don't want to call their brother what he is. A molester.
I don't even know how old they are now. But if they are still under age, I hope someone steps in a gets them the help they need.
There is only one underage at 17 but turning 18 soon but she wants to not turn him in either. They are all brainwashed by their parents and cult.
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Posted by Paramount
I DO agree that this report being put out in the media absolutely victimizes these girls.
The 33 page report did not have their names and the only 2 coming out are the married ones. The youngest we know just from her age.
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Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
I am not defending them, but that's bull sh*t. A sealed police record of a 14 year old should not be released, period. I think that the Freedom Of Information Act was abused in this case. Whose business is this anyways? This must be devastating for those poor girls, that's who the police should have been protecting and by releasing this information they failed. Yeah yeah, the public is duped, well it's not about you. Yes, it didn't have their names on it but people figured it out pretty quickly. I think it is horrendous that we are making them relive this all over again. Again, I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM. I am just saying that releasing the records of a minor is highly disturbing to me.
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I am not defending them, but that's bull sh*t. A sealed police record of a 14 year old should not be released, period. I think that the Freedom Of Information Act was abused in this case. Whose business is this anyways? This must be devastating for those poor girls, that's who the police should have been protecting and by releasing this information they failed. Yeah yeah, the public is duped, well it's not about you. Yes, it didn't have their names on it but people figured it out pretty quickly. I think it is horrendous that we are making them relive this all over again. Again, I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM. I am just saying that releasing the records of a minor is highly disturbing to me.
But what are they re-living if the father and 2 of the 5 are saying they don't remember what happened?
This is what happens when you choose to sell your soul to the devil for millions. Sorry.
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Re: Duggars: No Laws Were Broken When Josh Duggar's Police Report Was Released to the Public, Says City Attorney
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Posted by StarsStripes
I am not defending them, but that's bull sh*t. A sealed police record of a 14 year old should not be released, period. I think that the Freedom Of Information Act was abused in this case. Whose business is this anyways? This must be devastating for those poor girls, that's who the police should have been protecting and by releasing this information they failed. Yeah yeah, the public is duped, well it's not about you. Yes, it didn't have their names on it but people figured it out pretty quickly. I think it is horrendous that we are making them relive this all over again. Again, I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM. I am just saying that releasing the records of a minor is highly disturbing to me.
But what are they re-living if the father and 2 of the 5 are saying they don't remember what happened?
This is what happens when you choose to sell your soul to the devil for millions. Sorry.
How about the embarrassment, humiliation, and unfortunately, the stigma that goes along with it. I am sure they are feeling that way, even if it's not right. As a mother of girls I would be FURIOUS if personal information about them got out of this nature, that was promised to be kept secret for their own sake. They probably don't want to talk about it but now they may feel they have to in order to defend their parents and brothers (Jessa already has). I just feel like people are taking the opportunity to burn the Duggars at the stake and are forgetting that all of this is probably hurting the girls the most. It isn't right, regardless of if they are tv. Our country loves to publicly shame, regardless of who it hurts.
And once again, I am not saying what Josh did is forgivable, or how the parents handled it was right, I am ONLY referring to the fact that the "Sealed" records of a minor were released to the MEDIA.
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Posted by StarsStripes
I am not defending them, but that's bull sh*t. A sealed police record of a 14 year old should not be released, period. I think that the Freedom Of Information Act was abused in this case. Whose business is this anyways? This must be devastating for those poor girls, that's who the police should have been protecting and by releasing this information they failed. Yeah yeah, the public is duped, well it's not about you. Yes, it didn't have their names on it but people figured it out pretty quickly. I think it is horrendous that we are making them relive this all over again. Again, I AM NOT DEFENDING HIM. I am just saying that releasing the records of a minor is highly disturbing to me.
But what are they re-living if the father and 2 of the 5 are saying they don't remember what happened?
This is what happens when you choose to sell your soul to the devil for millions. Sorry.
How about the embarrassment, humiliation, and unfortunately, the stigma that goes along with it. I am sure they are feeling that way, even if it's not right. As a mother of girls I would be FURIOUS if personal information about them got out of this nature, that was promised to be kept secret for their own sake. They probably don't want to talk about it but now they may feel they have to in order to defend their parents and brothers (Jessa already has). I just feel like people are taking the opportunity to burn the Duggars at the stake and are forgetting that all of this is probably hurting the girls the most. It isn't right, regardless of if they are tv. Our country loves to publicly shame, regardless of who it hurts.
And once again, I am not saying what Josh did is forgivable, or how the parents handled it was right, I am ONLY referring to the fact that the "Sealed" records of a minor were released to the MEDIA.
Those girls did NOT have to come out and have an interview. Their father has made them to try and keep the gravy train moving along.
It is a HORRIBLE thing that has happened but they are NOT choosing the right thing to do if they DID want to protect the girls and not have it come back to them again. Putting them out in the media AGAIN is NOT helping it. It is making it worse.
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