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GoldenRod
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GOP Healthcare bill
https://apnews.com/44ba3a859a76436aaef7f10cc328b482/GOP-bill-unlikely-to-settle-passionate-health-care-debate
It hasn't been run through the Congressional Budget Office yet, so people (including Congress) doesn't know what the estimated cost will be.
The bill will probably go through several iterations, and many changes before it even comes up for a vote.
Looking at both right-wing and left-wing sites, it doesn't look like anybody likes the latest proposal. It still keeps a lot of the ACA that Republicans don't like, but is also estimated to lose several million people who are currently covered. The current bill will probably cost more for lower-income people, and cost less for higher-income people and companies.
The real mark-ups and changes are supposed to start happening on Wednesday, so we'll see what happens....
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GoldenRod
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Standard & Poor (S&P) are estimating up to 10 million less people will be covered by insurance with the new "plan"....
https://www.globalcreditportal.com/ratingsdirect/renderArticle.do?articleId=1811131&SctArtId=418648&from=CM&nsl_code=LIME&sourceObjectId=10006958&sourceRevId=3&fee_ind=N&exp_date=20270307-22:26:18
The American Health Care Act (ACA replacement proposal), if signed into law, will fundamentally change federal financing of healthcare, especially for the Medicaid and individual insurance segments.
We expect a decline in enrollment in the individual (2 million–4 million) and Medicaid (4 million–6 million) segments, resulting in a decline in premiums.
Profitability will likely improve, as the replacement plan can result in an improved risk pool in the individual market.
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MrsT809
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GOP Healthcare bill
Can someone explain how the tax credit works? Are people who need to buy their own insurance paying a full price monthly premium and then getting $$ back in April?
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Pumpkin1
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GOP Healthcare bill
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
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RainyDay
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GOP Healthcare bill
Ok so how is this better than Obama care? This guy keeps promising the American people great healthcare yet all he does is make changes to the current healthcare system and then says he is open for suggestions as it's a work in progress. To me he's not keeping his campaign promises.
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GoldenRod
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by RainyDay
Ok so how is this better than Obama care? This guy keeps promising the American people great healthcare yet all he does is make changes to the current healthcare system and then says he is open for suggestions as it's a work in progress. To me he's not keeping his campaign promises.
This is how Congress is getting bi-partisan agreement across the aisle....
EVERYONE hates this new "plan". There is obvious dislike from the Democrats, but there are quite a few Republicans, the Health Care industry, and most people who thinks this is a terrible idea.
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GoldenRod
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
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Pumpkin1
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Personally, increasing the HSA amount is awesome news for me (especially with 2 or 3 kids needing braces) but I can afford it. What about people who cannot afford it? I mean, if people cannot afford the deductibles now with HSAs available, why does the GOP think increasing the HSA amount will make things better? If you don't have extra income, you can't contribute to an HSA (under the ACA or the GOP plan).
To me, this new plan seems to remove regulations from the insurance companies and large companies with the hope that those entities will lower costs but we all know how well that usually works.
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mommy2B3
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Are you sure that's true? I had an ACA plan for 2 years, along with my children, and I was not able to take advantage of an HSA.
And for the OP who asked about tax credits. The credits worked when you signed up, you put in all your information and it would tell you how much you had to pay, you could put off the tax incentive for a big check come tax time or you could take it monthly, or you could be like myself and not get any help and need to pay the premium in full every month, since my DH made too much, but his company (at the time, thankfully he took a new position) didn't offer family plans, they only paid for his personal insurance. So I paid a ridiculous amount a month for myself and at first 2 kids, then 3 kids. I paid double the amount then before the ACA rolled out and I had private insurance.
ETA: I hated the ACA, however I would rather a world where someone like my brother who had cancer at 28, can always receive healthcare, and not fear like he is now. So I'd rather pay more so everyone has a fair share.
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GoldenRod
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Are you sure that's true? I had an ACA plan for 2 years, along with my children, and I was not able to take advantage of an HSA.
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https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/health-savings-account-HSA/
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-and-hsas-for-2017/
For 2017 a Health Savings Account can be paired with any plan with an annual deductible of more than $1,300 for self-only coverage or $2,600 for family coverage, AKA any High Deductible Health Plan (the same was true for 2015 and 2016).
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Are you sure that's true? I had an ACA plan for 2 years, along with my children, and I was not able to take advantage of an HSA.
And for the OP who asked about tax credits. The credits worked when you signed up, you put in all your information and it would tell you how much you had to pay, you could put off the tax incentive for a big check come tax time or you could take it monthly, or you could be like myself and not get any help and need to pay the premium in full every month, since my DH made too much, but his company (at the time, thankfully he took a new position) didn't offer family plans, they only paid for his personal insurance. So I paid a ridiculous amount a month for myself and at first 2 kids, then 3 kids. I paid double the amount then before the ACA rolled out and I had private insurance.
ETA: I hated the ACA, however I would rather a world where someone like my brother who had cancer at 28, can always receive healthcare, and not fear like he is now. So I'd rather pay more so everyone has a fair share.
Thank you. But is that the current system you're describing which is a subsidy? I'm trying to understand the difference with the new proposal which is a tax credit as opposed to a subsidy from what I understand.
Like you, I'm lucky that it doesn't affect me much but many in my family do not receive insurance through an employer.
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GoldenRod
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Are you sure that's true? I had an ACA plan for 2 years, along with my children, and I was not able to take advantage of an HSA.
And for the OP who asked about tax credits. The credits worked when you signed up, you put in all your information and it would tell you how much you had to pay, you could put off the tax incentive for a big check come tax time or you could take it monthly, or you could be like myself and not get any help and need to pay the premium in full every month, since my DH made too much, but his company (at the time, thankfully he took a new position) didn't offer family plans, they only paid for his personal insurance. So I paid a ridiculous amount a month for myself and at first 2 kids, then 3 kids. I paid double the amount then before the ACA rolled out and I had private insurance.
ETA: I hated the ACA, however I would rather a world where someone like my brother who had cancer at 28, can always receive healthcare, and not fear like he is now. So I'd rather pay more so everyone has a fair share.
Thank you. But is that the current system you're describing which is a subsidy? I'm trying to understand the difference with the new proposal which is a tax credit as opposed to a subsidy from what I understand.
Like you, I'm lucky that it doesn't affect me much but many in my family do not receive insurance through an employer.
One of the things most Republicans don't like about the new plan is that the tax subsidies/credits are very similar to the ACA, which is something they didn't like before.
https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2017/03/06/us/politics/republican-obamacare-replacement.html
Premium subsidies
Change
ACA
Under the A.C.A., the federal government provides tax credits to middle-income Americans on a sliding scale according to income, to help offset the cost of premiums and deductibles.
New Plan
Changes the way subsidies will be distributed by using age, instead of income, as a way to calculate how much people will receive. Tax credits will be available in full to individuals earning less than $75,000 and households earning less than $150,000, but they will be capped for higher earners. For a person under 30, the subsidy would be $2,000, and double for people over 60. The bill also expands the type of health plans that qualify for subsidies.
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mommy2B3
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Are you sure that's true? I had an ACA plan for 2 years, along with my children, and I was not able to take advantage of an HSA.
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https://www.healthcare.gov/glossary/health-savings-account-HSA/
http://obamacarefacts.com/obamacare-and-hsas-for-2017/
For 2017 a Health Savings Account can be paired with any plan with an annual deductible of more than $1,300 for self-only coverage or $2,600 for family coverage, AKA any High Deductible Health Plan (the same was true for 2015 and 2016).
This is very interesting, I had an insurance broker and yet he told me I wasn't able to take advantage of this using ACA. I just read that many of the plans didn't state that you could, so it was rarely used. I think it's unfortunate that they didn't do a better job of announcing benefits like this. But I guess too little too late now with this guy who pretends he's going to make it better.
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mommy2B3
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Are you sure that's true? I had an ACA plan for 2 years, along with my children, and I was not able to take advantage of an HSA.
And for the OP who asked about tax credits. The credits worked when you signed up, you put in all your information and it would tell you how much you had to pay, you could put off the tax incentive for a big check come tax time or you could take it monthly, or you could be like myself and not get any help and need to pay the premium in full every month, since my DH made too much, but his company (at the time, thankfully he took a new position) didn't offer family plans, they only paid for his personal insurance. So I paid a ridiculous amount a month for myself and at first 2 kids, then 3 kids. I paid double the amount then before the ACA rolled out and I had private insurance.
ETA: I hated the ACA, however I would rather a world where someone like my brother who had cancer at 28, can always receive healthcare, and not fear like he is now. So I'd rather pay more so everyone has a fair share.
Thank you. But is that the current system you're describing which is a subsidy? I'm trying to understand the difference with the new proposal which is a tax credit as opposed to a subsidy from what I understand.
Like you, I'm lucky that it doesn't affect me much but many in my family do not receive insurance through an employer.
I can't say for sure. I've seen too many differences on what these new plans state. I read this morning that even if your low income, if you don't pick specific plans, you won't even qualify for a tax credit. From what I've read it seems that it would be a monthly premium and then a tax credit during tax season, which honestly sucks for people who can't afford the monthly premium. I'm noticing he's not changing anything that was bad to good, but changing the good stuff to bad.
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Chai77
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
More costs for lower income people and less for higher income and companies? Sounds just about right in this GOP universe.
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JennP
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
There are conservative principles that I can respect and see the logic of even if I most likely disagree.
But this, this right here, I will NEVER understand.
Posted by Chai77
More costs for lower income people and less for higher income and companies? Sounds just about right in this GOP universe.
How can anyone see the logic, justice, and morality of taking MORE from the poor to give to the RICH?
HOW?
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by JennP
There are conservative principles that I can respect and see the logic of even if I most likely disagree.
But this, this right here, I will NEVER understand.
Posted by Chai77
More costs for lower income people and less for higher income and companies? Sounds just about right in this GOP universe.
How can anyone see the logic, justice, and morality of taking MORE from the poor to give to the RICH?
HOW?
The bill should be named "The Corporate and Upper Class Tax Cut that includes provisions on healthcare."
It's like the GOP is not even hiding the fact it doesn't give a rat's ass about the poor or middle class anymore.
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LSP2005
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Why don't we just give everyone the Congressional Healthcare plan they have for themselves?
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GoldenRod
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by JennP
There are conservative principles that I can respect and see the logic of even if I most likely disagree.
But this, this right here, I will NEVER understand.
Posted by Chai77
More costs for lower income people and less for higher income and companies? Sounds just about right in this GOP universe.
How can anyone see the logic, justice, and morality of taking MORE from the poor to give to the RICH?
HOW?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-tax-cut_us_58c1632be4b0ed71826a773d?
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Wednesday said he’s “not that concerned” about criticism of the wealthy getting a tax cut under the GOP’s new health care bill.
Fox News host Tucker Carlson told Ryan it’s “kind of a hard sell” to argue the wealthy should get a tax cut under the American Health Care Act. Ryan brushed it off.
“I’m not that concerned about it, because we said we were going to repeal all the Obamacare taxes,” Ryan said. “This is one of the Obamacare taxes.”
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He's not that concerned?... of course not... his rich buddies get more money... 
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by JennP
There are conservative principles that I can respect and see the logic of even if I most likely disagree.
But this, this right here, I will NEVER understand.
Posted by Chai77
More costs for lower income people and less for higher income and companies? Sounds just about right in this GOP universe.
How can anyone see the logic, justice, and morality of taking MORE from the poor to give to the RICH?
HOW?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-tax-cut_us_58c1632be4b0ed71826a773d?
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Wednesday said he’s “not that concerned” about criticism of the wealthy getting a tax cut under the GOP’s new health care bill.
Fox News host Tucker Carlson told Ryan it’s “kind of a hard sell” to argue the wealthy should get a tax cut under the American Health Care Act. Ryan brushed it off.
“I’m not that concerned about it, because we said we were going to repeal all the Obamacare taxes,” Ryan said. “This is one of the Obamacare taxes.”
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He's not that concerned?... of course not... his rich buddies get more money...
And more money for him! Ryan married into money and is worth $8M give or take. I never realized how horrible Ryan was until this last election cycle (and obviously since Trump has taken office).
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MrsT809
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by MrsT809
Posted by mommy2B3
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSAs are definitely a part of the ACA, but the new "plan" increases the amounts you can put in.
All an HSA is is a discount on medical cost. If you pay income tax, the HSA is tax-free money you set aside. I go through my HSA account maximums in just a few months. It's definitely not a solution, since I'm still paying for medical costs out of my own pocket, just with a discount. (Which definitely helps, but it's not a solution)
Are you sure that's true? I had an ACA plan for 2 years, along with my children, and I was not able to take advantage of an HSA.
And for the OP who asked about tax credits. The credits worked when you signed up, you put in all your information and it would tell you how much you had to pay, you could put off the tax incentive for a big check come tax time or you could take it monthly, or you could be like myself and not get any help and need to pay the premium in full every month, since my DH made too much, but his company (at the time, thankfully he took a new position) didn't offer family plans, they only paid for his personal insurance. So I paid a ridiculous amount a month for myself and at first 2 kids, then 3 kids. I paid double the amount then before the ACA rolled out and I had private insurance.
ETA: I hated the ACA, however I would rather a world where someone like my brother who had cancer at 28, can always receive healthcare, and not fear like he is now. So I'd rather pay more so everyone has a fair share.
Thank you. But is that the current system you're describing which is a subsidy? I'm trying to understand the difference with the new proposal which is a tax credit as opposed to a subsidy from what I understand.
Like you, I'm lucky that it doesn't affect me much but many in my family do not receive insurance through an employer.
I can't say for sure. I've seen too many differences on what these new plans state. I read this morning that even if your low income, if you don't pick specific plans, you won't even qualify for a tax credit. From what I've read it seems that it would be a monthly premium and then a tax credit during tax season, which honestly sucks for people who can't afford the monthly premium. I'm noticing he's not changing anything that was bad to good, but changing the good stuff to bad.
Finally found the answer. To answer my own question, the credit is "advanceable" do people don't have to wait until they file their taxes to receive the credit. So that's one decent thing.
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by JennP
There are conservative principles that I can respect and see the logic of even if I most likely disagree.
But this, this right here, I will NEVER understand.
Posted by Chai77
More costs for lower income people and less for higher income and companies? Sounds just about right in this GOP universe.
How can anyone see the logic, justice, and morality of taking MORE from the poor to give to the RICH?
HOW?
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/paul-ryan-tax-cut_us_58c1632be4b0ed71826a773d?
House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-Wis.) on Wednesday said he’s “not that concerned” about criticism of the wealthy getting a tax cut under the GOP’s new health care bill.
Fox News host Tucker Carlson told Ryan it’s “kind of a hard sell” to argue the wealthy should get a tax cut under the American Health Care Act. Ryan brushed it off.
“I’m not that concerned about it, because we said we were going to repeal all the Obamacare taxes,” Ryan said. “This is one of the Obamacare taxes.”
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He's not that concerned?... of course not... his rich buddies get more money...
Didn't we all see this coming with the Trump administration? The poor gets poorer and the rich get richer. Trumpcare will literally be killing the poor.
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Chai77
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Yeah, Paul Ryan is a rich bast@rd who can't even be bothered to pretend he cares about the American people unless you are a rich bast@rd like him.
Beyond these horror show politicians, it really saddens me that the people voting in these scumbags evidently have such distain for their fellow man.
I'm a progressive and proud to say I would GLADLY pay significantly more taxes so that you, me, our children of all colors/religions and in all our communities have universal healthcare. Healthcare is a right, not a privilege!
I can't stand what is happening to our once great country. It was great until November 2016. 
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mnmsoinlove
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by Pumpkin1
I understand that Trump is pushing for Health Savings Accounts, which currently are tied to High Deductible Policies. Are HSAs not available for policies issued under Obamacare?
HSA are NOT a good option for the middle class or low income families. I have an HSA/ high deductible plan now and it's insane. Not only do I pay for my monthly insurance we have lay out the first 5k just to reach our deductible. Just taking my kids to the pediatrician cost me $220 every time. Just had to see a neurologist at my consultation appointment was $550. Luckily we can afford this but people who work at my dh job at entry level positions can't afford it. So how does being ale to put higher amounts in a HSA help these people when they can't save a dollar now. What is going to happen when there people can't pay their medical bills? Or delay going to the Dr because they know they are going to get a big bill? HSA work for the rich.
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RainyDay
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Re: GOP Healthcare bill
Posted by Chai77
Yeah, Paul Ryan is a rich bast@rd who can't even be bothered to pretend he cares about the American people unless you are a rich bast@rd like him.
Beyond these horror show politicians, it really saddens me that the people voting in these scumbags evidently have such distain for their fellow man.
I'm a progressive and proud to say I would GLADLY pay significantly more taxes so that you, me, our children of all colors/religions and in all our communities have universal healthcare. Healthcare is a right, not a privilege!
I can't stand what is happening to our once great country. It was great until November 2016.
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