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SweetTooth
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Gov. Paterson's budget...
What do we all think?
No STAR rebate checks. Higher taxes on soda? Cutting back aid to schools?
Paterson Unveils Plan for Closing Budget Deficit By DANNY HAKIM
ALBANY — Gov. David A. Paterson’s administration unveiled an austerity budget on Tuesday that laid out a painful plan to close the largest deficit in the state’s history, including 137 new or increased taxes and fees and what is sure to be a controversial reckoning with the state’s workforce.
Education aid would be particularly hard hit, with an actual cut of $700 million in state education aid next year, not just a reduction of projected spending growth. Increased aid for operating expenses and pre-kindergarten that had been expected as part of the settlement of a long-running lawsuit of school aid would be delayed by four years under the plan.
Medicaid spending would not be as hard hit; it would still rise by about 1 percent under the plan, although the projected increase for hospitals, nursing homes and other health care providers would be cut by more than $1 billion.
The governor’s spending plan also calls for eliminating or merging seven smaller state agencies, cancel property tax rebate checks, curtail general municipal aid to New York City and close 13 prison camps or detention centers.
“Adjusting our state budget to reflect this new fiscal environment will be an extraordinary challenge,” Mr. Paterson, a Democrat, said in a statement, adding that his budget “begins the difficult process of fundamentally re-evaluating both how we manage government and what the state can afford to spend in a time of plummeting revenue.”
The total state budget, including federal matching funds, would be $121.1 billion under the plan. Spending of state funds would increase by only half a percent under the plan, a turnabout from years of spending rates well above inflation.
Mr. Paterson’s plan would close a $15.4 billion deficit for the balance of this fiscal year, which ends on March 31 of next year, and the following fiscal year. He is introducing his budget more than a month early as the state grapples with a twin calamity — the collapse of its main financial engine, Wall Street, and a deepening recession.
Mr. Paterson’s budget is sure to touch off a contentious fight with the State Legislature, which must approve his budget, and with labor unions across the state that have strong ties to legislators. Negotiations will be hampered by the fact that no clear leader has emerged to guide the Senate next year after last month’s elections left Democrats with a narrow, one seat majority in the chamber.
“It’s an illustration of just how difficult the situation is with the economy and the budget deficit,” said James Tedisco, the leader of the Assembly Republican caucus.
“The good is that he is holding the line on spending,” Mr. Tedisco added. “The bad is that there are $4 billion in new taxes and fees and that will hit the middle class right in the solar plexus.”
While there were no broad-based income tax increases, there were all manner of new taxes, fees, fines or other assessments, expected to raise $4 billion next year.
The new taxes are likely to touch almost every New Yorker in some way and potentially every day, if you like Coke or Pepsi.
The most notable new tax was an 18 percent levy on sugary, non-diet soft drinks. But there were many others. A tax on car rentals would rise to 6 percent from 5 percent. Taxes on beer and wine would more than double. Licensing fees would increase for private investigators, barbers, bail enforcement agents, home inspectors, notary publics and cosmetologists.
Taxes on gasoline, cable TV, satellite television and radio service, cigars, flavored malt beverages would also increase. And the cost of owning and operating a car would also increase significantly, with 16 fee increases for the Division of Motor Vehicles.
While there was no increase in income taxes on the wealthy, as has been pushed by Assembly Democrats, the state expects to raise $120 million next year by limiting the amount of money that millionaires can deduct from their state taxes.
Mr. Paterson also proposed that the state should begin to take the kind of steps that Detroit automakers and other corporations began to take with their unionized workers years ago.
His proposals include 521 layoffs — a modest figure in a workforce of almost 200,000. But he would also eliminate a scheduled 3 percent salary increase for state workers, increase retiree contributions for health care coverage and have state workers defer a week’s pay until they retire. He would also like to create a pension classification for new employees that does not have many of the attractive features that current state workers enjoy. Among other things, it would restore the minimum retirement age to 62 instead of 55.
Unions were bracing for a battle.
On Tuesday morning, before the governor had even spoken, the Web site of the Civil Service Employees Association called Mr. Paterson’s budget “possibly the worst in recent history” that “will hit working New Yorkers hardest.”
In a joint statement, George Gresham, the president of 1199 S.E.I.U. United Healthcare Workers East, and Ken Raske, president of the Greater New York Hospital Association, said “these are staggering cuts that would shatter New York’s health care infrastructure, severely threaten the ability of patients to get access to care, and cause serious harm to communities across the entire state.”
Mr. Paterson, for his part, said his plan “seeks shared sacrifice” and “includes reductions across virtually every area of government.”
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Posted 12/16/08 12:15 PM |
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
well I don't think anyone was going to like it.
here's to getting through this crisis and coming out the other side!
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Posted 12/16/08 12:17 PM |
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NinaLemon
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
hmmm, NY is already one of the most expensive states to live in, how many more taxes can we add?
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Posted 12/16/08 12:24 PM |
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evnme
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
i posted about this yesterday link
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Posted 12/16/08 12:26 PM |
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LittleBlueBug
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
I think I'm moving. This place is too expensive as is...one more young professional, gone from LI...
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Posted 12/16/08 12:56 PM |
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Mommy2Boys
My Boys!!!!
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by NinaLemon
hmmm, NY is already one of the most expensive states to live in, how many more taxes can we add?
ITA!!! Peope can barely afford it as it is.
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Posted 12/16/08 1:37 PM |
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MikesWife
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
There's going to be a mass exit of the youth.
Its become increasingly difficult to start a life and family here.
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Posted 12/16/08 1:40 PM |
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lovemy2boys
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by MikesWife
There's going to be a mass exit of the youth.
Its become increasingly difficult to start a life and family here.
exactly! and if he takes away the star rebate your talking an increase upward of 1200 bucks a year!
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Posted 12/16/08 2:53 PM |
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nov04libride
big brother <3
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Well, good luck to him; he's asking my union to give up a contractual increase that we already made concessions to guarantee.
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Posted 12/16/08 3:00 PM |
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Jonsgirl04
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
I just think its ridiculous!! I am seriuosly thinking about moving to another state. There is no way me and my Dh can afford to live here. Rent is ridiculous!! ALmost the same as some people mortgages!! If people cant afford to buy a house they need to lower the rent!! Where do they want us to live on the streets!!
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Posted 12/16/08 3:08 PM |
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luckyinlove
I love my baby girls!
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
The retirement age would go from 55 to 62? That is crazy! So, if you are supposed to work for 30 years, and you started at age 22, now you have to work 40 years before you can retire? Am I understanding this? I hope not!
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Posted 12/16/08 3:20 PM |
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CathyB
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
I don't like it, but what is he supposed to do? A large chunk of the state funding came from taxing the big Wall St bonuses. Those are gone. He has to make up the shortfall somewhere.
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Posted 12/16/08 3:22 PM |
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MegZee
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by krissy888
Posted by MikesWife
There's going to be a mass exit of the youth.
Its become increasingly difficult to start a life and family here.
exactly! and if he takes away the star rebate your talking an increase upward of 1200 bucks a year!
He isn't taking away the star tax deduction - he is taking away the additional check you get in october that was started in 2006 by Pataki.
The $500 or so I would get in October was nice, but its good we are keeping our star deductions!
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Posted 12/16/08 3:38 PM |
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mikeswife06
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
And I saw on the news that the top 3 places he is going to put more money into is: welfare, health care for the poor, and veteran's services.
I'm sorry but WTH? What about the working generation? NY is really getting crazy. I wish I would've listened to my DH and moved out of state in 2006 instead of buying an outrageously priced house here that we are stuck with now.
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Posted 12/16/08 3:50 PM |
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lovemy2boys
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by Meaghan729
Posted by krissy888
Posted by MikesWife
There's going to be a mass exit of the youth.
Its become increasingly difficult to start a life and family here.
exactly! and if he takes away the star rebate your talking an increase upward of 1200 bucks a year!
He isn't taking away the star tax deduction - he is taking away the additional check you get in october that was started in 2006 by Pataki.
The $500 or so I would get in October was nice, but its good we are keeping our star deductions!
Oh Thanks for Clarifying!
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Posted 12/16/08 5:19 PM |
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LadyH
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
I'm probably getting laid off because of these cuts.
I really liked my job too.
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Posted 12/16/08 9:27 PM |
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itkocak
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Message edited 11/22/2011 9:27:36 PM.
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Posted 12/16/08 9:31 PM |
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LINewbie
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
I really should have gotten out wile I could!!!
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Posted 12/16/08 11:31 PM |
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PotofLuck06
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by nov04libride
Well, good luck to him; he's asking my union to give up a contractual increase that we already made concessions to guarantee.
Let's hope our union sticks up for all of us! We need those raises in order to survive living on LI!
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Posted 12/17/08 11:07 AM |
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HoneyBadger
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by imthekevinofcindyandkevin
honestly, I don't think most of it will pass JMO
I hope.
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Posted 12/17/08 11:18 AM |
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Gertyrae
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Even if it does pass, I honestly think it's not a bad plan. Taxes are mostly being raised on luxury items, not necessities. It makes it optional for people to pay the taxes. The STAR exemptions are staying in place and income tax isn't going to be drastically raised. As another poster said, the money has to come from somewhere and at least he's making it an optional somewhere.
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Posted 12/17/08 11:21 AM |
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Cpt2007
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by Gertyrae
Even if it does pass, I honestly think it's not a bad plan. Taxes are mostly being raised on luxury items, not necessities. It makes it optional for people to pay the taxes. The STAR exemptions are staying in place and income tax isn't going to be drastically raised. As another poster said, the money has to come from somewhere and at least he's making it an optional somewhere.
I agree. And honestly, a lot of younger, ex-NY'ers like myself and my husband are now thinking of coming back and moving Upstate, where there are growing opportunities. I know that the cost of living on LI is egregious, but until the root of those problems are addressed, it's not going to get better.
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Posted 12/17/08 12:33 PM |
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mikeandjess
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
To put it nicely, Gov. Paterson can blow me.
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Posted 12/17/08 1:36 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Is he trying to fix the entire deficit in one year? Why not cut it significantly each year for 4 or 5 years. That way, the cuts and taxes aren't as drastic.
Unless I'm misreading it.
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Posted 12/17/08 1:40 PM |
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PotofLuck06
Our Baby Boy Is Here!!!
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Re: Gov. Paterson's budget...
Posted by SweetTooth
His proposals include 521 layoffs — a modest figure in a workforce of almost 200,000. But he would also eliminate a scheduled 3 percent salary increase for state workers, increase retiree contributions for health care coverage and have state workers defer a week’s pay until they retire. He would also like to create a pension classification for new employees that does not have many of the attractive features that current state workers enjoy. Among other things, it would restore the minimum retirement age to 62 instead of 55.
Unions were bracing for a battle.
I'd like to know where these positions are that he's eliminating! And Newsday today stated a much larger number to be layed off.
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Posted 12/17/08 1:43 PM |
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