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mitabtrfly
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Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Just to give a little history..my son is 16 years old and currently has a girlfriend who is 14. I don't have a problem with it..but what I do have a problem with is the fact that he is neglecting all of his responsibilities to be on the phone for hours with this girl. It's almost like he eats, sh**s, breathes her. I had to take his cell phone away because I got a bill for $300 for one month because they just don't stop calling each other. I thought that would help..but it hasn't. He recently told me since his phone was taken away she calls all of his friends to "check" on him while they are in school?? I don't agree with that. While he thinks it's cute, I think it's stalkerish and she should not be concerned with what he is doing in school, because they BOTH should be learning. He goes to an all boys school, and her all girls..so I really don't see the point in calling while in school or calling his friends cell phones at that. I asked him to talk to her, because she has no business calling their phone at all.
So..we had it out last night because I've noticed when he comes home from school sometimes he'll say hello, or sometimes he doesn't. He'll just come in go to his room drop his book bag off, come back out grab the phone and go back in. I have to call him 2 or 3 times for dinner and he will hang up the phone, come eat (sometimes) and then go back in the room with the phone. I have to remind him to walk the dog, do his chores, clean his room and sometimes he is on the phone passed 11 or even hides it in his room. I've missed important phone calls because of this as well. He also has been copping an attitude with DH (who is his stepfather) for no reason, and never wants to talk to me in front of him which I don't agree with at all. We are a family, and if he needs/wants to tell me something he can tell me in front of him as well. BUT..he thinks/feels it's none of his business and that pisses me off. He has never expressed that he doesn't like DH, if anything it's always been the complete opposite, but lately, I just don't know what is up with him disrespecting the both of us the way he does.
While I completely understand what it is/was to be a teenager in that "puppy love" state, I don't like the fact that this girl ..well both of them are so clingy with each other. It's over the top and ridiculous!
I also am having a hard time with the fact that she is 14 years old and expressing things that are hinting towards having "sex". While I do not think my son is 100% innocent, I can't help but feel like she is pushing the subject WAY too much and it scares me because she's only 14. I've seen letters she's written to him (which he showed me) and was quite shocked at what I was reading. She's invited him to her house when her parents aren't home..and I don't agree with that at all. I know kids will be kids...BUT the main reason I have a problem with this is because last July my son was talking with a girl he liked, and she invited him and a friend over to watch a movie in the middle of the night. He had spent the night in his friends house and they thought it would be fun. To make a long story short... they were only watching a movie, the father ended up coming down and yelling at his daughter, and my son was in the bathroom and decided to be quiet so he wouldn't know he was there. End result...his friend ran home, and my son stood in the bathroom and heard fighting..and the next thing you know..someone got shot. This girl shot herself in front of her father..and died. Thank god nothing happened to my son, but he heard when she did it and didn't realize what had happened. It took a LONG time for him and us and the family to adjust to what had happened. By no means was it my sons fault...but I still have that etched in my head..had he not gone over..maybe it wouldn't have happened. I know it may have happened with someone else, but at least it wouldn't have affected us directly the way this did. I loved this girl...but she obviously had issues, and the last thing I want right now is to have him go through something like that again..hence why I don't want him in anyone's house when the parents are not home, especially a girl!
To make this REALLY long story short..the conversation/argument ended with both of us in tears..and him not understanding why I was/am so upset.
What to do??
**UPDATE*** To top it off..I just got a phone call from his teacher who says he has not been bringing in his homework and when the teacher told him he would have to stay after school, he told him he was NOT going to. WHY?? Because he picks up this F***IN girl from school!!!!!!!!! The teacher even went so far as to say that he thinks he's been bitten by the love bug...because he sees him with a girl outside all the time.
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Posted 5/9/07 10:02 AM |
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long)
I am so so sorry you are going through this ...... and now I am panicked about becoming a mom!! It must be so hard at this age.
I really think you MUST get FAMILY counseling. Nothing good is going to come of this obsessive relationship, and you need to put your foot down. We were given a max. of one hour phone time when I was in my teens. He needs to have limits and they need to be reasonable but reinforced. I think conseling can help you all deal with whatever he is going through - there may be more there than meets the eye.
Good luck!!
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long)
I agree with the above post.....go to counseling with him and set some rules.
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ARIELSMOM
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long)
a lot of it sounds like typical teenage behavior (talking on the phone, attitudes, girls). I dont have a teenager, but it wasnt all that long ago that i was one. I think the best thing to do is to try to keep open communication, and keep talking to him about her. Maybe cut the phone off at 9:30pm, so he isnt on the phone till 11? 14 is too young to be having sex, but its going to be hard to stop them if thats what they are going to do. I guess telling him how important protection is, and about teenage pregnancy/diseases. They probably dont want to hear it, and think they already know everything, but its worth trying. I am soo not looking foward to the teenage years with my kids....Hang in there...
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mitabtrfly
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Posted by karacg
I am so so sorry you are going through this ...... and now I am panicked about becoming a mom!! It must be so hard at this age.
I really think you MUST get FAMILY counseling. Nothing good is going to come of this obsessive relationship, and you need to put your foot down. We were given a max. of one hour phone time when I was in my teens. He needs to have limits and they need to be reasonable but reinforced. I think conseling can help you all deal with whatever he is going through - there may be more there than meets the eye.
Good luck!!
He went for counseling after this thing happened with the girl last Summer and did really well. It's recently, since he became involved that his attitude etc has changed.
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karacg
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Posted by mitabtrfly
He went for counseling after this thing happened with the girl last Summer and did really well. It's recently, since he became involved that his attitude etc has changed.
I would say -- all the more reason to go back! And involve the family too.
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long)
I'm so sorry
16 is a tough age. I was a perfect angel until i hit 16, i swear my mom must have screamed at me so many times that it would be my fault if they got divorced since my antics got my parents arguing so much.
I had limits, rules and regulations, of course that i was rebelling against, but my parents pushed the issue hence causing the fighting..
My parents even went as far as to take my bedroom door off so I wouldn't have privacy as punishment. They even called the cops on me when i didn't come home by curfew and wasn't answering my pages.
I think puppy love is so overwhelming for teens, new feelings, new emotions and not being mature to deal with them yet.
I'd keep the lines of communication open, i could go to my dad but not my mom-reason why they fought, I don't think it's wrong for him to want his mom's confidence and it's great he comes to you.
If you keep pushing him, he will feel he can't go to you and you won't know anything.
Have you met this girls parents yet? If not you should.
At 14 I would never be able to date a boy older than me, let alone unsupervised. I wasn't even allowed in boys cars until i was 18.
ETA: Just read the update...He needs some tough love, rules and regulations that you need to be consistent with. PUppy love is one thing, but now it's interfering with school and that's unacceptable.
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ARIELSMOM
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Posted by ARIELSMOM
a lot of it sounds like typical teenage behavior (talking on the phone, attitudes, girls). I dont have a teenager, but it wasnt all that long ago that i was one. I think the best thing to do is to try to keep open communication, and keep talking to him about her. Maybe cut the phone off at 9:30pm, so he isnt on the phone till 11? 14 is too young to be having sex, but its going to be hard to stop them if thats what they are going to do. I guess telling him how important protection is, and about teenage pregnancy/diseases. They probably dont want to hear it, and think they already know everything, but its worth trying. I am soo not looking foward to the teenage years with my kids....Hang in there...
I just read the update...thats not cool. talk to him, and follow through with a punishment(no phone, or g/f for a week?) its so hard b/c you dont want them to shut you out. Good luck!!
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Maybe I'm being unrealistic, but at this point with the issues he's having at home and now that it's affecting his school work, the first thing I would do is revoke phone priviledges at home.
No more phone at all until the school issue is resolved.
Also, how is he picking up this girl after school? Does he have his own car?
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curliegirl
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Sorry for all your drama, sounds like tennage love though.
I DO also think that maybe he is so protective of this girl because of what happened with the other girl last summer. I'm no shrink, but maybe he needs to be in constant contact with her to make sure she is OK?
Maybe revisiting the counseling might help.......Good Luck!
See what we all have to look forward to
P.S. That story from last summer really jarred me, that's crazy!
ETA: Phones are allowed in schools? That's nuts because when I was in private school we couldn't even have beepers in the building!!! I guess I'm showing my age here...
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mitabtrfly
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Posted by leighla
Maybe I'm being unrealistic, but at this point with the issues he's having at home and now that it's affecting his school work, the first thing I would do is revoke phone priviledges at home.
No more phone at all until the school issue is resolved.
Also, how is he picking up this girl after school? Does he have his own car?
Her school is a couple of blocks down (unfortunately). It's been almost a ritual for years that the boys hang out around their school and vice versa. My H.S. boyfriend went to the same school my son attends and it was the same way back then. So..since the boys get out earlier..they walk over to the girls school and wait for them to come out. He also catches the bus near where her school is also.
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
M- I'm so so so so sorry you have to go through this, especially being 6 months pregnant.
Being your son has asked to spend some special time with you before the baby, and you have a special weekend coming up... perhaps that would be a great opportunity alone for the both of you. While I agree that your DH, his stepfather, is part of your family and your son should be able to speak freely to you in front of him, sounds like he is reaching out to you alone at the moment. I think the best thing you can do for him is be there and keep stressing to him how much you love him and this is why you are now going to enforce the "rules". Set some serious guideines (phone is limited to 1 hour and ONLY after all homework is done). If he abides by these rules, maybe you'll increase it to 2 hours... something he would have to "earn".
I am more than sorry your son had to go through the trama of last summer. Of course it wasn't his fault, but to even be there and hear it must have been a tramatic experience.
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mitabtrfly
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Posted by curliegirl
Sorry for all your drama, sounds like tennage love though.
I DO also think that maybe he is so protective of this girl because of what happened with the other girl last summer. I'm no shrink, but maybe he needs to be in constant contact with her to make sure she is OK?
Maybe revisiting the counseling might help.......Good Luck!
See what we all have to look forward to
P.S. That story from last summer really jarred me, that's crazy!
ETA: Phones are allowed in schools? That's nuts because when I was in private school we couldn't even have beepers in the building!!! I guess I'm showing my age here...
The school doesn't allow them to use their phones in school, but they all have them. My son doesn't have his..since I took it away, but I'm sure he uses his friends phone.
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
My brother was the same way with his ex-girlfriend except he was 17 when they started dating and they were together for 2 years. It was ridicolous what he did for her. So even though he was my brother I do understand your concerns for him completely.
I think you need to speak to her parents. Besides making phone restrictions I also think you should limit how often they see each other. I do agree with other posters that part of it is his age and it starts now up until they are about 18/19 years old but you are still his mother and he still needs boundaries and rules and needs to follow them.
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
I am sorry that you are having a rough tiem with your son. I remember when i was 16 and kinda rebellious. I remember you telling this story last year about what happened with that girl.
You are right kids will be kids and right now he is probably in love. I am not a parent yet but I can say that you did the right think by having an open talk with him.
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mitabtrfly
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Posted by Seles81
My brother was the same way with his ex-girlfriend except he was 17 when they started dating and they were together for 2 years. It was ridicolous what he did for her. So even though he was my brother I do understand your concerns for him completely.
I think you need to speak to her parents. Besides making phone restrictions I also think you should limit how often they see each other. I do agree with other posters that part of it is his age and it starts now up until they are about 18/19 years old but you are still his mother and he still needs boundaries and rules and needs to follow them.
I actually just got back from my "Mothers Group" at work and vented some more. It was also suggested that I meet with the parents as well..and I really like that idea. I don't know if her parents are feeling the same way I am, so I think this would be good, and boundaries do need to be set defenitely at home and with them as well.
Thanks so much ladies for ALL of your helpful words/advice..I really do appreciate it!
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Re: Had a bad night with my son...(sorry but this is long) UPDATE - this is UNREAL
Hang in there! As the Mom of two girls that are later teen, young adult 20's I thought I wouldn't survive their teen years w/ boys! It can be stressful you just need to try to stay as aware if what he is doing w/o invading his space too much. Real easy! lol For me raising my step sons was less stressful!
Eta I had a really hard time with my oldest DD in her teen years. It's those raging hormones I had a contract with her what was acceptable and what was not.
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