How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

I think its happened at least twice. There is a little boy who is rather unruly. He is in 1st grade. AJ told me that he was in her class because he was acting like a baby so he was sent to the baby class.

Later my husband heard about the boy in her class that was 'visiting again'?

Each time AJ tells us about him she knows his name and class and is clear that he is in trouble which is why he's in there.

So my question is.. How would you feel if you knew there was a 1st grader, who obviously had disciplinary issues, in the class with your Kindergartner?

I am wondering if I shouldn't call up and speak with the principal or just let it go. Its not daily but its apparently frequent enough that is 'normal'.

Then again I wonder if its disruptive to have the class interrupted while this child is brought in and how the teacher's focus is now altered because he's in there. Is that fair to my own child?

I'm not up in arms about this, just wanted your thoughts.

Re: How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

I would be more pissed off if I was the parent of the first grader. It wouldn't hurt to call to see what the deal is IMHO.

Message edited 3/5/2014 10:13:51 AM.

Re: How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

There are limited ways teachers can punish kids. They can't be made to sit in a corner, they can't be yelled at.

Poor teacher must be going nuts with him & I bet she (or her assistant) just walks him into the class as punishment and says something like "this in Johnny class, he's been acting like a baby and so is coming to the baby class". He may be there for half a minute...

It sounds kinda ... but I can imagine it working for an unruly kid. Hope his parents know.

How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

Yeah.. there is the flip side. Hubby and I looked at each other and agreed if AJ was ever put into a lower grade class as punishment we'd be mighty upset.

I saw him this morning. He's a boy.. what can I say? Sure he's a little over the top. He is bigger than most boys and its possible he was held back (something that is becoming a BIG no no here in TX due to red-shirting). Still I don't see him being outrageously out of hand by comparison to any of the others in the place. But he is big enough that the kindergartners are easily dwarfed by him and he is rather intimidating to them. Then I realize he isn't bullying but they could bully him by teasing him he's in the class to start with!

I asked if any other friends 'visited' her class and she said no.. only XXX.

However after starting the year with 26 students they were reformed into 20 then given 2 more children. When I asked why the teacher was clear to me that those two children were difficult in other classes and since she was a 4th grade teacher last year, they felt she was better equipped to deal with them. Without putting it in words you could tell she was not happy about it.

They are looking for more teachers all the time. Plus they just build a HUGE middle school next to us (I mean seriously large) which they are staffing and already know they are over capacity and it hasn't even OPENED?!

Ugh. I feel for the educators.

Message edited 3/5/2014 11:26:02 AM.

Re: How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

I wouldn't say a thing. I mean, I'd ask my kid if the older boy was distracting her class, etc. and if the answer is no, what's the difference, kwim? I can't see two teachers and the administration thinking it was a good idea to take him out of his own class where he's being a distraction and allowing him to disrupt another class. I'm sure the K teacher wouldn't stand for that for one minute.

If my kid was the first grader and he was the behavioral issue and sent down, I'd say "Good!"

Message edited 3/5/2014 11:26:42 AM.

How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

I wouldn't say anything , but it seems like an odd, not particularly effective way to punish a child.

Re: How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

My thought is that the 1st grade teacher was taking the boy out of the room since whatever he was doing was to get attention from his peers. Take away his peers and the behavior stops. The 1st grader won't do what he was doing in his room in your daughter's K room because he doesn't want their attention. My guess is that he was there for 5-10 minutes and then left. Sometimes certain kids need that break to refocus themselves and get back on track. As long as your daughter didn't seem upset or distracted by it, I wouldn't worry.

Re: How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

Years ago when I was a classroom teacher I saw this happen many times, I honestly never gave it a second thought, sometimes children are extremely disruptive to a class as a teacher your hands are really tied discipline wise. The child usually went to the other class and stopped the behavior. Yes there is a little bit of embarrassment going on which of course

How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

Sometimes it's all we have! I have sent kids to their previous years teacher. Our hands are tied. Trust me, they don't want to go back to their old teacher (who they hold in high regard) and tell them why they need to spend some time in that class.

Re: How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

I wouldn't think any thing of it. I have a teacher friend that made a first grader go to the k class Bc he was misbehaving. His parents came to school and told her off what can a teacher do if parents come screaming and yelling

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I don't think it's appropriate for the boy or the younger kids. The boy is being humiliated by being called a baby in front of an entire classroom. If I were his parent I'd be so angry. Also I think it sets a bad example for kids saying it's ok to call someone a name. If the child is acting out he shouldn't be made to act out in another classroom as well. I would bring it up to the teacher and ask what is really going on. If it's true that they call this boy a baby in front of other students I would go to the principal to me it's not appropriate.

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To be honest, if he isn't disrupting the K class or interfering with my child's learning then I really don't see the point in contacting anyone. That is the parents decision and I am sure they are aware of this.

My son was acting like a nut in the beginning of the school year and I threatened to send him pre-k. He would be taken out of the class and sent to principals office.

Anyway, you don't know the situation of the child in question. He also could be on the younger side. My son will be 5 when he starts 1st grade. Since this happened a few times, maybe with the permission of his parents this is an effective form of punishments. Some kids are very smart and manipulative.

Message edited 3/5/2014 8:52:50 PM.

How would you feel (and teachers is this normal) 1st grader with kinder class

There is a multitude of reasons why they are using this "punishment" technique. The child could have a BIP and that is what it says. Maybe the other teacher calms him down quickly. Who knows. If it is not your child and does not affect your child then don't worry about it.