Ok, I'm the biggest dork. I do not deny! So I was not finding the arm band thing workable for me. I have a sansa sandisk and it would flop around. So I started sticking it in my waistband. But it was soaked by the time I was done. Well, the plastic case was soaked. And it sorta hurt. So I got to thinking. and I thought. And I thought. And then I had an a-ha! moment. I took a heavy duty binder clip and was able to clip the case to my waistband. Allafrigginlula!!! Chat Icon