| Posted By |
Message |
Shopaholic921
SUP..
Member since 10/05 5113 total posts
Name:
Brooke
|
Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
So it's today.. But here's what I don't get...
Was today the day it happened? or the day it was celebrated? How could it have happened today if he was born 2 weeks later??
|
Posted 12/8/08 3:55 PM  |
| |
|
Long Island Weddings
Long Island's Largest Bridal Resource |
curliegirl
He's here!!!!
Member since 3/06 10128 total posts
Name:
Gina
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
It's the conception of Mary, not Jesus....
|
| Posted 12/8/08 3:56 PM |
| |
|
Shopaholic921
SUP..
Member since 10/05 5113 total posts
Name:
Brooke
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by curliegirl
It's the conception of Mary, not Jesus....
Wait, Mary was a product of Immaculate Conception??? I am so lost right now...
|
| Posted 12/8/08 3:59 PM |
| |
|
Kara
Now Zagat Rated!
Member since 3/07 13217 total posts
Name:
They call me "Tater Salad"
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
The Immaculate Conception celebrates the day Mary was conceived -- Immaculate means she was conceived without sin...
ETA Link to Catholic Encyclopedia re: Feast of the Immaculate Conception
Message edited 12/8/2008 4:02:15 PM.
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:01 PM |
| |
|
Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
Member since 5/06 23378 total posts
Name:
remember, when Gulliver traveled....
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Kara
The Immaculate Conception celebrates the day Mary was conceived -- she was conceived without sin...
...which is why she was able to carry Jesus.
THIS IS WRONG: Jesus WAS born with original sin, which is why John the Baptist Baptised him...(at least I think I learned that in CCD)
ETA: all those years of Catholic school paid off for Kara...all those wednesdays did nothing for me.
Message edited 12/8/2008 4:11:24 PM.
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:02 PM |
| |
|
curliegirl
He's here!!!!
Member since 3/06 10128 total posts
Name:
Gina
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Shopaholic921
Posted by curliegirl
It's the conception of Mary, not Jesus....
Wait, Mary was a product of Immaculate Conception??? I am so lost right now...
Yes, Jesus was not technically "conceived"
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:02 PM |
| |
|
donegal419
St. Gerard, pray for us.
Member since 7/07 7650 total posts
Name:
K
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
yes....
and to answer the OP's question more specifically, we do not KNOW exactly when Jesus was born. Historical records seem to think it may have been in the summer, possibly June. the calendar of that time is NOTHING like the one we use now. December 25th was chosen (in the middle ages, i believe) because it was close to the winter solstice and for the allegorical Christ being the light of the world, he leads us out of the darkness.
also, we have no idea when Mary was conceived either... it is just the date that is celebrated.
Does this make sense?
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:04 PM |
| |
|
ko123
My loves!
Member since 10/07 3002 total posts
Name:
Kristin
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Shopaholic921
Posted by curliegirl
It's the conception of Mary, not Jesus....
Wait, Mary was a product of Immaculate Conception??? I am so lost right now...
Yup we recently had this conversation at work and I was like ...WHAT?? lol. And here I thought I was a good Catholic and I didn't know this. haha.
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:05 PM |
| |
|
dpli
Daylight savings :)
Member since 5/05 13973 total posts
Name:
D
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Shopaholic921
Posted by curliegirl
It's the conception of Mary, not Jesus....
Wait, Mary was a product of Immaculate Conception??? I am so lost right now...
I think you are confusing the Immaculate Conception of Mary with the virgin birth of Jesus.
Look up "virgin birth" on the site Kara cited. I think that is what you are thinking of...
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:05 PM |
| |
|
donegal419
St. Gerard, pray for us.
Member since 7/07 7650 total posts
Name:
K
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Shopaholic921
Posted by curliegirl
It's the conception of Mary, not Jesus....
Wait, Mary was a product of Immaculate Conception??? I am so lost right now...
yes, because MARY was concevied without sin. Catholics believe that she was conceived and born without original sin like everyone else so that her body and soul would be pure to bear the Son of God.
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:05 PM |
| |
|
Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
Member since 5/06 23378 total posts
Name:
remember, when Gulliver traveled....
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by donegal419
yes....
and to answer the OP's question more specifically, we do not KNOW exactly when Jesus was born. Historical records seem to think it may have been in the summer, possibly June. the calendar of that time is NOTHING like the one we use now. December 25th was chosen (in the middle ages, i believe) because it was close to the winter solstice and for the allegorical Christ being the light of the world, he leads us out of the darkness.
also, we have no idea when Mary was conceived either... it is just the date that is celebrated.
Does this make sense?
the dates of ALL catholic celebrations were chosen to coincide with Pagan Holidays...it was easier to convert the masses when MEAD was involved
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:06 PM |
| |
|
Shopaholic921
SUP..
Member since 10/05 5113 total posts
Name:
Brooke
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Now I get it.. Thank you all!!
All those years in CCD.... 
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:08 PM |
| |
|
Kara
Now Zagat Rated!
Member since 3/07 13217 total posts
Name:
They call me "Tater Salad"
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Kara
The Immaculate Conception celebrates the day Mary was conceived -- she was conceived without sin...
...which is why she was able to carry Jesus.
Jesus WAS born with original sin, which is why John the Baptist Baptised him...(at least I think I learned that in CCD)
No, Jesus was not born with original sin. He was sinless. He was baptized to "fulfill all righteousness" or something along those lines. (I forget the line from the Bible.) I do remember though that John asks Jesus why he, a sinful man, should baptize the Messiah, who was without sin.
It's been a long time since my Catholic school days, but I think he was Baptized in part because he would die for OUR sins... I should try to look that up because now I can't remember it all. I also remember part of the discussion being about that Jesus, who was himself free of sin, would identify himself with sinners to free us from our sins...
Message edited 12/8/2008 4:10:48 PM.
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:09 PM |
| |
|
Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
Member since 5/06 23378 total posts
Name:
remember, when Gulliver traveled....
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Kara
Posted by Ophelia
Posted by Kara
The Immaculate Conception celebrates the day Mary was conceived -- she was conceived without sin...
...which is why she was able to carry Jesus.
Jesus WAS born with original sin, which is why John the Baptist Baptised him...(at least I think I learned that in CCD)
No, Jesus was not born with original sin. He was sinless. He was baptized to "fulfill all righteousness" or something along those lines. (I forget the line from the Bible.) I do remember though that John asks Jesus why he, a sinful man, should baptize the Messiah, who was without sin.
It's been a long time since my Catholic school days, but I think he was Baptized in part because he would die for OUR sins... I should try to look that up because now I can't remember it all.
ahh...ok. I was confused. thank you.
obviously one wednesday afternoon a week it's hard to cram all that stuff in there
maybe I should send my kids to catholic school after all 
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:10 PM |
| |
|
Kara
Now Zagat Rated!
Member since 3/07 13217 total posts
Name:
They call me "Tater Salad"
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Ophelia
maybe I should send my kids to catholic school after all
Yikes, then they might turn out like ME! 
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:11 PM |
| |
|
Ophelia
she's baaccckkkk ;)
Member since 5/06 23378 total posts
Name:
remember, when Gulliver traveled....
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by Kara
Posted by Ophelia
maybe I should send my kids to catholic school after all
Yikes, then they might turn out like ME!
OR...my dh.
but at the very least, my kid wouldn't be an unpolished rough neck.  
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:12 PM |
| |
|
MsMBV
:P
Member since 5/05 28602 total posts
Name:
Me
|
Re: Immaculate Conception Day... QUESTION..
Posted by donegal419
yes....
and to answer the OP's question more specifically, we do not KNOW exactly when Jesus was born. Historical records seem to think it may have been in the summer, possibly June. the calendar of that time is NOTHING like the one we use now. December 25th was chosen (in the middle ages, i believe) because it was close to the winter solstice and for the allegorical Christ being the light of the world, he leads us out of the darkness.
also, we have no idea when Mary was conceived either... it is just the date that is celebrated.
Does this make sense?
If I remember correctly, December was chosen by Emperor Constantine during the coversion of the Roman Empire in the 300s BC, b/c that is near the solstice and made the conversion easier for the "pagans." It is estimated that the historical Jesus was born sometime in the late spring/early summer.
Message edited 12/8/2008 4:16:25 PM.
|
| Posted 12/8/08 4:15 PM |
| |
|
