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Important sunscreen info

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pharmcat2000
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Important sunscreen info

For anybody who missed it, Channel 2 had a story on this week about sunscreens, and how safe & effective they are. If you missed it, or want the info, here are a couple of links.

Sunscreen

Sunscreen article

Safe & effective sunscreens

Best & Worst Sunscreens

A Word on Nanoparticles

Alot of this is difficult to get through, and sometimes sounds contradictory, PLUS there is alot of it, but I hope it helps some people.

Message edited 6/22/2007 7:31:13 AM.

Posted 6/22/07 3:04 AM
 
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Dragonfly75
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Re: Important sunscreen info

This is really intersting -- can you post the website's recommended sunscreens? It asks for a username when I click on that section.

I've been using Blue Lizard -- is that good?

Posted 6/22/07 8:15 AM
 

cloddy
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Re: Important sunscreen info

YIKES Chat Icon Terrific not like it's hard enough to keep them from burning now we have to find out that almost all these products are basically toxic! Now what?

Posted 6/22/07 9:45 AM
 

pmpkn087
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Re: Important sunscreen info

Thanks for the info! I haven't read it yet, but I am having a terrible time finding one for DS.

Posted 6/22/07 9:48 AM
 

pharmcat2000
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Re: Important sunscreen info

Posted by Dragonfly75

This is really intersting -- can you post the website's recommended sunscreens? It asks for a username when I click on that section.

I've been using Blue Lizard -- is that good?



The website doesn't really recommend one over another. All it does is rate them. You have to look at the list to find the one you want (I don't want to copy the whole list into this post, because it will take up way too much space), but if you click on the link above for Best & Worst it will list them for you, with their ratings. If it asks you for a username, there is a spot under that where you can click to login without a username. Also, on the right-hand side of the screen, you can find your particular sunscreen and find out about it.

Basically, it looks like you want to find one with a low number for health hazard, and a low number for sun hazard. Then the list gives you an overall number, which you want to be as low as possible. There are several different Blue Lizard products on the list, so I can't tell you for sure, but they seem to be pretty high on the list. The other thing is, several have higher numbered ratings for "health hazard" but it looks like it is primarily because of having zinc or titanium nano-particles. Nano-particles are supposed to be bad for you, but it says that if they are the zinc or titanium ones, they aren't dangerous, but are nano-particles nonetheless, so they get a lower rating. It sounds like you want zinc or titanium for UVA protection, because they actually reflect the light and don't get absorbed into the skin. Some of the info sounds conflicting, which is what makes it really hard to decipher, but here are a few excerpts from what I've read:

Which sunscreens are best for children?
Since kids are more vulnerable to damage caused by the sun and to harmful effects of chemical exposure, you want to make sure you choose a sunscreen that is rated highly in terms of both effectiveness (against both UVA and UVB radiation) and safety. Use EWG's guide to help you find one. If your child is going to be swimming or playing in the water look for a sunscreen that says it is water resistant. Make sure to apply sunscreen generously and often. (Don't believe claims that a product will remain effective for a certain period of time, as these are not always reliable.) Never put sunscreen on infants under 6 months — at this age, a fair-skinned baby does not have melanin proteins for sun protection and needs to be kept out of the sun. And remember that sunscreen is just one part of a sun-healthy lifestyle. Limiting sun exposure and wearing protective clothing are even more important than wearing sunscreen

My sunscreen says it has nano particles in it, should I be concerned?
Environmental Working Group is among the many advocacy groups who have raised concerns about whether the rapidly expanding use of nanotechnology poses risks to human health or the environment. Many zinc and titanium sunscreens contain nanosize particles, even when they are not on the label.

Although we expected to reach a different conclusion at the outset of our sunscreen investigation, when we balanced all factors important in sunscreen safety, we found many zinc and titanium-based sunscreens that our analysis shows are among the safest and most effective sunscreens on the market. Our product ratings reflect our concern about the very real dangers of cancer and other health hazards from sun exposure, balanced against concerns about the potential health hazards of sunscreen ingredients. Read our full assessment of zinc and titanium sunscreens here.

Our study shows that consumers who use sunscreens without zinc and titanium are likely exposed to more UV radiation and greater numbers of hazardous ingredients than consumers relying on zinc and titanium products for sun protection. We found that sunscreens without zinc and titanium could accelerate by an average of 20% the skin damage, premature aging, wrinkling, and UV-induced immune system damage linked to UVA exposure, compared to zinc and titanium sunscreens. They contain four times as many high hazard ingredients known or strongly suspected to cause cancer or birth defects, to disrupt human reproduction or damage the growing brain of a child. They also contain more toxins on average in every major category of health harm considered: cancer (10% more), birth defects and reproductive harm (40% more), neurotoxins (20% more), endocrine system disruptors (70% more), and chemicals that can damage the immune system (70% more).

Zinc oxide and titanium dioxide are stable compounds that provide broad spectrum UVA and UVB protection, while the available studies consistently show very little or zero penetration of intact skin by these compounds, indicating that real world exposure to potential nano sized particles in these products is likely very low (Borm 2006). The sun protection benefits, in contrast, are very high.

EWG's rating of zinc and titanium-based products as among the safest and most effective sunscreens available in the U.S. today should not be interpreted as an endorsement of nano-materials in general. We remain deeply concerned about the overall safety and oversight of nanotechnology as well as impacts to workers and the environment.


Posted 6/22/07 7:30 PM
 

liatheart
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kelly

Re: Important sunscreen info

I'm never home for the news so this was super helpful, thanks. Tans are completly overrated, and NOT cute on children.

Posted 6/23/07 2:45 AM
 

-Laurie-
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Re: Important sunscreen info

We use Banana Boat Baby for my son
Ocean Potion for me and Bull Frog for my DH and none of them are rated.

But for living in Florida and S. Texas for the past 5 years I have been very happy with both. No burns, some color, goes on smooth stays on during boating, fishing, swimming.

Posted 6/23/07 4:23 AM
 

pharmcat2000
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Re: Important sunscreen info

Posted by -Laurie-

We use Banana Boat Baby for my son
Ocean Potion for me and Bull Frog for my DH and none of them are rated.

But for living in Florida and S. Texas for the past 5 years I have been very happy with both. No burns, some color, goes on smooth stays on during boating, fishing, swimming.



Which Banana Boat do you use? I also use it, and had a hard time finding it but did by typing in the name.

Posted 6/23/07 5:34 AM
 

-Laurie-
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Re: Important sunscreen info

Posted by pharmcat2000

Posted by -Laurie-

We use Banana Boat Baby for my son
Ocean Potion for me and Bull Frog for my DH and none of them are rated.

But for living in Florida and S. Texas for the past 5 years I have been very happy with both. No burns, some color, goes on smooth stays on during boating, fishing, swimming.



Which Banana Boat do you use? I also use it, and had a hard time finding it but did by typing in the name.



Banana Boat Baby I think its SPF 50 it comes in a Hot Pink rather large tube it is the only thing I have found to be truely not hurt if it gets in the eyes.

External Image Here is what it looks like

Message edited 6/23/2007 8:29:20 AM.

Posted 6/23/07 8:27 AM
 

pharmcat2000
Mom of 2 + 1

Member since 10/05

7395 total posts

Name:
Catherine

Re: Important sunscreen info

Posted by -Laurie-

Posted by pharmcat2000

Posted by -Laurie-

We use Banana Boat Baby for my son
Ocean Potion for me and Bull Frog for my DH and none of them are rated.

But for living in Florida and S. Texas for the past 5 years I have been very happy with both. No burns, some color, goes on smooth stays on during boating, fishing, swimming.



Which Banana Boat do you use? I also use it, and had a hard time finding it but did by typing in the name.



Banana Boat Baby I think its SPF 50 it comes in a Hot Pink rather large tube it is the only thing I have found to be truely not hurt if it gets in the eyes.

IMAGE Here is what it looks like



That's the one I use too. It has a health hazard rating of 5 and a sun hazard rating of 2. Overall the rating is a 3. I think that is pretty good. I think the reason it got the 5 for the health hazard is because it has titanium (probably as nano-particles) in it. Which from what I see are good for UVA protection even though they are considered "nano-particles". I don't know. If you say it is the only thing that really doesn't hurt their eyes, I think I'm going to continue with it.

Posted 6/23/07 9:45 AM
 
 

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