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JennZ
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Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
So last night we were watching Howard Stern. He had on a comic Greg Fitzsimmons. Fitz was talking about how after numerous warnings with his 9yrs old, he washed his mouth out with soap. Howard and Robin were insistant, that this was going to cause "longterm issues" and a abusive manner in which to handle the issue at hand.
I as a kid, had my mouth washed out with an Ivory bar becasue I dropped the F bomb. Now, back then I never dropped it again. I also, personally see nothing wrong with it. I myself would not do it to DS, but can see how he was trying to teach a lesson. As messed up as it is.
So, my question is, Do you think this is some kind of abuse, or just a alternitive way of parenting??
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Posted 9/23/09 11:19 AM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
I don't think it is abusive-unless there is some chemical in there that could hurt your kid if swallowed.
But I don't think it is necessary either and it's not something I will do to my kid.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:22 AM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
I think it is very old school, along the same lines as spanking.
It is not something that was done to me, and not something I will do.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:25 AM |
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LeShellem
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
It was threatend a number of times with me as a kid, but mom never actually went through with it. I don't think I would do it to my child, but I don't think its wrong if someone else feels the need to do it to their child.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:27 AM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
Posted by SweetTooth
I think it is very old school, along the same lines as spanking.
It is not something that was done to me, and not something I will do.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:28 AM |
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I don't think it's abusive. It was done to me once or twice that I remember and I don't think I had any long term effects. It's not something I think I will do myself, but I have already learned.....never say never.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:31 AM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
It wasn't done to me & I haven't done it to my kid. I don't consider it abuse as CrankyPants mentioned as long as it wasn't harmful. However, I think once you get into "creative" ways to punish your child, it can cross that fine line from punishment to abuse.
I've posted about this before but my old boyfriend's dad was creative in his punishments too. It ranged from hot pepper in their mouths for bad language, eating their vomit when they got carsick to strapping them down to a snowmobile & beating them until they were unconscious (in elementary school). While I don't see the soap thing as abusive, it's close enough to the hot pepper.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:34 AM |
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JennZ
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
Ok, I didn't think it was THAT bad also. DH didn't agree. Howard and Robin went as far to say it was a form of Sodemy??? I think that was a bit much. Saying he was being "forceful" with his son, and instilling fear of him to the son.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:34 AM |
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MikesWife
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
Abusive? No. Necessary? I'd say no on this one too.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:34 AM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
Posted by nrthshgrl
I've posted about this before but my old boyfriend's dad was creative in his punishments too. It ranged from hot pepper in their mouths for bad language, eating their vomit when they got carsick to strapping them down to a snowmobile & beating them until they were unconscious (in elementary school). While I don't see the soap thing as abusive, it's close enough to the hot pepper.
That is horrible!
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Posted 9/23/09 11:40 AM |
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headoverheels
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
i defintely don't consider it abuse.
i remember it was done to me when i was 7 or 8.
i remember it VIVIDLY.
it must have worked b/c my mom never did it to me again
i am most certainly not traumatized by it and i adore my mother
but no, i don't plan on going it to my kids.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:41 AM |
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CaseyGirl
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
It is old school and yes I would do it. Same as I will do a single spank on the (clothed) bottom for something bad. I was raised that way and so was my DH.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:43 AM |
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leighdvm
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
Posted by headoverheels
i defintely don't consider it abuse.
i remember it was done to me when i was 7 or 8.
i remember it VIVIDLY.
it must have worked b/c my mom never did it to me again
i am most certainly not traumatized by it and i adore my mother
but no, i don't plan on going it to my kids.
Same with me.....but, like a PP said, I never say never....I don't PLAN on doing alot of things....but I can't predict what I'll do in certain situations.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:51 AM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
I heard this when he was on last week.
I would never do it, but I don't consider it abuse either. I agree that it goes along the lines of spanking, more of an older style of discipline.
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Posted 9/23/09 11:59 AM |
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eddiesmommy
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
I feel the same way about this as I do spanking......I personally wouldnt do either, but it doesnt bother me when people do. People have used those two "techniques" for decades and frankly, kids were FAR more respectful (tweens and teens I should say) when they were in place and I dont think thats a coincidence. Again, I wouldnt do it, but I dont think it would cause permanent and irreparable damages.
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Posted 9/23/09 12:04 PM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
I did this to ds when he was about 4..he called me a b*tch, after hearing Grace call Will it, on Will & Grace..he thought it was funny..and after being told several times NOT to say "mommys a b*tch" i put alil bit of soap on his tongue (bar Dove) and he has NEVER cursed since then.. he is almost 11, and all of his friends throw around "cr*p, dam* it, h*ll, sh*t" and my son wouldnt even DREAM of it..at least in front of me..which was the point
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Posted 9/23/09 12:16 PM |
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NS1976
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
I dont think I would follow through with it but I have taught Megan if she says bad words, she will get soap in her mouth. Its actually really funny, because now when ANYONE curses, no matter where we are (my brother and Dad are huge cursers) she says to them..Soap in the mouf!!! LOL
Its something that works for us..my mom said the same thing to us but never actually did it.
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Posted 9/23/09 12:22 PM |
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eddiesmommy
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
Posted by JennZ
Ok, I didn't think it was THAT bad also. DH didn't agree. Howard and Robin went as far to say it was a form of Sodemy??? I think that was a bit much. Saying he was being "forceful" with his son, and instilling fear of him to the son.
they say these things for shock value and to get a rise out of people. I dont think for a second they truly believe it constitutes sodomy.
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Posted 9/23/09 12:24 PM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
My aunt used to do this to my cousins. They really are just fine now as adults. And they dont do this to their children.
I would never do it. Never. I do think it's a bit harsh but not child abuse.
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Posted 9/23/09 12:24 PM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
it's not something that I would do, I am not into that type of punishment but I would not consider it abusive
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Posted 9/23/09 12:46 PM |
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
Posted by KateDevine
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I think it is very old school, along the same lines as spanking.
It is not something that was done to me, and not something I will do.
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me too on all counts... never had my mouth washed out with soap or ever spanked
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Posted 9/23/09 12:58 PM |
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Janice
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
if i found out josh was disrespectful to a teacher or something like that then, yes, i probably would put soap on his tongue.
an f bomb though, probably not. that's pretty much a do as i say, not as i do moment.
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Posted 9/23/09 1:06 PM |
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JennZ
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Re: Interesting Crossing the Parental lines Convo...
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Ok, I didn't think it was THAT bad also. DH didn't agree. Howard and Robin went as far to say it was a form of Sodemy??? I think that was a bit much. Saying he was being "forceful" with his son, and instilling fear of him to the son.
they say these things for shock value and to get a rise out of people. I dont think for a second they truly believe it constitutes sodomy.
Trust me, I fully understand Howard and his shock value. They (howard and RObin) were getting pretty hot and heavy with the comedian about how it was wrong and kept associating the two. I don't see it like that kjust sharing the conversation between the three of them.
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Posted 9/23/09 1:27 PM |
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