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Joe torre Job on the line if he does not win tonight.

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Joe torre Job on the line if he does not win tonight.

Joe Torre's Job on the LineNEW YORK -- Win or else! That was George Steinbrenner's message to Joe Torre before the New York Yankees played the Cleveland Indians on Sunday night.



With the Yankees trailing 2-0 in the best-of-five, first-round playoff series, Steinbrenner reverted to the blustering boss of old and said Torre likely wouldn't return as manager unless New York reaches the AL championship series for the first time in three years.



"His job is on the line," the owner was quoted in Sunday's editions of The Record of New Jersey. "I think we're paying him a lot of money. He's the highest-paid manager in baseball, so I don't think we'd take him back if we don't win this series."



Torre was hired before the 1996 season and led the Yankees to four World Series titles in his first five seasons but none since. New York last reached the World Series in 2003, wasted a 3-0 lead to Boston in the 2004 ALCS, then was eliminated by the Angels and Detroit in the first round the last two years.



"You're not surprised by whatever comes down the pike," Torre said. "You don't always get used to it, but you understand if you want to work here -- and there's a great deal of upside to working here -- that there are certain things you have to deal with. We've had ultimatums during the season, early in the season. This obviously is down to a game we need to win, and you'd like to believe everybody's trying to pull in the same direction."


Teams Up 2-0
in Best-of-5 Series
Won in 3 games 34
4 games 8
5 games 3
Lost in 5 game

Torre has led the Yankees to 12 consecutive postseason appearances, winning 10 AL East titles and two wild-card berths. His 1,173 regular-season wins are second among Yankees managers behind Joe McCarthy's 1,460.



In the final season of his current contract, Torre is being paid $7 million. He hasn't decided whether he would want to return but has seemed open to it in recent weeks.



"It's too early for me to address that because, you know, the most important thing for me right now is winning Game 3," he said.



Sitting in his pinstriped uniform pants with a blue Yankees windbreaker and an NY cap, he matter-of-factly answered questions for 12 minutes about 2½ hours before game time. He found out about Steinbrenner's comments when he arrived at Yankee Stadium.



"I choose not to read the papers and stuff when we don't do well," Torre said. "I jump in there when we're doing well."



Steinbrenner changed managers 20 times from 1973-95 and nearly fired Torre after last year's four-game elimination. Torre had a humorous response when asked whether his job would be safe in the Yankees did come back.



"Till the next series, right?" he said.



"You have seen managers who have been here before me. I don't think any of them have been on easy street as far as the day-in, day-out operations here," Torre went on. "So whether I think it's right, wrong, fair, foul or whatever is really not the point at this point in time. I'll save all that stuff for later on when there's really nothing left for me to do here."



Steinbrenner also criticized umpire Bruce Froemming for not stopping play when insects invaded the field during Game 2 in Cleveland on Friday. Rookie reliever Joba Chamberlain threw two wild pitches that allowed Cleveland to tie the game in the eighth, and the Indians went on to win 2-1 in 11 innings.



Froemming called it "just a little irritation." Steinbrenner profanely dismissed Froemming's explanation.



"He won't umpire our games anymore," Steinbrenner said.



The 68-year-old Froemming -- the longest-tenured umpire in major league history -- is retiring after this season. The Yankees complained to baseball commissioner Bud Selig.



"[Selig] just said, 'That's in the umpires' hands.' ... It was terrible. It messed up the whole team, [Derek] Jeter, all of them," Steinbrenner told the paper.



Steinbrenner also predicted Alex Rodriguez will remain with the Yankees. A-Rod has the right to opt out of the final three years of his record $252 million, 10-year contract after the World Series and become a free agent.



"I think we'll re-sign him," Steinbrenner told the paper. "I think he's going to have a good run the rest of the [postseason]. I think he realizes New York is the place to be, the place to play. A lot of this [postseason] is laying on his shoulders, you know, but I think he's up to it."



The 77-year-old Steinbrenner, who has appeared to be more frail in recent years, said he will make the decisions on Torre and Rodriguez.



"I have full control," Steinbrenner said.












As a Red Sox fan, I love to see the Yankees lose. However, I can appreciate what a phenomenal job Torre has done. If George is dumb enough to let go one of the best managers of all time then he deserves what he will get!

There is no way that Jeter and the NY clubhouse will be the same if Torre is fired.




Let's see. They've been in the playoffs every year he has been the manager. They won the AL East all but two of those years, won six AL pennants, and four World Series. And he is managing for his job should they not come back against the Indians?? Are we back in the 1980's and is Billy Martin managing again???

Another manipulation attempt by Steinbrenner is all this is. The players love Torre, so George is doing this now to get them to push a little bit harder... create a little extra incentive. Problem is, if you feel the need to do something like this, then you're acknowledging that your team doesn't even belong in the playoffs. Torre is a class act who knows that he can have any managerial job in baseball. George's threat wasn't meant for Torre, it was meant for the players.



Steinbrenner, what? 12 years, 12 playoffs...there isn't a better manager out there to handle the pressures of NY and baseball's version of Al Davis (only worse). They were 14 something games out of it not long ago and clawed their way back and made the playoffs when they were counted out long ago. Steinbrenner needs a reality check.

As much as I hate the yanks, It is very unprofessional to air your manager out in a public forum. Especially on the day of a HUGE game.



Joe Torre has held this team together all season long. If Steinbrenner doesn't bring him back, it'll be the biggest mistake he's ever made.




Way to put the final NAIL in your team's coffin "Boss"! Wait till they are down 0-2 and on the day of the decisive game....threaten your team's manager!!!

Gotta love it...when things go bad in NY, they REALLY go bad.....



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Posted 10/7/07 6:09 PM
 
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Re: Joe torre Job on the line if he does not win tonight.

Steinbrenner is a senile old coot!

Posted 10/9/07 5:23 PM
 

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Re: Joe torre Job on the line if he does not win tonight.

Posted by Blu-ize

Steinbrenner is a senile old coot!

I agree about Steinbrenner, I hope Joe torre stays with the yankees... and yes this is a Mets fan saying this, He is a good coach and put alot into the team I really do hope he stays!Chat Icon

Posted 10/9/07 5:59 PM
 
 
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