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Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

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Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Hi ladies –

I wanted to out this out there to help ease your minds about behaviors, and speech. I love getting FMs and giving information, but since I get so many, and I’m sure I don’t get some from people who may not feel FMing me out of the blue (which I NEVER mind, by the way!!!)

While I’m not a speech therapist, I do know about certain aspects of speech. Also, please don’t take my word as anything other than my professional opinions based on my research and experience. I am not a doctor.

There are many components to speech. There is “verbal” speech. And “nonverbal” speech.

Nonverbal speech starts waaaay before verbal speech – almost immediately.

Nonverbal speech is the following:

Responding to changes in your tone (mom and dad talking, talking high, talking low, talking while smiling, etc.) these responses to your voice are very important as it shows you that your child “gets” that you are speaking just for them. They will wiggle, kick, flail their arms, and possibly smile or coo back.

Back and forth cooing – you make a noise, she makes a noise – back and forth. This is a conversation! Again, your baby is showing you that she “gets” the dynamics that a conversation is a volley between 2 people.

As your child gets older, he or she will start engaging in other important developmentally appropriate communication strategies:

Joint attention – he sees something cool, or something new and strange, and the 1st thing he does is look at you to see your reaction to that thing. This is a social thing, and a speech thing.

He or she will point to things out of reach – it doesn’t have to be a perfect point, or a point at all. It could be an open handed point, or a few fingers – the important thing is that he or she is looking at YOU during this gesture, to let you know that it is desired.

The “hey look what I just did” smile is very important! I just sneezed – did you see that mommy? Hey, look at me, I’m standing! I’m dancing. I farted! All of these actions are followed with a smile in your direction for your approval. The reason for this is that your child is waiting for you to SAY something in that fun high voice. This is a speech skill, and a social skill.

Babbling is very important – consonants should start to emerge at arooooound 9-10 mts, I think. Consonant sounds – bababababa, mamamama, dadada, etc…. All kids do this at different times. Cailen refused to call me mama until he was about 15 mts old – everything was dada for the longest time. Daddy, his bottle, his toys, etc – he was talking, but only saying one word. This happens and it is fine. He was also doing something called “fronting” where the tip of his tongue was used for every word – for example, “bye bye” was “dye dye”

If I hear that a child has a lot of nonverbal, social communication, and what is called “communicative intent” then that is a great sign that language is there and emerging.

Words - verbal language - will typically start to emerge sometime after your baby’s 1st year, give or take many months! Cailen, who had a greatdeal of nonverbal communication, really did not say a lot of words until quite recently. The explosion didn’t happen until almost 19 mts old. Now at 22 mts, he says sentences and asks questions.

Typically, your toddler will want you to repeat what he or she said to confirm the label. This is ok and totally normal.

As for play – kids learn by repetition. I get a lot of frightened FMs from moms who see their kids engaging in repetitive play – opening and closing farm doors, lining up their blocks and cars, stuff like that. This is how youngsters learn about spatial relationships, texture, cause and effect, and basic play. The thing is, these behaviors are seen in children with autism. HOWEVER, if your child is engaging in appropriate communication as described above, is social, engaging, lets you in on their play, and allows you to engage them in other ways of playing with the toys, then really, things are ok. If your baby likes to vroom and zoom his cars most of the time, but also enjoys lining them up, his play is diverse enough where it’s probably not a problem.

Also, kids like to stare at things that go round and round (think of the swing with the mobile, or a crib mobile) – the movement of objects and patterns are fascinating and help with brain development and growth. Staring at a ceiling fan is inevitable. That is not a sign of autism. All kids do it!

Just a few words on some things I see moms get freaked out about. I hope this helps a little.

Always go with your instinct. If you feel there is something wrong, you can always FM me, although I will always tell you to go for an evaluation, as I am a part of a diagnostic team, and not a stand-alone diagnostician, and it would be unethical for me to say anything without seeing your child or doing some type of evaluation.

I hope this was helpful – and please, always feel free to FM me.

Message edited 2/12/2009 2:59:44 PM.

Posted 2/12/09 2:58 PM
 
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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

this was very helpful - i am bookmarking, thanks!!

Posted 2/12/09 3:09 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

i always see you posting things like this to help others out...and while i hope to NEVER need to know about any of this, youre always so informative, and have a kind heart about what youre trying to help others with..

thanks for teaching me alot of things i didnt know..

Posted 2/12/09 3:10 PM
 

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Posted 2/12/09 3:13 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Thanks for posting! I am definitely going to bookmark it as well.

Posted 2/12/09 3:16 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Just wondering...
Obviously I am a mother to an older child (2) but lets say the sentence has alot of babble in it but its content is correct...
For example...you both see a dog and its barking and the child says ...

I like the bippitta bippita bippita puppy...

OK so clearly, you know they are reacting to the puppy, you kinda know where the sentence is going and what the intent is...

Do you then force the sentence to be restructured by repeating it yourself or do you not respond to it bc you dont understand? I guess my point...How do you rid the babble from logical sentence structure?

Message edited 2/12/2009 3:24:22 PM.

Posted 2/12/09 3:24 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Posted by PrincessP

Just wondering...
Obviously I am a mother to an older child (2) but lets say the sentence has alot of babble in it but its content is correct...
For example...you both see a dog and its barking and the child says ...

I like the bippitta bippita bippita puppy...

OK so clearly, you know they are reacting to the puppy, you kinda know where the sentence is going and what the intent is...

Do you then force the sentence to be restructured by repeating it yourself or do you not respond to it bc you dont understand? I guess my point...How do you rid the babble from logical sentence structure?



Sorry for crashing!

The best thing you can do for your child is to be a good language model. There's no need to "correct" the language or make your child say the sentence again.. you can just "recast" the sentence by providing a good model without any critical undertones.

For your example, I'd reply "You like the little brown puppy? Me too!" - or something like that. So you take what the child has said, and recast it to be a meaninful sentence - without making the child feel like they have done something wrong.

Does that make sense?

(I'm an SLP!)

Posted 2/12/09 3:28 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Perfectly said hayley!

Posted 2/12/09 3:40 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Thank you Liza

My son will NOT allow me to color with him. He needs to hold 3-5 crayons in one hand and he colors without allowing me to have one.....is this bad?

Posted 2/12/09 3:52 PM
 

lipglossjunky73
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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Posted by JenBenMen

Thank you Liza

My son will NOT allow me to color with him. He needs to hold 3-5 crayons in one hand and he colors without allowing me to have one.....is this bad?


Cailen does this too! I think its a terrible two, control freak thing!!!! Lol

Posted 2/12/09 3:55 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Posted by JenBenMen

Thank you Liza

My son will NOT allow me to color with him. He needs to hold 3-5 crayons in one hand and he colors without allowing me to have one.....is this bad?




How old is your son?

Toddlers usually like "parallel play" (playing next to someone.. instead of WITH/interacting with someone) and will move to cooperative play eventually...

Posted 2/12/09 3:55 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Thanks for this Liza!

At what age does the interactive play happen? Jack is all about playing independently. I am always in the room with him but he wants no part of playing WITH me. I am hoping this will change once he starts getting speech services!

Posted 2/12/09 4:21 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Thanks. I am totally bookmarking this!!!!

Posted 2/12/09 4:46 PM
 

lipglossjunky73
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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Posted by Diana1215

Thanks for this Liza!

At what age does the interactive play happen? Jack is all about playing independently. I am always in the room with him but he wants no part of playing WITH me. I am hoping this will change once he starts getting speech services!

Well, it can be taught early if kids are in a class together, but naturally I would say 2.5 years or closer to 3 for some kids depending on their maturity levels....

Posted 2/12/09 4:51 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

Posted by lipglossjunky73

Posted by Diana1215

Thanks for this Liza!

At what age does the interactive play happen? Jack is all about playing independently. I am always in the room with him but he wants no part of playing WITH me. I am hoping this will change once he starts getting speech services!

Well, it can be taught early if kids are in a class together, but naturally I would say 2.5 years or closer to 3 for some kids depending on their maturity levels....



So I'm not the World's Worst Mom since my son doesn't want to play with me - and I spend my days on the computer as he's next to me?? Chat Icon Because that's how I feel most days! Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 2/12/09 4:57 PM
 

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Re: Just a few words from my professional experience - if anyone cares

You made some very valid points. Things to look for. And a lot of what you posted are totally applying to us and DS.

I was always the one to say, I would not compare DS to others. But you know what, I now think that it's a good measure to go by. Yes, some kids are slower, some are faster but you can see when you go to GTGs, playdates, how your kid does, what other kids do. Does your kid interact with you? Does he bring you toys? Is she/he excited to see you?

It's hard not to worry about any sort of delay or what may not be normal but it's usually not just one thing. It's series of patterns.

Posted 2/12/09 5:05 PM
 
 

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