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LeShellem
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Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Mother's Role [May 9]
The changing economy has also changed the dynamics of the family. The mother is now confidently striding across boardrooms. The need for mothers to do this is not just to add another earning member to the family. The modern woman realizes that identity is of the utmost importance. They feel that the time has come for them to take their roles and responsibilities more seriously. If they were prioritizing homes over offices, they have discontinued to do so. Kids feel thankful toward their mother when she is around because they know that their mother is busy and all they can get is quality time. Mothers are not really feeling guilty about leaving their kids at home because mothers understand that they are working for their kids as well.
Even in the confines of the four walls, a modern mother is different from the earlier generation. Moms are no longer yelling at their kids for incomplete homeworks and unclean rooms. Rather, they are now therapists, keeping their cool and reasoning with their kids. Mothers of today attach importance to the opinion of the kids, even if they are too young to offer so. The idea is to make them independent and rational. The modern mother is not trying to strike a balance between work and home anymore. A mother is more of a friend and the equation is now between being firm and loving a t the same time. You can still take her stuff once in a while, but you got to ask for her permission! But whatever role the mother plays, it's never enough to be thankful!
Discuss....
Who knew that you cant say P I S S E D
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
I don't even know where to start!   
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
I would take myself off that e-mail list if I were you
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LeShellem
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
I want to write a letter, but honestly I am so worked up, not sure where to start. I might need a day or two, but I really want to explain that what was written is insulting and incorrect.
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
I have no words. Honestly.... thats cr*p
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mom2b
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Are you kidding?! This is so insulting!!!
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Wow. I honestly am at a loss.
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Xelindrya
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong. 
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
I feel the same way...I kind of think its reality nowadays...Not trying to start a war, i just dont get why everyone is so angry...
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
this line in particular annoys me
"If they were prioritizing homes over offices, they have discontinued to do so. "
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Apparently since I am a SAHM I have no identity.
Stupid, stupid email.
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sfp0701
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
I think it basically saying that everything that a modern mother does is wrong. They value their kids opinions even though they are too young to have any?? And as far as the quality time they are saying that there is no regular time.. that they have to make the most of every second and make it count since they are missing out on every second by being at work. IT is completly insulting.. and the last line..... Don't even get me started. They are sayign that no kid should be thankful because their mother isn't doing enough. 
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by sfp0701
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
I think it basically saying that everything that a modern mother does is wrong. They value their kids opinions even though they are too young to have any?? And as far as the quality time they are saying that there is no regular time.. that they have to make the most of every second and make it count since they are missing out on every second by being at work. IT is completly insulting.. and the last line..... Don't even get me started. They are sayign that no kid should be thankful because their mother isn't doing enough.
Really? I read the last line differently... I thought it was saying its never enough to be thankful of what moms do.. not that we dont do enough to be thankful for... but I may be wrong...
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sfp0701
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by staceyd
Posted by sfp0701
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
I think it basically saying that everything that a modern mother does is wrong. They value their kids opinions even though they are too young to have any?? And as far as the quality time they are saying that there is no regular time.. that they have to make the most of every second and make it count since they are missing out on every second by being at work. IT is completly insulting.. and the last line..... Don't even get me started. They are sayign that no kid should be thankful because their mother isn't doing enough.
Really? I read the last line differently... I thought it was saying its never enough to be thankful of what moms do.. not that we dont do enough to be thankful for... but I may be wrong...
Maybe... I think it is really bad wording. The whole email is weird.. is the author being nasty or not? It's really hard to tell. But, that's how I read it. I guess you could read it the other way too. THis person should have had a proofreader!
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staceyd
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by sfp0701
Posted by staceyd
Posted by sfp0701
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
I think it basically saying that everything that a modern mother does is wrong. They value their kids opinions even though they are too young to have any?? And as far as the quality time they are saying that there is no regular time.. that they have to make the most of every second and make it count since they are missing out on every second by being at work. IT is completly insulting.. and the last line..... Don't even get me started. They are sayign that no kid should be thankful because their mother isn't doing enough.
Really? I read the last line differently... I thought it was saying its never enough to be thankful of what moms do.. not that we dont do enough to be thankful for... but I may be wrong...
Maybe... I think it is really bad wording. The whole email is weird.. is the author being nasty or not? It's really hard to tell. But, that's how I read it. I guess you could read it the other way too. THis person should have had a proofreader!
I agree with you.. because I just went back to read it, and I was angry the third time.. because I saw it the way you did.. haha... stupid email.. I could write for these people...
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
There are so many things that were offensive about the email.
How about . . .
Mothers are not really feeling guilty about leaving their kids at home because mothers understand that they are working for their kids as well.
All you have to do is read the posts from practically every single poster here when her maternity leave is up and she has no choice but to return to work to know there is tremendous guilt. So, while you have stated you don't feel guilty about going to work and that you honestly believe you're working for your child, I dare say you are in the minority on these boards.
How about . . .
The mother is now confidently striding across boardrooms. The need for mothers to do this is not just to add another earning member to the family.
Again all you have to do is read these board to know this is BS. Heck, since Monday there have been no less that 3 threads, some with polls, about women being able to have it all. It seemed to me the consensus was women truly can't have it all and that something has to give. And again, you personally may not be in this exact position, but I believe that the women getting angry about the content of the original post (and even the original poster's anger over receiving the email) stem from not being in your position.
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Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
I feel the same way...I kind of think its reality nowadays...Not trying to start a war, i just dont get why everyone is so angry...
Thank you - I was trying to figure out if I should be angry at something here - I chalked it up to me missing something 
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Posted by momytobein2010
Posted by Xelindrya
sorry but can someone please draw me a picture?
I'm a little loss. My interpretation doesn't rouse as much anger in me as you guys so I'm wondering if I'm reading it wrong.
I disagree that I won't yell at my kids and rather be their friend instead. But I don't disagree that idenity is important. I'm not just 'mom' I'm Veronica. I wear many hats and Mom is one of them. Wife and Career woman are some of the others. I don't understand, is it a bad thing they suggest the kids are thankful to the time they spend with mom because she's always busy? I was that way with my Dad and generally it was stereotypical the father's role of busy work and quality time with family. Is it a bad thing that women/Moms are now growing into this role? I don't feel guilty in the least that I leave my child to go to work and I really do believe that I'm working for my child.
I am so missing something here
However, it is pretty darned generic and ignores the SAHM as the heros they are. I don't believe it belittles them though. Is that it?
What am I missing? I feel like I just missed the joke or that I'm reading some very good propaganda that I can't see through but you guys somehow are.
So enlighten me.
this line in particular annoys me
"If they were prioritizing homes over offices, they have discontinued to do so. "
See - that sentence is so poorly written I don't even get it!
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Sorry for posting so much - but someone said they were insulted at this quote:
that they have to make the most of every second and make it count since they are missing out on every second by being at work
I 100000% percent relate to this - since yesterday, I have maybe seen Cailen for about an hour.
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Posted by lipglossjunky73
Sorry for posting so much - but someone said they were insulted at this quote:
that they have to make the most of every second and make it count since they are missing out on every second by being at work
I 100000% percent relate to this - since yesterday, I have maybe seen Cailen for about an hour.
I agree with this!
How exactly is that insulting? 
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Okay, this is my take on it. It's a simplistic piece probably written by someone who has no children at all. This writer hit on all the points he/she thought "modern" moms would want to hear, but really missed the boat.
The piece itself doesn't piss me off as a SAHM (though we are ignored, and it would appear from this, there are none of us anymore). I would actually argue that due to the changing economy, I have been a SAHM a lot longer than planned--if times were good, I too would be "striding across boardrooms" . The few jobs that have come my way frankly did not cover childcare costs after taxes, so home I stay.
But it's a poorly conceived piece, and that's it.
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LeShellem
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
These are the points that were insulting to me.
The need for mothers to do this is not just to add another earning member to the family.
I work because I have to earn more money to support my family.
The modern woman realizes that identity is of the utmost importance.
The mere fact that I work is not what gives me my identity. I have an identity no matter if I work or stay at home.
They feel that the time has come for them to take their roles and responsibilities more seriously.
So is this writer saying that because someone chooses to stay home they aren't taking their role seriously. This sentence irks me the most and I'm not even a SAHM.
Mothers are not really feeling guilty about leaving their kids at home because mothers understand that they are working for their kids as well.
Have you read the post this week?
The modern mother is not trying to strike a balance between work and home anymore.
I don't know about others, but I try everyday to strike a balance between work and home and it seems like I fail everyday.
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NinaLemon
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
Posted by LeShellem
These are the points that were insulting to me.
The need for mothers to do this is not just to add another earning member to the family.
I work because I have to earn more money to support my family.
The modern woman realizes that identity is of the utmost importance.
The mere fact that I work is not what gives me my identity. I have an identity no matter if I work or stay at home.
They feel that the time has come for them to take their roles and responsibilities more seriously.
So is this writer saying that because someone chooses to stay home they aren't taking their role seriously. This sentence irks me the most and I'm not even a SAHM.
Mothers are not really feeling guilty about leaving their kids at home because mothers understand that they are working for their kids as well.
Have you read the post this week?
The modern mother is not trying to strike a balance between work and home anymore.
I don't know about others, but I try everyday to strike a balance between work and home and it seems like I fail everyday.
I completely agree with you.
I am a SAHM who chooses to live with less to be home with my son. According to this writer I am not taking my responsibilities seriously! What is more important than raising a decent person??? Not that work isn't important, but for me, no job, no object, NOTHING will ever be more important than my child. I could lose a job, our home, if I had to I'd beg for food because my greatest responsibility is my son.
I started a business out of my home, I work primarily during naps and after bedtime. There are times when I have to get things done when DS is awake, it is few and far between and STILL I feel guilty about working when he is up. I can only imagine how hard it is for a working mom to have to do that everyday.
My identity has nothing to do with how well I work or earn money, my identity comes from who I am and how I treat people.
I think this newsletter is an awful and cold hearted take on the "modern women"
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Re: Ok I'm ****** ... Email I received from [email protected]
I have NO words......
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