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Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
I totally agree and this is why Ellen is 100% wrong. She keeps saying the dog just needs a "good" home, but she is not the person to make that decision IMO. Let the org do their job. I am totally turned off by Ellen's insistive behavior.
Petfinder Statement Mutts and Mom has chosen to temporarily inactivate their website on Petfinder.com because their email inbox and voice mail are overwhelmed. Petfinder has 11,000 shelters and rescue groups posting over 260,000 pets that need homes. We do not dictate the adoption policies of our members. We do work with them to educate their volunteers and hope to professionalize the industry as a whole, providing a positive experience for adopters. Petfinder advocates for all parties: the pets, the adopters, and the shelter and rescue group workers and volunteers.
Pet Return Policies Many shelters and rescue groups insist, through their adoption agreements, that if a pet cannot stay with his adoptive family, the adopters must return him to the group. Why do they do this?
Between 500,000 and 1 million pets adopted from shelters and rescue groups find themselves homeless and in the shelter once again.
One foster mom said it best, "I found the dog on the street, starving. I nursed her back to health. She slept in my bed. I sang her back to sleep when she had nightmares when she first came to me. Then I adopted her to a wonderful family. A year later, I got a call from animal control because she was at the shelter and she was going to be euthanized. The family had gotten divorced and she ended up on death row!"
This too-common experience leads rescue groups and shelter to put strict policies in place governing what happens if the adoption doesn't work out. In effect, the rescue group and shelters are promising to always be there as a safety net for the pets. This can be very comforting to adopters.
Finding a New Home for Your Pet Some pet parents, who have the best intentions for their pets, feel that they can do a better job of finding a new home for their beloved pet than a shelter or rescue group. Their rationale is that they know their pet best, they can keep it in their home until the perfect new home is found, and they can help ease the transition for the pet. Often times, this is a natural transition - a family member, trusted friend, or a colleague gets to know the pet, falls in love, and the ownership of the pet is unofficially transferred to them.
This is a controversial point of view, even amongst shelters and rescue groups who may feel that they have more experience identifying pitfalls and risk factors when identifying new families. Research, however, suggests that there is no difference in the success rates of the adoptions between organizations that screen heavily versus those that have more open adoption policies.
It also bears noting that shelters and rescue groups, understandably, want to keep in contact with new families to be able to lend their support and continue to get updates about the pets they cared for. So we have two groups, the shelter and the pet parents, who both want what is best for the pet, but who may have very different points of view. The silver lining is that everyone really wants the best home possible for the pet. If we could ensure that same future for all the pets available on Petfinder.com, our job would be accomplished.
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Posted 10/18/07 9:21 AM |
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
I don't think the situation was handled well by either party (ellen or mutts and moms) but this tells an important side of the story that I think gets missed.
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Posted 10/19/07 7:45 PM |
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Shanti
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
I feel so badly for the agency. All they want to do is help animals.
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Posted 10/20/07 9:20 AM |
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Goobster
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
Posted by Shanti
I feel so badly for the agency. All they want to do is help animals.
I agree too. I used to be a huge fan of Ellen but all of this has REALLY turned me off towards her.
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Posted 10/20/07 10:18 AM |
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DeniseMarie
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
From Ellen's point of view - she didn't know she was doing something wrong. She probably felt horrible that the children of her hairdresser were upset that the dog was taken away.
I know we don't know the whole story but I just feel like Mutts and Mom's could have been a little more sensitive and maybe evaluated the home to see if the dog could stay.
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Posted 10/20/07 5:23 PM |
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Acerone
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
Mutts and Mom made a few mistakes when letting Ellen have the dog. From not having the dog neutered and not transferring the micro chip to Ellen's address. Your not allowed to have a pet up for adopting that hasn't been neutered or spayed.
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Posted 10/20/07 6:02 PM |
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Gertyrae
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
Posted by Acerone
Mutts and Mom made a few mistakes when letting Ellen have the dog. From not having the dog neutered and not transferring the micro chip to Ellen's address. Your not allowed to have a pet up for adopting that hasn't been neutered or spayed.
That's not true, you can adopt a dog out that isn't fixed - but the owner must sign a contract saying they will have the animal neutered.
I adopted my cat and had to leave a deposit. Once I brought back the receipt from the vet for his neutering I got my deposit back.
Also, as far as the chip is concerned - the owner is responsible for that also. When we got Misty she had a chip that we had to register and we also had to have her spayed.
Each rescue operates differently and there are no set rules - especially country wide.
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Posted 10/20/07 6:21 PM |
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Shanti
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
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Posted by Acerone
Mutts and Mom made a few mistakes when letting Ellen have the dog. From not having the dog neutered and not transferring the micro chip to Ellen's address. Your not allowed to have a pet up for adopting that hasn't been neutered or spayed.
That's not true, you can adopt a dog out that isn't fixed - but the owner must sign a contract saying they will have the animal neutered.
I adopted my cat and had to leave a deposit. Once I brought back the receipt from the vet for his neutering I got my deposit back.
Also, as far as the chip is concerned - the owner is responsible for that also. When we got Misty she had a chip that we had to register and we also had to have her spayed.
Each rescue operates differently and there are no set rules - especially country wide.
Gerty is right - it is the new owner's responsibility to update the microchip. And different organizations have different policies about the spaying/neutering of adopted animals.
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Posted 10/20/07 6:28 PM |
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Acerone
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
Posted by Shanti
Posted by Gertyrae
Posted by Acerone
Mutts and Mom made a few mistakes when letting Ellen have the dog. From not having the dog neutered and not transferring the micro chip to Ellen's address. Your not allowed to have a pet up for adopting that hasn't been neutered or spayed.
That's not true, you can adopt a dog out that isn't fixed - but the owner must sign a contract saying they will have the animal neutered.
I adopted my cat and had to leave a deposit. Once I brought back the receipt from the vet for his neutering I got my deposit back.
Also, as far as the chip is concerned - the owner is responsible for that also. When we got Misty she had a chip that we had to register and we also had to have her spayed.
Each rescue operates differently and there are no set rules - especially country wide.
Gerty is right - it is the new owner's responsibility to update the microchip. And different organizations have different policies about the spaying/neutering of adopted animals.
I thought I heard on the news in California it's the shelters responsibility.
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Posted 10/20/07 6:43 PM |
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Goobster
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Re: Petfinder explains the rationale for the agency's stance re: Ellen & Iggy's situation
Posted by DeniseMarie
From Ellen's point of view - she didn't know she was doing something wrong. She probably felt horrible that the children of her hairdresser were upset that the dog was taken away.
Well her girlfriend Portia did know, so obviously they don't communicate well. And why did Portia sign if it was Ellen's dog truly, that Ellen would give away and Portia would not tell her such vital info?
Doesnt sound like a good doggie home to me...glad that dog is out of there. Sorry Ellen...you dropped down a few notches in my book.
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Posted 10/21/07 3:35 AM |
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