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JenniferEver
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Please help me with this letter for work

Good? Bad? Suggestions?
ETA: This is not someone I want to burn bridges with and I'd like to continue to have a good working relationship with him...so please let me know if it's good in light of that

The letter explains everyhing, but I worked as a personal assistant to this guy for 4 months, then I started working on a show he was producing as Stage manager and associate producer. Right when it came time to negotiate how much I would get paid to Stage Manage (he was completely lowballing me), he started in on how I'm not a good assistant, and I didn't do this, this and this, which really upset me at the time because he had never communicated ANY of this before and was basically completely uncommunicative. Now, I feel like it was just a tactic to get me to accept a lower rate. Once rehearsal starte3d, he told me he could no longer pay me as a PA, that it was one or the other. I explained I'd be doing both inevitably (which I did), and suggested a higher total number for both, he reluctantly agreed instead to pay me hourly for that work, which I have not even bothered to bill for.

Dear Boss,
I think we really need to discuss when I will be paid the considerable balance remaining for my work as a PA and as SM. I have tried to be patient and polite, especially because I do like you and have enjoyed working with you and everyone on {the play} and I understand how much debt the production has. However, I worked very hard for months on this production, longer than the designers (who have already been paid), and did a lot of the work that made it such a success. I wish we had discussed it in more conrete terms at the time, but I assumed, as most people do, that I would be paid by load out, as is customary for a Stage Manager. It's been almost a month since then. We also agreed in our conversations during the week of the first rehearsal that I would be paid hourly for any PA work and work that did not fall under my job description as Stage Manager. Throughout rehearsals and the run of the show, I performed countless hours of work that did not fall under that category, such as fielding calls from press, buying props, spending hours dealing with the box office and ovation tix, communicating with designers on budgetary issues, liasing with equity and arclight staff, ordering and picking up programs, finding, hiring and training staff, etc,etc. It would have been impossible to even count those hours, which is why in the beginning I originally suggested one round number for both functions. Now I feel that even if I did bill for those hours, I would never see the money. I think the amount of time I've waited for this money (and my 1099 for 2006) is bordering the legal limits, and I'd rather not get into that with someone I consider a friend. I've tried to hint about how much I really do need the money, and I understand budgetary constraints, but most of everyone else has gotten paid. You would not have had a show without a Stage Manager and without my work as Associate Producer, and I think the amount of time that has gone by is ridiculous. Aside from the legal and financial considerations, I feel that my hard work and dedication throughout the past 6 months has not been appreciated. Please look over your budget and calendar and let's discuss a date by which I will be paid in full.

Thank you,
Jennifer

Message edited 2/27/2007 9:16:13 AM.

Posted 2/27/07 9:14 AM
 
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

I like the overall execution, and I think it is very well-written. The only 2 suggestions I have is this:

This statement seems rough in that it changes the mood: Now I feel that even if I did bill for those hours, I would never see the money. I might make it more along the lines of, "At this late date determining a far and just number for compensation of these tasks will be very difficult."

The second bit occurs here:
I think the amount of time I've waited for this money (and my 1099 for 2006) is bordering the legal limits, and I'd rather not get into that with someone I consider a friend. I would again soften it a little and maybe say, ..."I think the amount of time I've waited for this money (and my 1099 for 2006) is now causing me time restraints which could have legal repercussions on me & the timliness it will take to file my taxes efficiently. Since this relationship is borne of friendship I would be surprised and disappointed if further action to prevent late filing would need be taken."

I am sorry this guy is not paying you...what a load of crap...Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 2/27/07 9:27 AM
 

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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

its a realllly tough situation, and i don't envy you!

Instead of writing that you didn't even bother to bill for the hours (because that makes you seem like you don't care about that money, regardless of whether or not you're going to get it), I suggest typing up an invoice and attaching it to the letter - even if its technically too late.

Is there any kind of union, or anyone else you can go to for some help?

Posted 2/27/07 9:28 AM
 

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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

oh, and concrete is spelled "conrete"

Posted 2/27/07 9:29 AM
 

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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

IMO, ditch the letter

first rule of thumb professionally, never put anything in writing

it can and will be used against you.

Posted 2/27/07 9:34 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Thanks ladies!

HAHAHAHAHA A union! I wish!

It is SO effing hard to get into actors' equity.

If I WERE an equity member, I can assure you, this would NOT be happenning.

I think he felt like since I was his assistant anda producer and I was in on all the finances of the production I would understand, and I did understand that the actors who were in the union had to get paid first, and when I got 1/4 of my salary during the 2nd week, I was ok with that, but I am still waiting for a significant amount

At this point it just hurts because I really did work my butt off

ETA: Some people prefer to hire non-union people for this reason..they can screw them

Message edited 2/27/2007 9:37:15 AM.

Posted 2/27/07 9:35 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by CaptainCharisma424

IMO, ditch the letter

first rule of thumb professionally, never put anything in writing

it can and will be used against you.



Isn't it BETTER, then, to have it in writing? What do you suggest?

Posted 2/27/07 9:36 AM
 

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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by CaptainCharisma424

IMO, ditch the letter

first rule of thumb professionally, never put anything in writing

it can and will be used against you.



I 100% agree with this. Use the letter as a point reference for a conversation you have with your boss. If you email this to him it can and will be forwarded to his boss, the HR director, the Pres

I wouldn't put it in a physical form
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Posted 2/27/07 9:36 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by jxnoscar

Posted by CaptainCharisma424

IMO, ditch the letter

first rule of thumb professionally, never put anything in writing

it can and will be used against you.



I 100% agree with this. Use the letter as a point reference for a conversation you have with your boss. If you email this to him it can and will be forwarded to his boss, the HR director, the Pres

I wouldn't put it in a physical form
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He is the boss. There's no HR director. I worked for him as personal assistant and as Stage Manager in the theatre company he runs. There's no one he can forward it to.

Is there someone wrong in the letter that I would not want someone else to see?

I would rather do the email becuase A) that's how we communicate and B) so I can lay it all out without him playing games

ETA: Theatre is a very personal business and there is no corporate structure to speak of. In any case, he reports to no one.

Message edited 2/27/2007 9:40:05 AM.

Posted 2/27/07 9:38 AM
 

Christine
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

I wouldn't send the letter either. Request a meeting and use the issues in your letter as a guideline to help you stay focused on your points.

I would prepare a bill for what you are due for the PA & SM work with a due date. Itemize all the tasks and time so he sees in black & white how much responsibility you took on and how much time it took to do it.

I wouldn't refer to who else got paid since that's not really your business (even though you know about it). I would also avoid referring to your friendship as a means to get this guy to do the right thing.

Good luck!! It's really crappy that you have to ask to be paid!

Posted 2/27/07 10:00 AM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

I'm still not really understanding why the email is a bad thing?

If I take your advice, should I then just send an email saying "Could we please st up a meeting to discuss my payment schedule?"

The thing that makes this different from a normal corporate job is that I've worked for him remotely, from my home office and on site at rehearsals and performances. So unless we're discussing specific production issues AND I need to get or give something to him, we really never have meetings. It's mostly email. So I feel like it would be strange to suddenly be so formal and request a meeting.

I guess it's hard to explain how different the structure is than a normal corporate setting. For example, the first words in a recent phone call were "what a f---king lunatic!!!" in response to our email dealings with one of the designers.

And the reason I know the designers got paid is because I handed the checks to most of them, I cleared their expense receipts, etc. In that light, don't you think it is important to point out that I am the ONLY person who has not been paid?

Posted 2/27/07 12:00 PM
 

jxnoscar
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

send an email saying you want to sit down and meet

We are saying to not put it in writing as a means of protection. no matter if your work is corporate structured or not, it is still business.Chat Icon

Posted 2/27/07 12:05 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by jxnoscar

send an email saying you want to sit down and meet

We are saying to not put it in writing as a means of protection. no matter if your work is corporate structured or not, it is still business.Chat Icon




But what could possibly be incriminating about the letter? If anything it shows in writing that I am trying to amicably settle the matter.

Maybe I sound stupid, but I just don't understand.

Posted 2/27/07 12:07 PM
 

nov04libride
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by jxnoscar

send an email saying you want to sit down and meet

We are saying to not put it in writing as a means of protection. no matter if your work is corporate structured or not, it is still business.Chat Icon




But what could possibly be incriminating about the letter? If anything it shows in writing that I am trying to amicably settle the matter.

Maybe I sound stupid, but I just don't understand.



You're talking about your feelings, what has happened to other people...None of this is relevant. It may seem relevant, but it isn't. If you went to a work meeting and said "But xyz got paid" or "xyz makes more" they would laugh.

Like the sentence "I feel that my hard work and dedication throughout the past 6 months has not been appreciated." You are an employee, not in a relationship. He doesn't have to appreciate you, thank you. He should pay you. I think your feelings are mudding up the content.

Message edited 2/27/2007 12:13:47 PM.

Posted 2/27/07 12:12 PM
 

Christine
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by JenniferEver

I'm still not really understanding why the email is a bad thing?

If I take your advice, should I then just send an email saying "Could we please st up a meeting to discuss my payment schedule?"

The thing that makes this different from a normal corporate job is that I've worked for him remotely, from my home office and on site at rehearsals and performances. So unless we're discussing specific production issues AND I need to get or give something to him, we really never have meetings. It's mostly email. So I feel like it would be strange to suddenly be so formal and request a meeting.

I guess it's hard to explain how different the structure is than a normal corporate setting. For example, the first words in a recent phone call were "what a f---king lunatic!!!" in response to our email dealings with one of the designers.

And the reason I know the designers got paid is because I handed the checks to most of them, I cleared their expense receipts, etc. In that light, don't you think it is important to point out that I am the ONLY person who has not been paid?



I understand it's an informal atmosphere. I just think something like compensation justifies some sort of face to face meeting. You don't have to formally request a meeting but I don't understand not wanting to resolve it face to face. It's hard to blow you off in person and it's harder to say no or not now.

I know how and why you know the designers were paid but it doesn't matter that they were or if they were not. The point is you were not paid and I think the coversation should focus on what you have done and what you have not been paid for. The budget constraints etc is not important - they agreed to pay you and they should.

Posted 2/27/07 12:15 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by nov04libride

Posted by JenniferEver

Posted by jxnoscar

send an email saying you want to sit down and meet

We are saying to not put it in writing as a means of protection. no matter if your work is corporate structured or not, it is still business.Chat Icon




But what could possibly be incriminating about the letter? If anything it shows in writing that I am trying to amicably settle the matter.

Maybe I sound stupid, but I just don't understand.



You're talking about your feelings, what has happened to other people...None of this is relevant. It may seem relevant, but it isn't. If you went to a work meeting and said "But xyz got paid" or "xyz makes more" they would laugh.



I see what you're saying. Would it ever be appropriate to mention it in a meeting? I can just see him saying he has no money, but they found the money to pay for everyone else, and being one of the "in" people in the production I was understanding. Is there a way to bring that up and not sound like a baby? Because I think it's important. They HAD the money to pay everyone else, but when it comes to be (I guess because I am a company member), now they don't have it.

Posted 2/27/07 12:16 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

These are good points. I'm glad I asked before sending it!

I'm just really new to this, and it's a difficult line because I worked for him as a personal assistant in a very casual, friendly relationship (for example I was invited to his birthday party), and theatre in general is usually like that, at least at this level. But I've honestly NEVER had a problem like this in being paid. Even the smallest companies with shows that did not do well paid me by the time the show closed.

So I want to be professional, but I don't want to be so formal as to suddenly change the relationship and make him feel like "Why didn't she just talk to me first?"

Posted 2/27/07 12:20 PM
 

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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by JenniferEver

So I want to be professional, but I don't want to be so formal as to suddenly change the relationship and make him feel like "Why didn't she just talk to me first?"




Have you spoken to him about it yet? If not, I would give him a call and say "Just following up on when I can expect the remainder of the payment for xyz." Do you have anything from him stating the amount you will get paid? If not a contract, even an email? In the future I would make sure to have all important money matters in writing--I know it will not be as formal as a large corporation, but even an email or note will hold up if you have to take him to small claims court.

Posted 2/27/07 12:25 PM
 

JenniferEver
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Re: Please help me with this letter for work

Posted by nov04libride

Posted by JenniferEver

So I want to be professional, but I don't want to be so formal as to suddenly change the relationship and make him feel like "Why didn't she just talk to me first?"




Have you spoken to him about it yet? If not, I would give him a call and say "Just following up on when I can expect the remainder of the payment for xyz." Do you have anything from him stating the amount you will get paid? If not a contract, even an email? In the future I would make sure to have all important money matters in writing--I know it will not be as formal as a large corporation, but even an email or note will hold up if you have to take him to small claims court.



I am going to work on getting a contract that I will get all of the producers to sign in the future. I do have an invoice that I sent him several times. Hopefully I won't have to take him to court.

Posted 2/27/07 12:28 PM
 
 

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