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ChrisDee
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Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
What qualifications to Socials Workers have to do counseling? Can they do the same job as a psychologist. I believe there is a vast difference in education but honestly do not know too much about the difference between the two. Please enlighten me
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Posted 2/10/11 10:31 AM |
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MrsPornStar
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
A social worker has a masters in social work while a psychologist has a Ph.D. In order to practice therapy and be able to bill insurance companies, a social worker must be licensed. First a social worker must take the LMSW exam. Then when they have enough hours they can take the LCSW exam. Both will allow you to practice but most insurance companies want a person with a LMSW to have their reports co-signed by a LCSW.
A psychologist is able to do psychological testing as well as therapy.
What I find to be the true difference between the 2 is the type of theory employed. Both are very capable of helping a person. It all depends on what theory they follow and how they view things.
Hope this helps.
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Posted 2/10/11 10:36 AM |
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bicosi
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
Posted by MrsPornStar
A social worker has a masters in social work while a psychologist has a Ph.D. In order to practice therapy and be able to bill insurance companies, a social worker must be licensed. First a social worker must take the LMSW exam. Then when they have enough hours they can take the LCSW exam. Both will allow you to practice but most insurance companies want a person with a LMSW to have their reports co-signed by a LCSW.
A psychologist is able to do psychological testing as well as therapy.
What I find to be the true difference between the 2 is the type of theory employed. Both are very capable of helping a person. It all depends on what theory they follow and how they view things.
Hope this helps.
This was soo beautifully put!!
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Posted 2/10/11 10:43 AM |
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TooMuchDrama
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
I also like what the PP wrote for an explanation!
I am a Licensed Social Worker, and I do counseling within a non profit agency. Like the PP said, social workers do not do testing, and focus on "talk therapy". I use a lot of behavior modification and cognitive behavioral therapy with my clients (mostly adolescents).
Also, I have heard that a lot of people will go see a social worker over a psychologist because social workers are generally a lot cheaper.
ETA: I went to college and graduated with a degree in psychology. For graduate school, a GRE exam was required (kind of like the SATs). I didn't do so well on them, so I re-evaluated, and decided to go to grad school for social work instead. I felt like I didn't want to do the testing that is part of psychology, so social work seemed like a better fit for me.
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Posted 2/10/11 11:19 AM |
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MrsPornStar
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
Posted by bicosi
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A social worker has a masters in social work while a psychologist has a Ph.D. In order to practice therapy and be able to bill insurance companies, a social worker must be licensed. First a social worker must take the LMSW exam. Then when they have enough hours they can take the LCSW exam. Both will allow you to practice but most insurance companies want a person with a LMSW to have their reports co-signed by a LCSW.
A psychologist is able to do psychological testing as well as therapy.
What I find to be the true difference between the 2 is the type of theory employed. Both are very capable of helping a person. It all depends on what theory they follow and how they view things.
Hope this helps.
This was soo beautifully put!!
Thank you! I am a licensed social worker
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Posted 2/10/11 11:19 AM |
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Argyle808
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
I can't comment on the differences in qualifications, but I believe that the level of comfort you feel with your therapist is far more important than the initials that come after his/her name.
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Posted 2/10/11 11:51 AM |
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AScottWolf
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
Keep in mind also that you have other professions (Licensed Mental Health Counselor and Marriage and Family Therapist) aside from SW'ers and Psychologists (Ph.D, Psy.D).
Industrial/Organization and School Psychologists are licensed at the Masters Level, not just doctorate.
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Posted 2/10/11 11:58 AM |
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
The economy $ucks all around right now for the helping professions, but I would also like to chime in and say that you may be a lot more marketable as a social worker vs. a psychologist. I know a few people who became school psychologists who have never been able to find steady employment in NYS.
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Posted 2/10/11 12:51 PM |
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ChrisDee
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker
Do social workers take insurance like a Psychologist does?
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Posted 2/10/11 12:55 PM |
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
They can, yes.
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Posted 2/10/11 1:01 PM |
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jj8182
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Posted by bicosi
Posted by MrsPornStar
A social worker has a masters in social work while a psychologist has a Ph.D. In order to practice therapy and be able to bill insurance companies, a social worker must be licensed. First a social worker must take the LMSW exam. Then when they have enough hours they can take the LCSW exam. Both will allow you to practice but most insurance companies want a person with a LMSW to have their reports co-signed by a LCSW.
A psychologist is able to do psychological testing as well as therapy.
What I find to be the true difference between the 2 is the type of theory employed. Both are very capable of helping a person. It all depends on what theory they follow and how they view things.
Hope this helps.
This was soo beautifully put!!
I agree!
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Posted 2/10/11 1:14 PM |
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jj8182
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Posted by ChrisDee
Do social workers take insurance like a Psychologist does?
In New York State, you need an "R" to be able to receive money from insurance. I don't know if it's changed, but in order to get the "R" credential, an LCSW has to have 6 years of postgraduate professional supervision.
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Posted 2/10/11 1:14 PM |
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FireBelle10
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Psychologists have much more training and are much more highly skilled with regard to treating a wider variety of mental health issues and severe psychopathology than social workers, IMO, which is obviously biased because I am a psychologist. We can also do psychological testing. The theoretical approach used by social workers can be dramatically different from that of a psychologist. Are you asking from the perspective of someone seeking treatment or from a career perspective?
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Posted 2/10/11 1:43 PM |
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FireBelle10
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Posted by mzsocialworker1
The economy $ucks all around right now for the helping professions, but I would also like to chime in and say that you may be a lot more marketable as a social worker vs. a psychologist. I know a few people who became school psychologists who have never been able to find steady employment in NYS.
I think this depends on the type of job you are pursuing. Not all psychologists are school psychologists, and while it is true that there are more school psychologists than there are positions, the same does not hold true for a clinical psychologist seeking employment in a hospital, clinic, private practice, etc.
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Posted 2/10/11 1:47 PM |
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MrsPornStar
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Posted by FireBelle10
Psychologists have much more training and are much more highly skilled with regard to treating a wider variety of mental health issues and severe psychopathology than social workers, IMO, which is obviously biased because I am a psychologist. We can also do psychological testing. The theoretical approach used by social workers can be dramatically different from that of a psychologist. Are you asking from the perspective of someone seeking treatment or from a career perspective?
This is not necessarily true. There are a lot of social workers with intensive training who can treat severe mental health issues just as well as a psychologist.
I do agree that the theoretical approach is different at times.
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Posted 2/10/11 2:02 PM |
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ChrisDee
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Posted by FireBelle10
Psychologists have much more training and are much more highly skilled with regard to treating a wider variety of mental health issues and severe psychopathology than social workers, IMO, which is obviously biased because I am a psychologist. We can also do psychological testing. The theoretical approach used by social workers can be dramatically different from that of a psychologist. Are you asking from the perspective of someone seeking treatment or from a career perspective?
Looking for treatment.
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Posted 2/10/11 2:29 PM |
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Posted by MrsPornStar
Posted by FireBelle10
Psychologists have much more training and are much more highly skilled with regard to treating a wider variety of mental health issues and severe psychopathology than social workers, IMO, which is obviously biased because I am a psychologist. We can also do psychological testing. The theoretical approach used by social workers can be dramatically different from that of a psychologist. Are you asking from the perspective of someone seeking treatment or from a career perspective?
This is not necessarily true. There are a lot of social workers with intensive training who can treat severe mental health issues just as well as a psychologist.
I do agree that the theoretical approach is different at times.
I agree. I know many a social worker who could blow some MDs out of the water with their overall knowledge and skills.
If the mental health issues are extreme, the social worker is also going to work very closely with the person's doctor, psychiatrist, community support network, etc. as well.
It sometimes takes a village. I have many people I work with who have both psychologists, as well as social workers on their team.
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Posted 2/10/11 2:40 PM |
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MrsA1012
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
Posted by FireBelle10
Psychologists have much more training and are much more highly skilled with regard to treating a wider variety of mental health issues and severe psychopathology than social workers, IMO, which is obviously biased because I am a psychologist. We can also do psychological testing. The theoretical approach used by social workers can be dramatically different from that of a psychologist. Are you asking from the perspective of someone seeking treatment or from a career perspective?
That's not necessarily true There are social workers who have a Ph.D in clinical social work. Not all social workers work at the master level. Also, many social workers complete several years of post-graduate training at institutes. Finally, a good deal of the Ph.D and Psy.D programs are dedicated to teaching the student how to test, so those with a degree in psychology don't necessarily have that much more knowledge of psychotherapeutic methods than social workers. All that said, this not meant to put down anyone who is a psychologist. I have a great respect for all those in a helping but I don't necessarily agree with the statement above.
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Posted 2/10/11 6:26 PM |
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MrsA1012
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
nm. double post.
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Posted 2/10/11 6:27 PM |
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
I think its important to find out what is the therapist's approach to therapy, whatever their credential may be. Depending on the issue you are going for (if you know it), there may be one type of approach that is proven to be more effective than another- and one therapist may be more experienced in that or not. Different letters after one's name denote profession but not theory and approach, whether social worker, psychologist, psy d, etc.
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Posted 2/10/11 7:05 PM |
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curiousgeorge
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Re: Psychologist vs Social Worker**updated with another question down below
I see a Social worker for therapy and I love her. She is fantastic. If anyone needs a recommendation please FM me. She is located in Smithtown. She def is meant to do this, the title doesn't matter much to ME, she obviously is well trained and super caring.
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Posted 2/10/11 7:07 PM |
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