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Elizabeth
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Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Does anyone who knows about it care to correct me and/or enlighten me?
Is PDD-NOS sort of the last choice for how they classify a child that is on the spectrum? Does it actually have specific symptoms - meaning does a child have to have all the symptoms like speech delay and no eye contact? I have looked at different websites and seem to vary when it comes to the symptoms. I have other Q but I'm just trying to make sense of the actual term.
TIA
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
(i'm a spec. ed. teacher and have had many children with pdd.)
it's not a last choice. a child with pdd is not autistic but they have a lesser degree of the impairment. these kids are more likely to be verbal and have some degree of verbal or non-verbal effective communication than children with autism, yet they must have the autistic features (as per the DSM IV criteria) and a severe impairment in social interaction, communication,or repetitive stereotype behavior. symptoms do vary a lot. some have problems with eye contact, some use self stimulatory behaviors, etc.
i hope that made sense.
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jules
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by LoveBeingMrsT
(i'm a spec. ed. teacher and have had many children with pdd.)
it's not a last choice. a child with pdd is not autistic but they have a lesser degree of the impairment. these kids are more likely to be verbal and have some degree of verbal or non-verbal effective communication than children with autism, yet they must have the autistic features (as per the DSM IV criteria) and a severe impairment in social interaction, communication,or repetitive stereotype behavior. symptoms do vary a lot. some have problems with eye contact, some use self stimulatory behaviors, etc.
i hope that made sense.
OK then i am now confused. I thought that PDD was a title for a group of disorders. Specifically 5 in which someone would fall into.
Autism, Aspergers, Disintergrative Disorder, Rhetts and of course PDD-NOS. So that a child with PDD can in fact have autism. Autism is just ONE of the subcategories. PDD isn't a classification for someone with a lesser degree but rather PDD-NOS
That they all have general features that are common and that NOS is generally a child that has a lot of the features but not enough to fit into one of the other categories?
Often referred actually as atypical autism
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KPtoys
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
My nephew has PDD-NOS. My SIL always says that he is on the spectrum. He has a lot of autistic characteristics such as lack of eye contact, loss of speech etc. With the special school he is in, the use of a facilitated communicator (special computer) and lots of therapy he is starting to speak and even knows his ABCs
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jules
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by KPtoys
My nephew has PDD-NOS. My SIL always says that he is on the spectrum. He has a lot of autistic characteristics such as lack of eye contact, loss of speech etc. With the special school he is in, the use of a facilitated communicator (special computer) and lots of therapy he is starting to speak and even knows his ABCs
that is awesome. early intervention is sooo important!
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by jules
Posted by LoveBeingMrsT
(i'm a spec. ed. teacher and have had many children with pdd.)
it's not a last choice. a child with pdd is not autistic but they have a lesser degree of the impairment. these kids are more likely to be verbal and have some degree of verbal or non-verbal effective communication than children with autism, yet they must have the autistic features (as per the DSM IV criteria) and a severe impairment in social interaction, communication,or repetitive stereotype behavior. symptoms do vary a lot. some have problems with eye contact, some use self stimulatory behaviors, etc.
i hope that made sense.
OK then i am now confused. I thought that PDD was a title for a group of disorders. Specifically 5 in which someone would fall into.
Autism, Aspergers, Disintergrative Disorder, Rhetts and of course PDD-NOS. So that a child with PDD can in fact have autism. Autism is just ONE of the subcategories.
That they all have general features that are common and that NOS is generally a child that has a lot of the features but not enough to fit into one of the other categories?
Often referred actually as atypical autism
PDD is on the Autism spectrum.
http://www.autismspeaks.org/navigating/index.php
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by Summerrluvv
Posted by jules
Posted by LoveBeingMrsT
(i'm a spec. ed. teacher and have had many children with pdd.)
it's not a last choice. a child with pdd is not autistic but they have a lesser degree of the impairment. these kids are more likely to be verbal and have some degree of verbal or non-verbal effective communication than children with autism, yet they must have the autistic features (as per the DSM IV criteria) and a severe impairment in social interaction, communication,or repetitive stereotype behavior. symptoms do vary a lot. some have problems with eye contact, some use self stimulatory behaviors, etc.
i hope that made sense.
OK then i am now confused. I thought that PDD was a title for a group of disorders. Specifically 5 in which someone would fall into.
Autism, Aspergers, Disintergrative Disorder, Rhetts and of course PDD-NOS. So that a child with PDD can in fact have autism. Autism is just ONE of the subcategories.
That they all have general features that are common and that NOS is generally a child that has a lot of the features but not enough to fit into one of the other categories?
Often referred actually as atypical autism
PDD is on the Autism spectrum.
http://www.autismspeaks.org/navigating/index.php
I thought AUTISM is on the PDD spectrum. As is PDD-NOS
"Pervasive Developmental Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS) is a 'subthreshold' condition in which some - but not all - features of autism or another explicitly identified Pervasive Developmental Disorder are identified. PDD-NOS is often incorrectly referred to as simply "PDD." The term PDD refers to the class of conditions to which autism belongs. PDD is NOT itself a diagnosis, while PDD-NOS IS a diagnosis. The term Pervasive Developmental Disorder - Not Otherwise Specified (PDD-NOS; also referred to as "atypical personality development," "atypical PDD," or "atypical autism") is included in DSM-IV to encompass cases where there is marked impairment of social interaction, communication, and/or stereotyped behavior patterns or interest, but when full features for autism or another explicitly defined PDD are not met. "
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jules
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
And on that site that i just looked on it also said:
It should be emphasized that this ''subthreshold'' category is thus defined implicitly, that is, no specific guidelines for diagnosis are provided. While deficits in peer relations and unusual sensitivities are typically noted, social skills are less impaired than in classical autism. The lack of definition(s) for this relatively heterogeneous group of children presents problems for research on this condition. The limited available evidence suggest that children with PDD-NOS probably come to professional attention rather later than is the case with autistic children, and that intellectual deficits are less common.
To answer the original question.
Often the NOS diagnosis is when a person has a lot of the features that are required for diagnosis but not all of them to which would fit them in the category
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
No..PDD-NOS is on the autism spectrum. All those other sub-categories are also on the autsim spectrum.
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jules
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by Summerrluvv
No..PDD-NOS is on the autism spectrum. All those other sub-categories are also on the autsim spectrum.
actually we are both right there are one in the same according to the DSM
Listed below are the diagnostic criteria for the five Pervasive Developmental Disorders (PDDs), also known as Autism Spectrum Disorders (ASDs), as defined by the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders - Fourth Edition (DSM-IV),
and the categies under this title are in fact:
299.00 Autistic Disorder
299.80 Pervasive Developmental Disorder, Not Otherwise Specified
299.80 Asperger's Disorder
299.80 Rett's Disorder
299.10 Childhood Disintegrative Disorder
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by LoveBeingMrsT
(i'm a spec. ed. teacher and have had many children with pdd.)
it's not a last choice. a child with pdd is not autistic but they have a lesser degree of the impairment. these kids are more likely to be verbal and have some degree of verbal or non-verbal effective communication than children with autism, yet they must have the autistic features (as per the DSM IV criteria) and a severe impairment in social interaction, communication,or repetitive stereotype behavior. symptoms do vary a lot. some have problems with eye contact, some use self stimulatory behaviors, etc.
i hope that made sense.
I could not have said it better myself!!! 
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by jules
Posted by LoveBeingMrsT
(i'm a spec. ed. teacher and have had many children with pdd.)
it's not a last choice. a child with pdd is not autistic but they have a lesser degree of the impairment. these kids are more likely to be verbal and have some degree of verbal or non-verbal effective communication than children with autism, yet they must have the autistic features (as per the DSM IV criteria) and a severe impairment in social interaction, communication,or repetitive stereotype behavior. symptoms do vary a lot. some have problems with eye contact, some use self stimulatory behaviors, etc.
i hope that made sense.
OK then i am now confused. I thought that PDD was a title for a group of disorders. Specifically 5 in which someone would fall into.
Autism, Aspergers, Disintergrative Disorder, Rhetts and of course PDD-NOS. So that a child with PDD can in fact have autism. Autism is just ONE of the subcategories. PDD isn't a classification for someone with a lesser degree but rather PDD-NOS
That they all have general features that are common and that NOS is generally a child that has a lot of the features but not enough to fit into one of the other categories?
Often referred actually as atypical autism
Yes, PDD is what is considered an umbrella term where all those disorders fall under, but PDD-NOS is when the criteria does not necessarily "match up" for classic autism specifically...
ETA - looks like you figured it out via the DSM...
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jules
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Yes, PDD is what is considered an umbrella term where all those disorders fall under, but PDD-NOS is when the criteria does not necessarily "match up" for classic autism specifically...
ETA - looks like you figured it out via the DSM...
yup 
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Re: Qs about PDD-NOS (autism related Q)
Posted by jules
Yes, PDD is what is considered an umbrella term where all those disorders fall under, but PDD-NOS is when the criteria does not necessarily "match up" for classic autism specifically...
ETA - looks like you figured it out via the DSM...
yup
whenever I do conferences about autism - I always tell people that they can open up the DSM IV and read the checklist... I go into really how it translates into real life, although the saying goes, "You see one child with autism... you see ONE child with autism!!!" 
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