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angelicd77
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Name: Kim
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Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
If anyone can point me to where I can find an answer to this question I would appreciate it.
A friend of my has 2 teenaged daughters. They both tested positive for covid-19 (theyre both okay now thank god!) They were both tested weekly until they got their negatives. I believe they each got 3-4 positives prior to their negative tests. Does this mean that potentially their individual cases of covid-19 were counted as 6 or 8 different cases? That seriously changes things numbers wise if every persons tests were counted as "new positives" each time. I honestly don't know the answer to this so hopefully someone can point me in the right direction.
Disclaimer- I don't want any BS on this post. I've seen enough of the mean girl cr*ap and I'm over it. Please stick to the topic. Thanks!!!
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Posted 7/22/20 12:33 PM |
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RainyDay
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Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
Not sure but thats a great question
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Posted 7/22/20 12:35 PM |
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LittleDiva
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Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
I think they usually state “new positive cases”. Could be wrong but I think that’s what I usually hear, so I’d assume they aren’t counted but who knows.
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Posted 7/22/20 12:44 PM |
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Sash
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
I was always curious about this as well and brought it weeks ago. My cousin was sick with this crap for two months. She tested positive 3 times before she tested negative. The last test was after Mother’s Day and was wondering if this was included in the #s when we had a spike.
She also had it since March and couldn’t get tested till April so tbh, her positive # should’ve been included in the March data.
Message edited 7/22/2020 12:47:49 PM.
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Posted 7/22/20 12:46 PM |
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BFNY516
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Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
According to the CDC page that shows testing data they state, “The number of positive tests in a state is not equal to the number of cases, as one person may be tested more than once.”
So that’s just testing data. Testing is different than cases.
Now this page represents cases and deaths: Link about Cases
“Data on the COVID-19 website and CDC’s COVID Data Tracker are based on the most recent numbers reported by states, territories, and other jurisdictions. Data are dependent on jurisdictions’ timely and accurate reporting.”
Link about Data
And that’s if someone opts to have trust in the CDC.
Message edited 7/22/2020 1:09:33 PM.
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Posted 7/22/20 1:03 PM |
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valentinesbaby
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Name: Valentines
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
I’ve always had that question too and with all these false positives lately, not sure I would believe they are not counting in those numbers too.. I really hope not though.
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Posted 7/22/20 1:26 PM |
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queensgal
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
Good question.
I typically follow the info on Johns Hopkins.
One thing that I think is misleading is all the focus on total cases. This number will only continue to get more misleading over time as people recover.
So for example CA just reached 400k positives and NY has almost the same. But active cases in CA are a lot higher since most of NYs peak back in April should be recovered by now. I think we should focus overall on active cases, not positive tests or totals.
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Posted 7/22/20 2:10 PM |
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Pomegranate5
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Name: Pomegranate5
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
Posted by queensgal
Good question.
I typically follow the info on Johns Hopkins.
One thing that I think is misleading is all the focus on total cases. This number will only continue to get more misleading over time as people recover.
So for example CA just reached 400k positives and NY has almost the same. But active cases in CA are a lot higher since most of NYs peak back in April should be recovered by now. I think we should focus overall on active cases, not positive tests or totals.
I agree. But no one seems to be actively tracking that.
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Posted 7/22/20 2:17 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Name: Shawn
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by queensgal
Good question.
I typically follow the info on Johns Hopkins.
One thing that I think is misleading is all the focus on total cases. This number will only continue to get more misleading over time as people recover.
So for example CA just reached 400k positives and NY has almost the same. But active cases in CA are a lot higher since most of NYs peak back in April should be recovered by now. I think we should focus overall on active cases, not positive tests or totals.
I agree. But no one seems to be actively tracking that.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
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Posted 7/22/20 2:19 PM |
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Pomegranate5
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by Pomegranate5
Posted by queensgal
Good question.
I typically follow the info on Johns Hopkins.
One thing that I think is misleading is all the focus on total cases. This number will only continue to get more misleading over time as people recover.
So for example CA just reached 400k positives and NY has almost the same. But active cases in CA are a lot higher since most of NYs peak back in April should be recovered by now. I think we should focus overall on active cases, not positive tests or totals.
I agree. But no one seems to be actively tracking that.
https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us
What I mean is, who is determining when someone is recovered and how is that being recorded? That link says NY has over 140,000 active cases, but where are they? We've had less than 1000 new cases per day since the beginning of June. So that total count doesn't seem accurate. KWIM?
ETA: I think total current hospitalizations is the best and most accurate indicator of how we're doing.
Message edited 7/22/2020 2:27:14 PM.
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Posted 7/22/20 2:26 PM |
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
A reporter asked this question a few weeks ago after one of the Cuomo daily briefings (I always stay for all the questions, sometimes the local networks cut away from the programming and I have to switch channels or go to the NY Gov website to see all of it) and Cuomo basically said "No, every positive case gets a specific ID number and that person's results do not get included in any future positive test number".
So no, if someone keeps testing positive, that result is not included in any future positive #s.
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Posted 7/22/20 3:51 PM |
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Re: Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
I used to read that site but found problems with its accuracy. For starters, about 3 days passed without ZERO input for Suffolk County. Then when the data was entered, it looked like Suffolk Cty one day had 175 cases when in reality it was only 30-50 cases over the course of 3 days. So there is a problem with the timing. They are continually adding numbers so its very suspicious as to whether those are legitimate numbers (not to mention the fact that some states have admitted an issue with false positive lab results - https://www.nbcconnecticut.com/news/coronavirus/state-says-90-positive-covid-9-test-results-were-false/2304893/
Also, if you read all the data going back to April for some countries and states, there are numerous corrections which admit "numbers were updated as of July __ because of inaccurate count from health departments".This in turn affects how curves can look for specific states/countries because now with CORRECTED data, either the #s are better or worse depending on what the information reveals.
The best site continues to be the Johns Hopkins dashboard because they actually verify the data before including it on their website. The WorldMeters site is run by Google. and there are links for any regular Joe Schmo to write to them with numbers so there really is no way to 100% trust what is posted.
Message edited 7/22/2020 3:59:06 PM.
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Posted 7/22/20 3:54 PM |
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angelicd77
LIF Adolescent
Member since 12/13 794 total posts
Name: Kim
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Question about numbers of positive covid-19 cases
Thank you everyone!!!
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Posted 7/22/20 7:07 PM |
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