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heathergirl
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Runner's Gender Test Results....

Runner's Gender Tests Reveal...

Hmm...methinks I remember a very heated post about this...maybe this will put some people in perspective.

Posted 9/11/09 9:29 AM
 
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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

Posted by heathergirl

Runner's Gender Tests Reveal...

Hmm...methinks I remember a very heated post about this...maybe this will put some people in perspective.



I can't open it-what does it say?

Posted 9/11/09 10:26 AM
 

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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

Semenya's Gender Test Results Are In
Posted Sep 10, 2009 8:09 PM By The Associated Press(AP)Print Text Size A AA(Sept. 10) -- The IAAF has received the results of gender tests on Caster Semenya, winner of the women's 800-meter world title last month, and will meet with the South African runner before completing its report.
In an e-mail to The Associated Press, IAAF spokesman Nick Davies said Thursday he couldn't confirm a story in Australia's Sydney Morning Herald newspaper stating that tests show Semenya has male and female sexual organs.
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FILE - In this Thursday, Aug. 20, 2009 file photo, South Africa's gold medal winner Caster Semenya displays her medal after the ceremony for the Women's 800m final at the World Athletics Championships in Berlin. . (AP Photo/Markus Schreiber, File)

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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - SEPTEMBER 7: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses during an interview with a local newspaper, September 7, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels

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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - JULY 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses at an athletics stadium, July 30, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels

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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - JULY 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses at an athletics stadium, July 30, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels

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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - JULY 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African National athletics coach, Wilfred Daniels, poses at an athletics stadium, July 30, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. Daniels has quit Athletics South Africa (ASA) over the "repulsive handling" of the Caster Semenya gender debacle. Daniels resigned from all South African Athletics bodies in a letter sent to the ASA. He has been the head coach of SA teams since 1993. (Photo by Foto24/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Wilfred Daniels

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POLOKWANE, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) Caster Semenya greets the crowd during the street parade to celebrate her return to her home town of Masehlong village on August 30, 2009 in Polokwane, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya

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POLOKWANE, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African athlete Caster Semenya gestures outside a hut at her home town of Masehlong village on August 30, 2009 in Polokwane, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya

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JOHANNESBURG, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 24: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) South African athlete Caster Semenya poses outside the ASA offices in Rosebank on August 24, 2009 in Johannesburg, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya

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POLOKWANE, SOUTH AFRICA - AUGUST 30: (SOUTH AFRICA, UAE, BRAZIL OUT) Caster Semenya waves to the crowd during the street parade to celebrate her return to her home town of Masehlong village on August 30, 2009 in Polokwane, South Africa. South Africans have rallied behind Semenya in a national show of support sparked by an announcement last week by the governing body of athletics that she would have to undergo a battery of tests to verify her gender. (Photo by City Press/Gallo Images/Getty Images) *** Local Caption *** Caster Semenya

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"I simply haven't seen the results," Davies said. "We have received the results from Germany, but they now need to be examined by a group of experts and we will not be in a position to speak to the athlete about them for at least a few weeks.
"After that, depending on the results, we will meet privately with the athlete to discuss further action."
The Australian newspaper reported in its Friday edition that medical reports on the 18-year-old Semenya indicate she has no ovaries, but rather has internal male testes, which are producing large amounts of testosterone.
Davies said the newspaper's report "should be treated with caution."
After dominating her race at the world championships in Berlin last month, Semenya underwent blood and chromosome tests, as well as a gynecological examination.
The IAAF has said Semenya probably would keep her medal because the case was not related to a doping matter.
"Our legal advice is that, if she proves to have an advantage because of the male hormones, then it will be extremely difficult to strip the medal off her, since she has not cheated," Davies wrote to the AP. "She was naturally made that way, and she was entered in Berlin by her team and accepted by the IAAF. But let's wait and see once we have the final decision."
The South African Press Association reported that the country's president of athletics hadn't been informed of any reports by the IAAF.
"These are insulting words that the media are using, but we are in the dark," SAPA quoted Leonard Chuene as telling The Star newspaper. "We just don't know what affect this information will have on her deep down. This process is not correct."

AP Sports Writer Howard Fendrich in New York contributed to this report.
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Posted 9/11/09 10:28 AM
 

rojerono
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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

So it's still not officially determined what sex she is??

Posted 9/11/09 10:36 AM
 

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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

The makeover in You! magazine made me feel so sad for her (and I'm use her because that is how SHE identifies herself). It seems like she did it to prove a point, not because she prefers to dress that way - no matter what the magazine reported.

Posted by rojerono

So it's still not officially determined what sex she is??



Right. The report needs to be read but it appears there is an intergender/hermaphrodite issue.

Posted 9/11/09 10:45 AM
 

Ophelia
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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

I think this is just AWFUL.

why is the "discussion" with the athlete to remain private but the results of a GENDER test open to the public.

do we even know what kind of ridicule she could face? does anyone even care?

it's funny b/c dh and i were actually talking about that the other day...what would we do if our child was born a hermaphrodite......how do we decide which sex to raise the child b/c you never know what hormones will be the more dominant once puberty kicks in.

she was raised a GIRL by her parents. if you dont'want to let her run anymore, fine...but to do THIS....to do this to HER..is just despicable. Chat Icon

I hope she is ok. Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 9/11/09 10:51 AM
 

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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

I feel so bad for her. This is no one's business but her own Chat Icon I understand that people are worried about fairness in races. But if she was raised as a girl, and feels that she is a girl, who are we to question that? And to make it so public...it's just horrible.

Posted 9/11/09 10:57 AM
 

MarathonKnitter
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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

i feel terrible about the whole thing

Posted 9/11/09 11:08 AM
 

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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

Posted by heathergirl

Runner's Gender Tests Reveal...

Hmm...methinks I remember a very heated post about this...maybe this will put some people in perspective.



Eh, this article is really not stating much other than heresay.

All I really got from it is that an Austrailian paper is prematurely claiming that "she has no ovaries, but rather has internal male testes, which are producing large amounts of testosterone."

Is it possible that the Aussie paper is correct? Sure. But I think until an offical statement and ruling is handed down we just need to wait and see how this plays out.

If in the end the Aussie paper was correct then they really need to figure out what to do with her b/c it does seem that with the additional testosterone he/she does have an advantage.

Bottom line - I feel very bad for this athlete and that all of this is happening under the glare of the media spotlight and I don't envy the governing body that will have to decide the fate of this person's athletic career.

Bad situation all around.

Posted 9/11/09 11:28 AM
 

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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

As hard as it is for her to deal with I think that everyone involved knew her physical and medical background if what is reported is true. If it comes out that she is physically male how could doctors, trainers..etc. not know?

Posted 9/11/09 11:47 AM
 

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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

My husband had a child in his class a few years back that was a hemaphrodite. The child had MAJOR self esteem issues.

I feel so sad that they are making such a huge PUBLIC issue of this. They need to take a step back and deal with this in private and let the results be known at the end. Not drag this out for the poor child.

Posted 9/11/09 2:09 PM
 

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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

Posted by Ophelia

I think this is just AWFUL.

why is the "discussion" with the athlete to remain private but the results of a GENDER test open to the public.

do we even know what kind of ridicule she could face? does anyone even care?

it's funny b/c dh and i were actually talking about that the other day...what would we do if our child was born a hermaphrodite......how do we decide which sex to raise the child b/c you never know what hormones will be the more dominant once puberty kicks in.

she was raised a GIRL by her parents. if you dont'want to let her run anymore, fine...but to do THIS....to do this to HER..is just despicable. Chat Icon

I hope she is ok. Chat Icon Chat Icon




ITA with you ! This poor woman Chat Icon

Posted 9/11/09 2:14 PM
 

heathergirl
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Re: Runner's Gender Test Results....

Posted by Ophelia

I think this is just AWFUL.

why is the "discussion" with the athlete to remain private but the results of a GENDER test open to the public.

do we even know what kind of ridicule she could face? does anyone even care?

it's funny b/c dh and i were actually talking about that the other day...what would we do if our child was born a hermaphrodite......how do we decide which sex to raise the child b/c you never know what hormones will be the more dominant once puberty kicks in.

she was raised a GIRL by her parents. if you dont'want to let her run anymore, fine...but to do THIS....to do this to HER..is just despicable. Chat Icon

I hope she is ok. Chat Icon Chat Icon



Thank you Ophelia! You said exactly what I wanted to say, only better.

I can only imagine how painful such scrutiny is...and I don't think its anybody's business. This is definitely an issue that should have been kept private; but unfortunately, certain people felt the need to make an issue out of her and put out there. It makes no sense Chat Icon

Posted 9/11/09 2:17 PM
 
 

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