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MST9106
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Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Our 4 year old boxer has been suffering from skin problems for the longest time. At first the vet thought it was Demodex mange, then food allergies, and at this point they have no idea what it is. His skin did get a little better with the venison mix that we get from the vet, but lately it has gotten bad again. We tried bathing him with the special shampoos and leave-in conditioners and nothing...we don't know what to do anymore. He is a happy dog overall but scratches himself ALL THE TIME and seems so miserable when he gets those bumps all over his body! Sometimes I wish I could put him out of his misery.
Has anybody experience this with their dogs? Thanks!
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Posted 12/15/07 12:09 AM |
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LifeIsGreat
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
http://www.livs.org/
http://www.livs.org/LIVSDermatologyDepartmentStaff.htm#panich
Dr. Panich is top in the field of Dermatology.
Often dogs that have Demodex which can be chronic/lifetime and trigged by stresses etc. are treated with Ivermectin and an antibiotic. This is definitely treatable and if you want to get the right diagnosis, contact the above.
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Posted 12/15/07 3:28 PM |
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MsMBV
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Boxers are prone to skin allergies and other topical issues. If you want to get some good first hand info to bring to your vet, you can try contacting the Boxer org/contact on the AKC.org website.
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Posted 12/15/07 8:44 PM |
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LifeIsGreat
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
If you want to know what is wrong with the dog bring him to a specialist that treats skin diseases...Dr. Panich is the best, no one else comes close. Websites and breed rescue are not vets.
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Posted 12/15/07 8:55 PM |
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Novem05
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
I have 2 boxers, a 2 1/2 year old male and 1 year old female, our male had skin issues for a long time. It took us a while to figure out but it wound up being his food. We changed his food about 5 times and finally got it under control. He is now on Canidae All Stages. Our vet kept telling us it was food but I was skeptical too. We tried all the shampoos and conditioners and nothing seemed to work. I would suggest trying a new food. Wellness also cleared him up, unfortunelty it gave the puppy the runs and it was too hard to feed them two different foods.
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Posted 12/15/07 10:02 PM |
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MsMBV
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Posted by LifeIsGreat
If you want to know what is wrong with the dog bring him to a specialist that treats skin diseases...Dr. Panich is the best, no one else comes close. Websites and breed rescue are not vets. I am not suggesting that breeders or rescues are vets, all I am suggesting is that someone with breed experience may offer some good questions for the OP to ask the vet (whomever the vet may be). It never hurts to get information and be prepared to ask questions regarding a pet.
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Posted 12/15/07 10:20 PM |
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LifeIsGreat
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
I am familiar with both as I am involved in animal rescue. The reason I suggested Dr. Panich is because she will nail it on the head. Top in her field. I have rescued over 1,000 dogs and would say approximately 25% had serious skin conditions. Rescued a dog recently with severe demodex mange, she is treated with Ivermectin and an anitibiotic, starts with high dosage and each day it decreases to the point it is only the anitibiotic and then that gradually is eliminated. Ivermectin can be injectable or oral. Should the condition resurface, a dose of ivermectin once per week would clear it up..can be injected into food. Today received a call from a man who stated he thinks the kitten he rescued has ringworm, he spent so many $$$ at pet supply store and kitten still has hair loss, has yet to go to a vet. That is what I am referring to. I must honestly say that some of the concerns that owners have posted are serious and I am at a loss as to why they have not taken their pet to a vet. What would they do if the same thing happened to them, they would go to a doctor. Just strange.
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Posted 12/16/07 12:13 AM |
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LifeIsGreat
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
I wanted to address the food change also..yes when there is a change it can cause runs etc. The vet will recommend you slowly change. 3/4 old, 1/4 new and each time less old and more new.
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Posted 12/16/07 12:16 AM |
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MsMBV
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Posted by LifeIsGreat
I must honestly say that some of the concerns that owners have posted are serious and I am at a loss as to why they have not taken their pet to a vet. I would tend to agree, and if you ever see any of my past posts, you will see that I always recommend consulting a vet. I do think that it is equally as important to have some basis of reference going into a visit with a vet, even if it is the top vet in their field, so that the owner will be empowered to take an active interest in their pet's care not only for the condition they are worried about, but for future care as well.
I too am surprised at how often people feel like their vet is not approachable, or how they feel that the trip to a vet is a waste. I personally make certain that I feel comfortable asking my vet anything, and also make certain that they are willing to take the time to discuss my pet with me,....just as I would expect one of my doctors to do about my own health.
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Posted 12/16/07 6:46 PM |
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Anniegrl
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Bama is a 3 year old Boxer and he's never had any skin problems, so I can't really offer any advice other than going to www.boxerworld.com and doing a search (or posting if you don't find an answer). Other Boxer owners, including Boxer breeders, sometimes know more than vets do. With so many breeds, I imagine it's hard for vets to know everything about every breed. I'm not saying not to go to a vet, but you can always get a second opinion from Boxer owners
And I second trying Canidae. That's what Bama eats.
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Posted 12/16/07 8:53 PM |
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LifeIsGreat
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Most vets will nail it down to the right diagnosis. The reason I recommeded Dr. Panich is because the Boxer owner states this is an ongoing situation and the vet does not know what is wrong. Dr. Panich would know with her eyes closed. I am involved in rescue and have seen it all, I know one visit to Panich and the dog is on the road to recovery, no guessing games, that is all I meant. As for the other matter, yes what is wrong with owners that do not understand that just like them when sick you must see a doctor. How can someone post my pet is sick for days or my pet is letargic etc. etc. and not do anything and expect advice on a post forum.
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Posted 12/16/07 9:10 PM |
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MST9106
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Thanks everyone...we will try the Canidea...its definitely the food though bc when we sometimes would give him table scraps, he would break out...poor thing...how can I not give him a piece of bacon once in a while.
ETA: If you read my original post, we HAVE been going to the vet with our dog and we have tried various treatments with him...so I don't understand why some posters are saying that they don't understand why we're not taking him to the vet
Message edited 12/16/2007 11:35:37 PM.
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Posted 12/16/07 11:32 PM |
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LifeIsGreat
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
I stated that because the original post said the vet that saw the dog did not know what was wrong. I normally would not list the name of a doctor, however, in this case I did so because I am involved in animal rescue, almost 1,000 dogs off the street in the past 10 years with many, many having skin conditions. I know for fact that Dr. Panich would know on the spot. I have taken dogs off the street that looked like monstsers, years of suffering untreated. Today they are all healthy. Truth of the matter is that most regular vets do not know how to treat chonic skin conditions and both the patient and owner sometimes go from one treatment to another. I will remember not to give out the right information on future posts.
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Posted 12/17/07 12:35 AM |
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Posted by LifeIsGreat
I will remember not to give out the right information on future posts. I am not certain why this is going so ugly. I think it is perfectly fine to give out valuable information, and made no criticism toward you or your post. All I am saying is that no matter how good the vet is (and I am not arguing that your recommendation is bad at all), that the owner of the dog is ultimately responsible for the dog's care, and it is never a bad idea to get information to ask the vet. That is all. No need to get defensive or to feel attacked.
BTW, I have used several doctors from LIVS and would highly recommend many of them, as several of my rescues have been there.
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Posted 12/17/07 8:47 AM |
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LifeIsGreat
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
My post was not in response to your post. I was actually agreeing with what you said.
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Posted 12/17/07 8:53 AM |
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Novem05
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
I also forgot to mention the vet gave us a rub called Chlorhexiderm that we put on his neck which takes away the redness. We use it when he looks like he's starting to scratch, it seems to help.
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Posted 12/17/07 9:49 AM |
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MST9106
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Re: Skin problems in Boxers or in any other dogs
Posted by LifeIsGreat
I stated that because the original post said the vet that saw the dog did not know what was wrong. I normally would not list the name of a doctor, however, in this case I did so because I am involved in animal rescue, almost 1,000 dogs off the street in the past 10 years with many, many having skin conditions. I know for fact that Dr. Panich would know on the spot. I have taken dogs off the street that looked like monstsers, years of suffering untreated. Today they are all healthy. Truth of the matter is that most regular vets do not know how to treat chonic skin conditions and both the patient and owner sometimes go from one treatment to another. I will remember not to give out the right information on future posts.
I think your initial post was a bit confusing...I appreciate your advice and the information that you have given as you are obviously very knowledgeable on the topic.
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Posted 12/17/07 9:58 AM |
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