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Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

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SweetestOfPeas
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Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Obama was raised by his white mother with a lot of help from her parents (obviously white). so we were wondering why he is referred to as African American. is it b/c he looks more black than white?

and what if he married a white woman?

just some mindless dinner chatter Chat Icon but I am curious nonetheless.

Posted 11/4/08 8:43 PM
 
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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

it's b/c he looks black.

my uncles wife is half white, half black just like Obama, but has white skin and features (but her hair is more of a mixed texture)

no one ever thinks of her as African American.

she would never be described as African American...even though a full half of her IS.

it's just our way of categorizing..for better or for worse.

Posted 11/4/08 8:47 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Been there done that on LIF Chat Icon

Posted 11/4/08 8:49 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

interesting. I had a similar conversation with my mother last night.

My son is Puerto Rican.

I told my mother if Barak wins it will send a nice message to my son that he can be whatever he wants, no racial boundries.

My mother says, silly...he will always know he can be whatever he wants to be.

God forbid, something happens to DH and I move home. My white parents and I raise Josh.

If Josh runs for president, he will still be a hispanic president, even though he was raised by white people.

People would say no hispanic president, he will probably let illegal mexicans come and stay.

she hung up. she's voting for McCain.

I think even if Obama married white, he would still be seen as a black man.

Posted 11/4/08 8:53 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Self-identification, I guess?

Take Derek Jeter. Do you think of him as white? African-American? or just plain Derek Jeter? Chat Icon


Posted 11/4/08 8:53 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by lilacwine

Self-identification, I guess?

Take Derek Jeter. Do you think of him as white? African-American? or just plain Derek Jeter? Chat Icon





just Derek...nothing plain about himChat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 11/4/08 8:54 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by lilacwine

Self-identification, I guess?

Take Derek Jeter. Do you think of him as white? African-American? or just plain Derek Jeter? Chat Icon



I generally think of him as 'give me some of that'!

Posted 11/4/08 8:55 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

I *think* technically if one of your grandparents is African American you would consider your self African American.

Posted 11/4/08 8:56 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

My son, since he will have a Hispanic surname, will be looked at as a hispanic - doesnt matter if I'm white; his father isnt

Posted 11/4/08 8:57 PM
 

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remember, when Gulliver traveled....

Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by beautyq115

I *think* technically if one of your grandparents is African American you would consider your self African American.



I know they say that, but check this out...

these two boys are my uncles kids...their mom is half black.

do you think ANYONE would consider them African American. what do you think the NAACP would say to them if they knocked on their door Chat Icon

the older one is my godson...the younger one is the ring loser Chat Icon

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Posted 11/4/08 8:59 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

I think it's how he identifies himself.

Thankfully the days of quadroon, etc. are long gone.

Posted 11/4/08 9:14 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

forget it..Chat Icon

Message edited 11/4/2008 9:22:30 PM.

Posted 11/4/08 9:21 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

why he is referred to as African American. is it b/c he looks more black than white?

yes.

Posted 11/4/08 9:26 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by beautyq115

I *think* technically if one of your grandparents is African American you would consider your self African American.



I suppose then Im African American, go figure

Posted 11/4/08 9:45 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

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Posted by beautyq115

I *think* technically if one of your grandparents is African American you would consider your self African American.



I know they say that, but check this out...

these two boys are my uncles kids...their mom is half black.

do you think ANYONE would consider them African American. what do you think the NAACP would say to them if they knocked on their door Chat Icon

the older one is my godson...the younger one is the ring loser Chat Icon

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Posted 11/4/08 9:46 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

hmmmm
what if one grandparent is from Egypt
they dont look "black"

are they still African American?

i have many friends that are caribbean and do NOT refer to themselves as AA

Message edited 11/4/2008 10:04:37 PM.

Posted 11/4/08 10:03 PM
 

SweetestOfPeas
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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by snowflake08

hmmmm
what if one grandparent is from Egypt
they dont look "black"

are they still African American?

i have many friends that are caribbean and do NOT refer to themselves as AA

I never thought of that. but I guess their roots can probably be traced to Africa. labels... they all stink Chat Icon

Posted 11/4/08 10:06 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by snowflake08

hmmmm
what if one grandparent is from Egypt
they dont look "black"

are they still African American?

i have many friends that are caribbean and do NOT refer to themselves as AA



Lets be HONEST... it REALLY depends on who that person identifies with.. we're all educated (most of us) we KNOW that...

but unfortunately... in societies eyes, if you are mulatto, and look more african american... then in society's eyes-- you are AA. And I also think that many americans don't even know the difference btwn AA & Caribbean (SADLY) Unless, of course you want to educate them... but IMO I don't feel as though that person SHOULD have to educate them, you know?

Posted 11/4/08 10:09 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Honestly - and don't flame me here - I think he refers to himself as black because he's playing an angle during campaigning. He thinks he'll get more press and probably more votes that way. Personally, I see him as bi-racial as that is his heritage.

Posted 11/4/08 10:14 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by MommaG

Honestly - and don't flame me here - I think he refers to himself as black because he's playing an angle during campaigning. He thinks he'll get more press and probably more votes that way. Personally, I see him as bi-racial as that is his heritage.



Thank You! Im "bi-racial" and probably would have had more respect for Obama had he acknowledged that that is in fact what he really is. I still would not have voted for him, but I would have respected him a little bit more.

Posted 11/4/08 10:16 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

One drop of black blood makes you a A A in the US....

Posted 11/4/08 10:20 PM
 

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Re: Speaking of race, something DH and I talked about over dinner tonight

Posted by Acerone

One drop of black blood makes you a A A in the US....



That isn't true. Maybe in 1890 when the rule was enforced in the South...

Posted 11/4/08 10:24 PM
 
 

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