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Diana1215
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Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

Tonight - a bunch of girls were out to dinner. We went to an extremely loud restuarant - with over an hour wait.

We got there at 8 and were seated after 9. There was a couple with two little girls (around the age of 2ish) who was there the same time.

These two little girls were a mess. COMPLETELY and utterly exhausted - and then still had to wait 45 minutes to get seated.

These parents continued to wait for a table - and then proceeded to eat there. They did not leave the restaurant until after 11 - the kids still up - and obviously still exhausted.

JMO - but honestly - why are you torturing these poor children. They obviously needed to be in bed.

This aggravated all of us to no end. I felt so bad for these poor girls.

Fireislandlove can back me up on this one (and I told you I would do a spinoff!!! Chat Icon )

What would you do?

Posted 2/10/08 12:28 AM
 
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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I am guilty of thisChat Icon Well not 11 pm but 9:30. But Kaitee doesn't go to bed untill 9-10 pm, but I know other people are thinking things. But everyone does what works for their families so I try not to judge.

Posted 2/10/08 12:40 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I guess you never know what happened. Maybe they had a babysitter cancel on them last minute.

Chances are, they don't do it that often.

Posted 2/10/08 2:56 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

Posted by ABCiverson

I am guilty of thisChat Icon Well not 11 pm but 9:30. But Kaitee doesn't go to bed untill 9-10 pm, but I know other people are thinking things. But everyone does what works for their families so I try not to judge.




Same here. Sometimes I keep Ella out until late and maybe people are looking at DH and I like we are crazy but who cares. Everyone should do what's best for their families and whenever I see something with other families I try not judge because I do not know their situations.

Posted 2/10/08 7:21 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

But are you children at the point at total and utter exhaustion - and obviously acting that way?

There was no stroller for these kids to even fall asleep in if they wanted to. If they had strollers - that would be a whole other story IMO.

Posted 2/10/08 7:57 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

Posted by Diana1215

But are you children at the point at total and utter exhaustion - and obviously acting that way?

There was no stroller for these kids to even fall asleep in if they wanted to. If they had strollers - that would be a whole other story IMO.



I agree with you. Was it just the 2 parents and the 2 kids? IMO, even if your sitter cancelled on them, do they really NEED to go out at and wait for a long time for dinner if their kids are obviously having a tough time?

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Posted 2/10/08 8:08 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

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Posted by Diana1215

But are you children at the point at total and utter exhaustion - and obviously acting that way?

There was no stroller for these kids to even fall asleep in if they wanted to. If they had strollers - that would be a whole other story IMO.



I agree with you. Was it just the 2 parents and the 2 kids? IMO, even if your sitter cancelled on them, do they really NEED to go out at and wait for a long time for dinner if their kids are obviously having a tough time?



It was the two parents - two kids - and then a random woman (not a grandmother or anyone like that)

That's what I think - if you want Italian food THAT badly -- call it in for Take out. The parents were obviously not enjoying themselves either dealing with the two little ones.

Posted 2/10/08 8:16 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

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Posted by Diana1215

But are you children at the point at total and utter exhaustion - and obviously acting that way?

There was no stroller for these kids to even fall asleep in if they wanted to. If they had strollers - that would be a whole other story IMO.



I agree with you. Was it just the 2 parents and the 2 kids? IMO, even if your sitter cancelled on them, do they really NEED to go out at and wait for a long time for dinner if their kids are obviously having a tough time?



It was the two parents - two kids - and then a random woman (not a grandmother or anyone like that)

That's what I think - if you want Italian food THAT badly -- call it in for Take out. The parents were obviously not enjoying themselves either dealing with the two little ones.



Yes, I completely agree! Sounds like no one enjoyed themselves, the parents could have put the kids to bed and then eaten a yummy meal that someone picked up, you're right.

Posted 2/10/08 8:19 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I think it's unreasonable to expect children to wait that long to eat no matter what hour. Based on that, alone, I would not have stayed at the restaurant. For myself, I don't see me doing that to my kids but I don't know what the circumstances might have been.

Posted 2/10/08 8:55 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I wouldn't do it unprepared. If I was going to be out that late, then I would have brought the stroller (again, that is my kid, he sleeps in his). And I wouldn't do it all the time AND I probably wouldn't do it for just dinner with me and DH.

Like I've said before, on my birthday we went to the Cheesecake Factory at Smithaven, it was Friday night. My friend from college was coming in from Philly, my parents and sister from the city, and I had to work, so we didn't even get to the restaurant til like 8. Christopher was 6 months at the time and we all tag teamed him and he passed out in his stroller around 10pm, we got home and put him in his crib around midnight and he slept late the next day.

But,t hat was a speical occasion and there were a lot of people there to help us.

Posted 2/10/08 9:02 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I've had my kids out late on the weekend both in public & at friend's houses.

They normally aren't acting up in a restaurant when they're tired. If they were, we'd take our dinner to go. What they do is sit on our lap until dinner gets there - or in one case Joseph fell asleep on my husband's lap. DH ate dinner with ds sleeping on him.

Late at a friend's house is 11pm.
Late in public is 9pm.
Last night at our house, they were up until 9:45pm because it was movie night.
Bedtime during the week is 7:30-8pm.

eta. if my kids were acting up or utterly exhausted & couldn't settle down, I'd take my food to go. Having them out at 11pm is fine IF that's their normal time. I know some SAHMs who have completely different schedules & their kids are in bed at 10:30-11pm

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Posted 2/10/08 9:02 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

Posted by nrthshgrl

I've had my kids out late on the weekend both in public & at friend's houses.

They normally aren't acting up in a restaurant when they're tired. If they were, we'd take our dinner to go. What they do is sit on our lap until dinner gets there - or in one case Joseph fell asleep on my husband's lap. DH ate dinner with ds sleeping on him.

Late at a friend's house is 11pm.
Late in public is 9pm.
Last night at our house, they were up until 9:45pm because it was movie night.
Bedtime during the week is 7:30-8pm.

eta. if my kids were acting up or utterly exhausted & couldn't settle down, I'd take my food to go. Having them out at 11pm is fine IF that's their normal time. I know some SAHMs who have completely different schedules & their kids are in bed at 10:30-11pm



EXACTLY! If it's the norm and the kids are used to that then fine. These little ones def. were not. Some kids do stay up late - and that's great - and whatever works for the family - but these little kids were beyond exhausted.

We were all getting so mad and close to saying something. Thank goodness they got seated.

Message edited 2/10/2008 9:11:50 AM.

Posted 2/10/08 9:11 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

Posted by Diana1215

Posted by nbc188

Posted by Diana1215

But are you children at the point at total and utter exhaustion - and obviously acting that way?

There was no stroller for these kids to even fall asleep in if they wanted to. If they had strollers - that would be a whole other story IMO.



I agree with you. Was it just the 2 parents and the 2 kids? IMO, even if your sitter cancelled on them, do they really NEED to go out at and wait for a long time for dinner if their kids are obviously having a tough time?



It was the two parents - two kids - and then a random woman (not a grandmother or anyone like that)

That's what I think - if you want Italian food THAT badly -- call it in for Take out. The parents were obviously not enjoying themselves either dealing with the two little ones.



I completely agree. On the Superbowl we kept Lily at a party until 9ish. I felt bad, but she was having a great time so I got over it. Plus it was around the corner. I knew she'd be in bed 15 minutes after we got home. We only go out to eat with her when we can go early and know there won't be a long wait. Otherwise, it's just not worth it to me. No one has a nice time if she's cranky. I'm not totally inflexible with her bedtime. When go away to visit relatives we always push it, but not to the point where she's miserable.

Posted 2/10/08 9:11 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I totally understand what you are saying. My DS goes to bed at 6:30. I personally would not take my DS out that late to dinner and would never think about waiting for a table and to start eating at 8:45. If we have a special occasion and it is a must that both my DH and I attend I then make sure that I have his pack n' play if it is at a house, or if it is a restaurant then I would bring his stroller. I believe that sleep is extremely important for a child's development. If I had plans with my DH, and a babysitter canceled I would then stay in for the evening.

That being said as long as your child has a really good routine/schedule most of the time, every once and awhile I do not think it is terrible if you deviate from this, as long as it doesn't make the child too upset. Every child is different. Some can take staying up a little later and some cannot. I think each family has to make their decisions with this in mind.

Hopefully that family at the restaurant does not choose to do that to their children too often.

Posted 2/10/08 9:20 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

If they were exhausted and miserable I would definately take them home. it's not fair to them. I don't really have that problem with my little guy.... party animal and can stay up all night and he's fineChat Icon ......we'll see what happens with the next oneChat Icon .

Posted 2/10/08 9:52 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

My DS is still very young, so I may change my tune, but I think that's too young to have your kids out, especially in a stimulating environment where they can't sleep. JMO.

I think if I want to go out with my friends that late, I would probably ask DH to babysit or get a babysitter. But then, if I was a single parent, this would be much harder, so who knows what their situation is.

Posted 2/10/08 11:53 AM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

well, I try not to judge. However, if it were me i wouldn't be out that late because I know my son would be miserable. Which in turn makes mommy and daddy miserable because the dinner would probably not be enjoyed and we'd be dealing with sleeping issues all night. I don't think it would be fair to him, especially if I was not prepared for it as it seems they weren't.

Posted 2/10/08 12:10 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I could never judge, because I've had my kids out that late. Especially in the summer, when we go to the pool with daddy when he gets home and we stay until it closes at 9 p.m. I do know that at times, they will be tired and we do what we can. Yes, they may be tired, but if they aren't acting out, I wouldn't be too concerned.

Posted 2/10/08 12:37 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

I don't know, everyone's situtation is different. It wouldn't have bothered me. To each their own.

Posted 2/10/08 12:40 PM
 

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Re: Spinoff to Kate's post regarding bedtimes

well, I agree being a mama she should have been prepared double stroller and having them ready for bed..

but if she is like US life will not and does not stop bc we have Sofia.. She will be out with us if she is allowed to be and when we go to friends houses ect she can sleep in her seat, stroller later on on the bed and we carry her home to her bed..

this is what will work for us.

Posted 2/10/08 10:24 PM
 
 

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