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Sassyz75
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swine flu & wall street.
am I the only one super PO'd that big wall street firms have been able to procure swine flu vaccinations and yet my OB and Ped can't get any doses?
My cousin got her shots- she works at a big bank as an HR executive.
Just goes to show you, once again- if you have money, you can get anything.
I was so mad I wrote letters to Schumer, Gillibrand & Peter King
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LJSMommy
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Ridiculous.
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| Posted 11/5/09 11:58 PM |
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FelAndJon
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
I was actually waiting for someone to bring this up. I used to work at one of these big firms. They are not just giving out the shots to the first person in line. They have the same requirements as everyone else (pregnancy, child under 6 months old at home, other immunity lowering illnesses, etc).
They put in for the vaccines the same way the hospitals and doctors offices did. It isn't like they got preferential treatment...
Also, many of them have donated their vaccines to areas that needed it...
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| Posted 11/6/09 12:01 AM |
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ruby
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Actually, at first I felt the same way...but then I was listening to someone on the today show or GMA talking about it, and they brought up a good point.....people spend the majority of their time at work....I used to work at an investment bank and god knows those analysts are literally there all day all night....anyway, not for nothing but if you have that many people in a confined space for as long a time as they are, I'd want them all to be vaccinated too, at least the ones who are prioritized people. And like a pp said, they put in for it just like everyone else, it just gets more publicity because everyone is already in a "i hate wall street and the bailout" mode of thinking.
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| Posted 11/6/09 7:03 AM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Posted by FelAndJon
I was actually waiting for someone to bring this up. I used to work at one of these big firms. They are not just giving out the shots to the first person in line. They have the same requirements as everyone else (pregnancy, child under 6 months old at home, other immunity lowering illnesses, etc).
They put in for the vaccines the same way the hospitals and doctors offices did. It isn't like they got preferential treatment...
Also, many of them have donated their vaccines to areas that needed it...
actually that isn't true- my cousin just got one and she isn't in the high risk group-.. but she is an exec
I just don't understand why they should have them at ALL- all their workers should go to their own docs to find like we do...
Heck- i'm in the high risk group and there are no shots to be found- it is BS
I guess I just feel like how come THEY can get doses when my OB and Ped don't even know when they are getting any doses.. once again, money buys everything.
Lots of people work in close contact with each other- lots of people work crazy hours- that doesn't mean their companies can get the doses.
and- I do have an "i hate wallstreet mentality" b/c once again the big firms (Goldman, JPMorgan Chase) are pulling in big bucks doing things we don't quite understand, and no one, not even the Times can explain- and this is how we got into this mess in the 1st place.
Message edited 11/6/2009 7:44:44 AM.
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| Posted 11/6/09 7:42 AM |
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alli3131
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
I do know that in DH building at Citi, they have had a ton of people with the swine-flu and a few of them were hospitalized. I really don't think getting the vaccine is the problem its how they distribute it.
There are plenty of states that people were in line to get the vaccine and high risk were not given preference. A friend of mine was in line in Texas and PG and didnt get it but other healthy people did.
It happens all over not just on Wall St.
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| Posted 11/6/09 7:46 AM |
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FelAndJon
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Posted by Sassyz75
actually that isn't true- my cousin just got one and she isn't in the high risk group-.. but she is an exec
I just don't understand why they should have them at ALL- all their workers should go to their own docs to find like we do...
Heck- i'm in the high risk group and there are no shots to be found- it is BS
I guess I just feel like how come THEY can get doses when my OB and Ped don't even know when they are getting any doses.. once again, money buys everything.
Lots of people work in close contact with each other- lots of people work crazy hours- that doesn't mean their companies can get the doses.
and- I do have an "i hate wallstreet mentality" b/c once again the big firms (Goldman, JPMorgan Chase) are pulling in big bucks doing things we don't quite understand, and no one, not even the Times can explain- and this is how we got into this mess in the 1st place.
Well, shame on your cousin's company for not following the rules. I know for a fact that a majority of the bigger firms do have the rules in place and are not just giving out the shots to the executives.
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| Posted 11/6/09 7:48 AM |
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lululu
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Posted by Sassyz75
I just don't understand why they should have them at ALL- all their workers should go to their own docs to find like we do...
Something like this is offered as a perk because many of these people can not leave work to go to their doctor during office hours. Many of these people work 70+ hours a week, 6 days.
I don't think it's right that there are high priority people out there that are being denied though if they are distributing it to non high risk people.
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| Posted 11/6/09 7:55 AM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Posted by lululu
Posted by Sassyz75
I just don't understand why they should have them at ALL- all their workers should go to their own docs to find like we do...
Something like this is offered as a perk because many of these people can not leave work to go to their doctor during office hours. Many of these people work 70+ hours a week, 6 days.
I don't think it's right that there are high priority people out there that are being denied though if they are distributing it to non high risk people.
again, lots of people work 6 day, 70 hour weeks- a lot of the small business owners do- the back bone of this country- the companies that employee the most people... so I still don't see why wall street should have gotten any doses.. sure, have your company docs, etc- but the vaccines- not cool- especially those in high demand.
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| Posted 11/6/09 8:09 AM |
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EsquireFish
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
I think it was Goldman that got 500 shots and donated them all to an area hospital.
Each company got a very limited supply in order to give them to highest priority people. If an individual company chooses to break the rules, you should complain to that specific company. I know one Wall Street firm asked for 5200 doses and only got 200 to distribute to those that need it.
But it is not just Wall Street - I know of a law firm in Boston that got doses ahead of everyone else. And my stepson, who is just a regular 5 year old with parents who don't work anywhere special in particular, got the shot last week from his everyday pediatrician.
And to address workers that should leave to go their own docs to get flu shots -- when you work in a job like some of these, leaving for a doctor is not so cut and dry. That is why we get the regular flu shot each year in a conference room here. I work with partners that bill out for over $1000 an hour. It makes sense for a company to keep that partner in the office working, taking out only 10 minutes to get a shot in a conference room, rather than losing them for an hour or two to a doctor's appt. And you don't even want to consider how much work time gets lost if we actually do get sick. We also interact with a lot of people, and then go home and spread germs to our kids (and they spread germs to us).
Not like it matters to me anyway -- allergic to egg whites and I am not allowed to get a flu shot 
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| Posted 11/6/09 10:06 AM |
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Posted by Sassyz75
Posted by FelAndJon
I was actually waiting for someone to bring this up. I used to work at one of these big firms. They are not just giving out the shots to the first person in line. They have the same requirements as everyone else (pregnancy, child under 6 months old at home, other immunity lowering illnesses, etc).
They put in for the vaccines the same way the hospitals and doctors offices did. It isn't like they got preferential treatment...
Also, many of them have donated their vaccines to areas that needed it...
actually that isn't true- my cousin just got one and she isn't in the high risk group-.. but she is an exec
I just don't understand why they should have them at ALL- all their workers should go to their own docs to find like we do...
Heck- i'm in the high risk group and there are no shots to be found- it is BS
I guess I just feel like how come THEY can get doses when my OB and Ped don't even know when they are getting any doses.. once again, money buys everything.
Lots of people work in close contact with each other- lots of people work crazy hours- that doesn't mean their companies can get the doses.
and- I do have an "i hate wallstreet mentality" b/c once again the big firms (Goldman, JPMorgan Chase) are pulling in big bucks doing things we don't quite understand, and no one, not even the Times can explain- and this is how we got into this mess in the 1st place.
Firms pay a certain amount towards their workers health insurance.
If this saves a firm money in the end why shouldn't they do this to help their workers out?
If they went through the right channels and broke no laws i have no problem with it.
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| Posted 11/6/09 10:45 AM |
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Blu-ize
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
For the record. I work in a big wall street firm. We got offered regular flu shots as always but not H1N1.
Not available here.
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| Posted 11/6/09 11:10 AM |
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DeniseMarie
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
i heard this morning that Morgan Stanley is giving all of theirs back
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| Posted 11/6/09 12:34 PM |
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Beth
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Jimmy Fallon summed it up best last night
not a direct quote- but he said something to the effect that
all the excutives at this big bank need to get the swine flu shot
b/c if they miss work - then the economy will get messed up
and they will need a bail out
whoops....already happened
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| Posted 11/6/09 12:39 PM |
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Sassyz75
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
I have no problem with companies having doctors/nurses on call or at their facilities to save money...
But I think with this vaccine it's a little bit different..
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| Posted 11/6/09 12:39 PM |
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Posted by Sassyz75
I have no problem with companies having doctors/nurses on call or at their facilities to save money...
But I think with this vaccine it's a little bit different..
How?
Say it costs $10x per person to do it in the office and $50 if they do it at the Dr. (I made up those numbers but you get the drift)
Wouldn't it make sense for the firm to save $40 pper worker?
Plus what is % of people that would take time off and go to dr for shot versus those just heading to conference room at lunch time?
Maybe it is better for society because these programs get more people vaccinated - people that will so to the same mall as you, eat in same restaurant, people who have kids that go to your child's school.
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| Posted 11/6/09 12:54 PM |
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lululu
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
I think that your beef should be more with the pharma companies that are in charge of distributing the vaccines and the health care system in general. Unfortunately in this country people who can afford it will always get better medical care. That's just the way it is. I don't think you can blame just Wall Street when they are just going out there and buying the vaccines. If they don't buy them, someone else will, and they still probably won't all go to high priority people first. Also, I think it's rather philanthropic of them to donate some.
I do also want to stress that I know a lot of people work a ton of hours outside wall street, but when you are at one of these wall street firms, they really own you and your time. You can not just say you are leaving to go and get a flu shot. If you are a small business owner, at least you have the freedom to make that choice without losing your job.
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| Posted 11/6/09 4:54 PM |
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Mommy2Boys
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
And we want the gov't to run our healthcare system 
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| Posted 11/6/09 5:07 PM |
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nickipa
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
Posted by Sassyz75
I have no problem with companies having doctors/nurses on call or at their facilities to save money...
But I think with this vaccine it's a little bit different..
Many of these companies also have employees that do a lot of international travel and they require add'l immunizations--ones that perhaps their regular dr doesn't even stock. I am not sure why vaccines are 'a little bit different'.
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| Posted 11/6/09 9:20 PM |
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lbride
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Re: swine flu & wall street.
The issue is with the gov't and the companies DISTRIBUTING the vaccines, not the places RECEIVING them.
These companies did nothing illegal to obtain them. They went the same avenues as every other organization. You think CVS, Walgreens, etc didn't get vaccines and offer them to the people in that work in the store and head office first? Fortunatley for them, the newspapers aren't obsessed with printing ridiculous stories about them...
Drs. should be more persistant and vigilant in getting them for their high risk patients. My husband works for Goldman and they take wonderful care of their employees' health... something the gov't should do more of for its own citizens.
My thoughts... this is just some sort of mind gain to get people on the national health care band wagon.....
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| Posted 11/7/09 8:21 AM |
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