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GoldenRod
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*This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Two Republican canvassers in Michigan’s largest county are attempting to rescind their votes certifying that Joe Biden won there after President Donald Trump personally called them, The Associated Press reported.
Monica Palmer and William Hartmann, who represent half of the four-member Wayne County canvassing board, initially refused to certify the election results on Tuesday ? an unprecedented move ? despite no evidence of widespread voter fraud. They quickly backtracked, voting later that day to certify the results.
Trump reportedly reached out to Palmer and Hartmann later that night after the board certified the results. Now, the two GOP canvassers say they want to rescind their votes.
The president’s decision to call them and the canvassers efforts to walk back their votes drew swift backlash from some election and law experts, who raised questions regarding the legality and ethics of it all.
“This is an utterly brazen attack on our democracy,” tweeted Josh Douglas, an election law and voting rights professor at the University of Kentucky.
Deepak Gupta, a lawyer and Harvard Law School lecturer, called Trump’s actions “truly shocking.”
“A new low for American constitutional democracy, one that would have been unthinkable just five years ago,” Gupta tweeted.
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Posted 11/20/20 6:57 PM  |
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Did you watch the briefing yesterday? That is not what happened and this is EXACTLY what they said would happen after it.
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| Posted 11/20/20 8:10 PM |
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JME78
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*This* is what
So what evidence was presented at this briefing that you keep acting like is the only truth out there?
There hasn't been any evidence. Why is that?
Message edited 11/20/2020 8:37:20 PM.
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| Posted 11/20/20 8:36 PM |
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RainyDay
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*This* is what
Are these the same two who said they and their families were threatened ?
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| Posted 11/20/20 8:43 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by RainyDay
Are these the same two who said they and their families were threatened ?
Several people at the meeting said there were no threats made to anyone.
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| Posted 11/20/20 8:53 PM |
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Posted by JME78
So what evidence was presented at this briefing that you keep acting like is the only truth out there?
There hasn't been any evidence. Why is that?
Because just like in any court case, you can't talk about everything.
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| Posted 11/20/20 9:43 PM |
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Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by RainyDay
Are these the same two who said they and their families were threatened ?
Several people at the meeting said there were no threats made to anyone.
Did you watch the briefing, in full?
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| Posted 11/20/20 9:43 PM |
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JME78
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by RainyDay
Are these the same two who said they and their families were threatened ?
Several people at the meeting said there were no threats made to anyone.
Did you watch the briefing, in full?
No. I am not going to watch insane nutjob Rudy Giuliani and his team of terrible lawyers. I look at what has been happening in the courts - where NOTHING has been shown or proven.
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:14 PM |
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Posted by JME78
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by RainyDay
Are these the same two who said they and their families were threatened ?
Several people at the meeting said there were no threats made to anyone.
Did you watch the briefing, in full?
No. I am not going to watch insane nutjob Rudy Giuliani and his team of terrible lawyers. I look at what has been happening in the courts - where NOTHING has been shown or proven.
Thank you, at least one person has answered.
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:24 PM |
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JME78
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*This* is what
But you have not answered as to what has been proven in these briefings? They ramble on and on and when they are in court they have nothing to show.
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:25 PM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Rudy's Press Conferences aren't "briefings". It's just a lie-filled rambling string of nonsense. Pretty much everything said is a provable lie.
Just more extremist right-wing propaganda media.
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:34 PM |
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Posted by JME78
But you have not answered as to what has been proven in these briefings? They ramble on and on and when they are in court they have nothing to show.
They can't tell you everything that is going on, just like with every other court case. Just like when you are on jury duty you are not supposed to talk about it.
Many people who don't want their names out for safety reasons.
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:37 PM |
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Posted by GoldenRod
Rudy's Press Conferences aren't "briefings". It's just a lie-filled rambling string of nonsense. Pretty much everything said is a provable lie.
Just more extremist right-wing propaganda media.
So you didn't see it, thanks 
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:37 PM |
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CookiePuss
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Where is the fraud? Where oh where is it? Because none of Trump's attorneys are willing to allege any fraud while under oath. Why is that? If there is fraud, why not speak under oath? Why...because there are consequences if you are lying to judges. That is why NONE OF TRUMP'S attorneys will go on record in a court of law.
That says it all.
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:49 PM |
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JME78
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by valentinesbaby48
Posted by JME78
But you have not answered as to what has been proven in these briefings? They ramble on and on and when they are in court they have nothing to show.
They can't tell you everything that is going on, just like with every other court case. Just like when you are on jury duty you are not supposed to talk about it.
Many people who don't want their names out for safety reasons.
They aren't even presenting any fraud IN COURT. So we are just supposed to take Rudy's word for it?
If there is massive, widespread voter fraud I will believe it when I see proof. Which now weeks later, we haven't seen a shred of credible evidence.
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| Posted 11/20/20 10:53 PM |
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mrsrainbow
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*This* is what
I literally am only here to watch valentinesbaby48 fall deeper and deeper into delusion. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny.
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| Posted 11/20/20 11:03 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by mrsrainbow
I literally am only here to watch valentinesbaby48 fall deeper and deeper into delusion. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny.
That makes two of us.  
Delusional AF. Every comment is more laughable and embarrassing than the last. 
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| Posted 11/20/20 11:05 PM |
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CookiePuss
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by mrsrainbow
I literally am only here to watch valentinesbaby48 fall deeper and deeper into delusion. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny.
He/she/bot ignores any question or fact that does not fit in to he/she/bot's narrative.
I find it scary that there are people, people in my life, that follow the same narrative.
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| Posted 11/20/20 11:10 PM |
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BFNY516
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by CookiePuss
Where is the fraud? Where oh where is it? Because none of Trump's attorneys are willing to allege any fraud while under oath. Why is that? If there is fraud, why not speak under oath? Why...because there are consequences if you are lying to judges. That is why NONE OF TRUMP'S attorneys will go on record in a court of law.
That says it all.
Exactly. Rudy and the Kracken lady are paid spokespeople. The true legal gurus won”t dare touch this. Again it’s why every single case has been tossed out they’ve been laughed out of courtrooms.
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| Posted 11/20/20 11:14 PM |
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by CookiePuss
Where is the fraud? Where oh where is it? Because none of Trump's attorneys are willing to allege any fraud while under oath. Why is that? If there is fraud, why not speak under oath? Why...because there are consequences if you are lying to judges. That is why NONE OF TRUMP'S attorneys will go on record in a court of law.
That says it all.
Exactly. Rudy and the Kracken lady are paid spokespeople. The true legal gurus won”t dare touch this. Again it’s why every single case has been tossed out they’ve been laughed out of courtrooms.
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| Posted 11/20/20 11:17 PM |
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by BFNY516
Posted by CookiePuss
Where is the fraud? Where oh where is it? Because none of Trump's attorneys are willing to allege any fraud while under oath. Why is that? If there is fraud, why not speak under oath? Why...because there are consequences if you are lying to judges. That is why NONE OF TRUMP'S attorneys will go on record in a court of law.
That says it all.
Exactly. Rudy and the Kracken lady are paid spokespeople. The true legal gurus won”t dare touch this. Again it’s why every single case has been tossed out they’ve been laughed out of courtrooms.
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| Posted 11/20/20 11:27 PM |
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klingklang77
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by mrsrainbow
I literally am only here to watch valentinesbaby48 fall deeper and deeper into delusion. It would be sad if it wasn't so funny.
Add me to that list. I just can’t look away.
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| Posted 11/20/20 11:31 PM |
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JennP
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
He's so scared.
He needs the protections of the presidency to avoid prison.
He's lashing out and creating so much chaos, sowing disorder and mistrust in our institutions based on total fallacies, telling lie after lie, and tearing this country apart and the only thing I can think of is that he is trying to create leverage to negotiate.
He'll offer to concede in exchange for a pardon.
I don't know where else this would be going.
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| Posted 11/21/20 2:17 AM |
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klingklang77
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by JennP
He's so scared.
He needs the protections of the presidency to avoid prison.
He's lashing out and creating so much chaos, sowing disorder and mistrust in our institutions based on total fallacies, telling lie after lie, and tearing this country apart and the only thing I can think of is that he is trying to create leverage to negotiate.
He'll offer to concede in exchange for a pardon.
I don't know where else this would be going.
He must be so scared. I almost want to say that I feel sorry for him, but I don’t.
We have this person here who has gotten everything he always wanted. Came from a rich family. Got drafted and got out of it. Got an education and grew up in a wealthy family. Got married to women of his choosing. I am not even going to comment on how badly he probably treated these women. Children, etc.
He’s gotten tons of press and he has rebranded himself many times, despite having to file for bankruptcy. But he was a regular staple in the media as a character.
Thought, hey let’s run for President. Didn’t realize that there is a whole system of checks and balances. Now, suddenly, he realizes that he can’t get by on lawyers and money— this is the real deal. This is a real lawsuit and not something you can settle out of court.
I don’t see good things for his future. But, finally, it has all caught up to him now.
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| Posted 11/21/20 2:35 AM |
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Re: *This* is what "trying to steal the election" looks like...
Posted by JennP
He's so scared.
He needs the protections of the presidency to avoid prison.
He's lashing out and creating so much chaos, sowing disorder and mistrust in our institutions based on total fallacies, telling lie after lie, and tearing this country apart and the only thing I can think of is that he is trying to create leverage to negotiate.
He'll offer to concede in exchange for a pardon.
I don't know where else this would be going.
Even if he is trying to do that I can't imagine it would fly. SDNY has him by the balls.
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