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lululu
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Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

If your child identified as a different gender from a very young age - say 2 or 3. at what age would you allow them to transition to the opposite gender?

I know someone who transitioned their 4 year old. I thought that was very young and actually did some research at the time that said about 80% of people who transitioned prepuberty ended up transitioning back to the gender they were assigned at birth after puberty and just became a homosexual person of that gender.

Posted 2/16/22 2:54 PM
 
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Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

I would wait until at least the teenage years.

My female cousin dressed as a boy at a very young age, as did a coworkers daughter. They both said they wanted to be boys. By the time they were teenagers they both were very girly girls so I think it is better off to wait.

Posted 2/16/22 2:56 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Ditto, teenager.

Posted 2/16/22 3:01 PM
 

Raging2020
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Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Mid teens/late teens


Look at Shiloh Jolie-Pitt.

She went from being called a boys name and dressing like a boy during her younger years and now she’s changed direction.

Posted 2/16/22 3:07 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Posted by Raging2020

Mid teens/late teens


Look at Shiloh Jolie-Pitt.

She went from being called a boys name and dressing like a boy during her younger years and now she’s changed direction.



I remember I called Shiloh a her on here and someone tried to correct me. I also remember saying she is still young and hasn't identified as a boy.

Anywho.. around18, only because I feel like hormones and body should develop. Also assuming there is money to pay for it.

Posted 2/16/22 3:12 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Posted by lululu

If your child identified as a different gender from a very young age - say 2 or 3. at what age would you allow them to transition to the opposite gender?

I know someone who transitioned their 4 year old. I thought that was very young and actually did some research at the time that said about 80% of people who transitioned prepuberty ended up transitioning back to the gender they were assigned at birth after puberty and just became a homosexual person of that gender.





OMG! Four years old!? That's child abuse, IMO! What doctors did that? They should lose their license!

Posted 2/16/22 3:13 PM
 

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Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

I do not think children have the mental capability to decide they want to transition. It should not be done until after puberty. I do think though if they wanted to dress or "act" like the opposite gender that is their choice at any age but I would not be changing the pronouns or names or anything medical until they were absolutely sure.

Posted 2/16/22 3:19 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

I wouldn't feel comfortable until 17-18 and only after consulting my child's pediatrician, and a psychologist.

Posted 2/16/22 3:19 PM
 

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Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

When they are adults. I can't even imagine transitioning a 4 year old...people have lost their minds.

Posted 2/16/22 3:22 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

When I think transition I think of sex reassignment surgery, hormone therapy and all of that.
So yeah, as a consenting adult obviously.


But are you talking about letting them dress as the opposite sex, pick a new name, etc?

Message edited 2/16/2022 3:28:06 PM.

Posted 2/16/22 3:23 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Posted by Tulip9

I wouldn't feel comfortable until 17-18 and only after consulting my child's pediatrician, and a psychologist.



exactly and I think 4 years old is ridiculous. I will tell you that I wanted to be a boy when I was younger. Was a total tomboy, wore my cousins baggy boy clothes and loved the toys. Hung out with mostly boys. But I liked their stuff better and guys were no drama. I even practice how to pee standing up as kid Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Ok, maybe I was just a fukn weirdo. Chat Icon

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

I don't think there is a right age for transition. I think it looks different at each growth stage.

I am not even sure how accurate the current studies on detransition are.

I do have 2 friends with teens going through this right now. It's not easy on anyone. The toll emotionally, physically and mentally on all involved is so much. If someone needs pronouns such as "they" or 'them"...it's the very least I could do.

I would also never think that I, as a lay person, has the right to judge a transgender or gender fluids' path.

Posted 2/16/22 3:39 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

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When they are adults. I can't even imagine transitioning a 4 year old...people have lost their minds.



Those that are transgender benefit greatly from beginning the transformation prior to puberty. It is never taken lightly by those in the medical profession and they do see many of doctors.

Posted 2/16/22 3:40 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Posted by NervousNell

When I think transition I think of sex reassignment surgery, hormone therapy and all of that.
So yeah, as a consenting adult obviously.


But are you talking about letting them dress as the opposite sex, pick a new name, etc?



Yes, I was also unclear.

I think I’d allow my child to choose their own clothes at the same age any child would pick what they want to wear. Not sure about hair or other aspects of grooming. Honestly, I see so many boys with long hair now that I’m not even sure it’s considered to be partial to girls anymore.

As far as hormones or surgery, I would not allow it. They are free to decide what they want when they are 18 years old. I would not consent them to any sort of elective surgery as a minor, gender reassignment or otherwise.

Posted 2/16/22 3:48 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

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Posted by NervousNell

When I think transition I think of sex reassignment surgery, hormone therapy and all of that.
So yeah, as a consenting adult obviously.


But are you talking about letting them dress as the opposite sex, pick a new name, etc?



Yes, I was also unclear.

I think I’d allow my child to choose their own clothes at the same age any child would pick what they want to wear. Not sure about hair or other aspects of grooming. Honestly, I see so many boys with long hair now that I’m not even sure it’s considered to be partial to girls anymore.

As far as hormones or surgery, I would not allow it. They are free to decide what they want when they are 18 years old. I would not consent them to any sort of elective surgery as a minor, gender reassignment or otherwise.



In this case, dress as a female, legal name change to a female name, started kindergarten as a female, and starting hormone therapy after a certain amount of time to delay puberty.

Posted 2/16/22 4:02 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Posted by lululu

Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by NervousNell

When I think transition I think of sex reassignment surgery, hormone therapy and all of that.
So yeah, as a consenting adult obviously.


But are you talking about letting them dress as the opposite sex, pick a new name, etc?



Yes, I was also unclear.

I think I’d allow my child to choose their own clothes at the same age any child would pick what they want to wear. Not sure about hair or other aspects of grooming. Honestly, I see so many boys with long hair now that I’m not even sure it’s considered to be partial to girls anymore.

As far as hormones or surgery, I would not allow it. They are free to decide what they want when they are 18 years old. I would not consent them to any sort of elective surgery as a minor, gender reassignment or otherwise.



In this case, dress as a female, legal name change to a female name, started kindergarten as a female, and starting hormone therapy after a certain amount of time to delay puberty.



I would let them dress as the opposite sex and be called by another name but wouldn't do anything like legally change their name or start hormone therapy as many kids want to be the opposite gender at that age.

Posted 2/16/22 4:34 PM
 

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Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

If you mean transition with hormones and surgery , then 18.

Posted 2/16/22 4:34 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

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Posted by LuckyStar

Posted by NervousNell

When I think transition I think of sex reassignment surgery, hormone therapy and all of that.
So yeah, as a consenting adult obviously.


But are you talking about letting them dress as the opposite sex, pick a new name, etc?



Yes, I was also unclear.

I think I’d allow my child to choose their own clothes at the same age any child would pick what they want to wear. Not sure about hair or other aspects of grooming. Honestly, I see so many boys with long hair now that I’m not even sure it’s considered to be partial to girls anymore.

As far as hormones or surgery, I would not allow it. They are free to decide what they want when they are 18 years old. I would not consent them to any sort of elective surgery as a minor, gender reassignment or otherwise.



In this case, dress as a female, legal name change to a female name, started kindergarten as a female, and starting hormone therapy after a certain amount of time to delay puberty.



the hormone thing worries me honestly. I don't think messing with hormones at that age, and giving artificial hormones is a good thing. I can see it leading to cancer or some other scary side effect down the road.
I'm not even a fan of birth control pills because of the side effects though.
But giving a young child hormones? That would be a hard no from me. I don't feel that's a smart idea
Hormones are a big thing that can lead to health issues down the road

Posted 2/16/22 4:37 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Not being in the situation it's hard to say at what age I would feel comfortable. I think the situation and decision would depend a lot on where the individual is at with themselves. For some, it's a lifetime journey to figure themselves out, for some they've known since the day they could speak and for others it's a process somewhere in between.

All I can say with complete surety is that I would ALWAYS support my children NO MATTER WHAT. I would do everything in my power to ensure their happiness with themselves and in their lives. No question.

Posted 2/16/22 4:52 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Posted by Hofstra26

Not being in the situation it's hard to say at what age I would feel comfortable. I think the situation and decision would depend a lot on where the individual is at with themselves. For some, it's a lifetime journey to figure themselves out, for some they've known since the day they could speak and for others it's a process somewhere in between.

All I can say with complete surety is that I would ALWAYS support my children NO MATTER WHAT. I would do everything in my power to ensure their happiness with themselves and in their lives. No question.



The problem is that when they are young you can't be sure if it will turn out to be something that they've known for life, or if they are still on a lifelong journey, or somewhere in between. So you've got to use your judgement to determine if and when you will let them transition as a minor.

Posted 2/16/22 5:13 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

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Posted by Hofstra26

Not being in the situation it's hard to say at what age I would feel comfortable. I think the situation and decision would depend a lot on where the individual is at with themselves. For some, it's a lifetime journey to figure themselves out, for some they've known since the day they could speak and for others it's a process somewhere in between.

All I can say with complete surety is that I would ALWAYS support my children NO MATTER WHAT. I would do everything in my power to ensure their happiness with themselves and in their lives. No question.



The problem is that when they are young you can't be sure if it will turn out to be something that they've known for life, or if they are still on a lifelong journey, or somewhere in between. So you've got to use your judgement to determine if and when you will let them transition as a minor.


Which is why I’d never allow my kid to use hormones or have any type of surgery until they are a legal adult and can figure it out for themselves. they can dress in the other gender’s clothes or behave in gender non conforming ways, but no medical interventions with potential risks and side effects. In any case, the overwhelming majority of kids grow out of gender dysphoria if you do absolutely nothing and leave them alone. Shiloh Pitt Is a great example. Seems like her parents let she dress how she wanted , wear her hair short, but as a teenager she went back to presenting as very feminine with makeup , dresses and long hair. If you go on the Reddit de trans forum, posters talk about realizing that they are just a gender non conforming man or women but still a man or women.

Posted 2/16/22 5:24 PM
 

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When they are adults. I can't even imagine transitioning a 4 year old...people have lost their minds.



Those that are transgender benefit greatly from beginning the transformation prior to puberty. It is never taken lightly by those in the medical profession and they do see many of doctors.



Their frontal lobes are not fully developed. No way would I consent to surgery/hormones before 18.

Posted 2/16/22 5:26 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

Posted by lululu

Posted by Hofstra26

Not being in the situation it's hard to say at what age I would feel comfortable. I think the situation and decision would depend a lot on where the individual is at with themselves. For some, it's a lifetime journey to figure themselves out, for some they've known since the day they could speak and for others it's a process somewhere in between.

All I can say with complete surety is that I would ALWAYS support my children NO MATTER WHAT. I would do everything in my power to ensure their happiness with themselves and in their lives. No question.



The problem is that when they are young you can't be sure if it will turn out to be something that they've known for life, or if they are still on a lifelong journey, or somewhere in between. So you've got to use your judgement to determine if and when you will let them transition as a minor.




Heck, so many people regret tattoos they get at 18 or 20 and that is nothing. So many things out there that these kids don’t know how they really feel and shouldn’t be established until they are at least at an age they totally understand more things and know 100% how they really want to be.

Posted 2/16/22 5:55 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

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Posted by jellybean78

When they are adults. I can't even imagine transitioning a 4 year old...people have lost their minds.



Those that are transgender benefit greatly from beginning the transformation prior to puberty. It is never taken lightly by those in the medical profession and they do see many of doctors.



Their frontal lobes are not fully developed. No way would I consent to surgery/hormones before 18.



Exactly, they are not fully developed until 25.

Posted 2/16/22 5:56 PM
 

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Re: Transgender spin-off - Age to transition

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Posted by RomeyT

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Posted by jellybean78

When they are adults. I can't even imagine transitioning a 4 year old...people have lost their minds.



Those that are transgender benefit greatly from beginning the transformation prior to puberty. It is never taken lightly by those in the medical profession and they do see many of doctors.



Their frontal lobes are not fully developed. No way would I consent to surgery/hormones before 18.



Exactly, they are not fully developed until 25.



Yup which is why this should be a decision an individual makes as an adult. This is not a decision a parent should make for a child. One of my coworkers transitioned but he did it in his mid 20s when he was sure that's what he wanted. The entire process is extremely difficult, surgeries, hormones, etc. That is not something to take lightly and there is no way a child should be making that decision.

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