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Lucky09
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Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
I have been feeling really down lately, and honestly I think it is because I have been spending too much time on FB reading about the awesome lives everyone seems to be leading. I read about daily adventures, see pics of playdates, parties, trips to wineries, lavish vacations and nights out. I thought the economy was in a downturn?
I don't know if there is something else going on with me, but I really think it is just this........ I can't help but compare my life to everything I see posted. And it never compares. Could things be worse? Yes, but by the looks of things, they could be a LOT better.
I found this Wall Street Journal Article interesting & thought I would post...
____________________________ Are We All Braggarts Now? Boasting Epidemic Goes Viral; Crowing Boosts Self Esteem but It's Annoying
By ELIZABETH BERNSTEIN
Friends, family and co-workers: I think you're fabulous—just not quite as fabulous as you think you are.
Consider your Facebook status updates:
Best gift ever from the best husband ever.
Swam 30 minutes at a very fast time despite the large amount of Chardonnay served to me on the plane last night.
Got my first royalty check for my book!
Sunset sail. Turned into a moonlight sail. Shooting stars everywhere…Perfect.
A benign reading would be that these are just typical daily updates. But folks, this is bragging, whether you recognize it or not. And it's out of control. How did this happen?
Clearly, the Internet has given us a global audience for our bombast, and social media sites encourage it. We're all expected to be perfect all the time. The result is more people carefully stage-managing their online image.
Boasting isn't just a problem on the Internet. In a society of unrelenting competition—where reality-show contestants duke it out for the approval of aging celebrities and pastors have publicists—is it any wonder we market ourselves relentlessly?
In part, you can blame the economy. In the most competitive job market in memory, the lesson is clear: You must demonstrate—on multiple platforms—that you excel above all others.
Changes in parenting style also play a role. Nowadays, every moment—first day of school, exhausted nap in the back seat of the car—is documented. The problem is that these shared moments can easily come off as crowing about how great Mom and Dad are to have raised such an adorable kid.
We've become so accustomed to boasting that we don't even realize what we're doing. And it's harmful to our relationships because it turns people off.
So why keep it up?
"We brag because we can," says Julie Hanks, a licensed clinical social worker who has a therapy clinic in Salt Lake City. "And a lot more people are listening."
People brag for all sorts of reasons, she says: to appear worthy of attention or love or to try and cover up our deepest insecurities. To prove to ourselves that we're OK, that people from our past who said we wouldn't measure up were wrong. Or simply because we're excited when good things happen to us.
And talking about ourselves feels good. According to the results of a series of experiments conducted by Harvard University neuroscientists and published in May in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences, the reward areas of our brain—the same areas that respond to "primary rewards" such as food and sex—are activated when we talk about ourselves. We devote between 30% and 40% of our conversation time to doing just that, according to the study, which didn't focus on boasting specifically, but on self-disclosure.
In one experiment, the researchers offered people small amounts of money to answer questions about themselves or others. They generally were willing to forgo earnings in order to talk about themselves.
Unfortunately, some people can't seem to tell the difference between sharing positive information that others might actually want to know and flat-out crowing. Let me help: Bragging involves comparison, whether stated or implied. "It's being overbearing and showing excessive pride," says Ms. Hanks.
Often, bragging is in the eye of the beholder, as Faith McKinney found out at a church picnic one recent Sunday. The Indianapolis postal-service worker, 45, was telling an older member of her congregation about the interviews she does with celebrities for her freelance gig at a local online entertainment magazine, when her cousin—the one she donated a kidney to a few years ago—suddenly piped up: "There she goes again, dropping names."
"You could have knocked me over with a feather," says Ms. McKinney, who admits she mentions the famous people she's met at every opportunity because she feels this makes her more interesting.
She continued her story—and even dropped a few more names, on purpose. But she felt humiliated, especially when she remembered that another relative had recently asked her why her "big head" was always in the photos of work she posted online. "If these are people who love me saying this, what am I to expect from strangers?"
According to yet-to-be-published research at Columbia University, browsing Facebook or another social media site increases our levels of narcissism as well as our self-esteem.
And while we're more likely to be modest with our friends and family in person, these are the people we most want to see our enhanced updates online, says Keith Wilcox, assistant professor of marketing at Columbia Business School, who conducted the study.
"Their opinions matter more," he says, adding that online, the usual social norms of modesty don't necessarily hold.
"It's become a phenomenon where if someone posts a status update and 500 people see it and no one objects, it must be true," says Jennifer Mirsky, 45, a digital content strategist in New York.
"But could it really be that everyone else has a husband as thoughtful as the heroes of romance novels, children who combine the brilliance of Einstein with the winning charms of Shirley Temple, and jobs packed with wall-to-wall glamorous events?"
Ms. Mirsky says her strategy is to simply hit the "like" button and move on. "You input one keystroke of indeterminate meaning to say 'hooray for you!' " she says.
So how should you deal with a braggart?
"Feel sorry for them, because they're doing this impulsive, destructive thing that won't help them in the long run," says Simine Vazire, a research psychologist and associate professor at Washington University in St. Louis. Research on self-enhancement shows that people who brag make a good first impression, but that it diminishes over time.
When Ian McKenzie, 30, a schoolteacher in Lincoln, U.K., goes out to dinner with his wife and their friends, he says, everyone soon gets around to bragging—about the gadgets and cars they own, their kids, their vacations. "I have my fill of it and start to act up," he says.
He mentions how he went to school with Prince William. (He attended St. Andrew's in Scotland at the same time but never knew the prince.) Or he tells of the time he saw supermodel Kate Moss. (She got out of a car near where he was walking; he had no idea who she was until his wife clued him in.)
The reaction? "Stunned silence," he says. "Hopefully, it will bring the pudding course on quicker and there will be a rush for the door."
Write to Elizabeth Bernstein at [email protected] or follow her column at www.facebook.com/EBernstein-WSJ.
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
A couple of things:
1. IMO, many of the people who constantly "brag" on facebook are really lonely and unhappy, which is why they feel the need to constantly post updates about their "great" life - it is for reassurance that their life really is great.
2. I'm sorry that you are going through a rough patch. Is there anything you can do about it? There are plenty of things you can do that don't cost a lot of money. DH and I went out east and did wine tasting and berry picking and spent about $50 for the whole day. And why can't you schedule playdates - they are free. You can post on facebook to see if and of your friends are interested.
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I felt the same as you a couple months ago. I ended up just removing the people from my news feed that annoyed me. It has worked out perfectly now.
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
I must have pretty good FB friends because I don't see much bragging going on at all. I have friends that posts photos of white water rafting trips, a new car, vacations, house renovations, etc. I don't think of it as bragging. I think of it as sharing.
I'm happy old friends from HS or acquaintances are happy. No one lives a charmed life all of the time. The things they're doing may also be free (beach photos, wineries, etc). The other thing is when things are crappy, people don't usually post about them on FB or grab a photo of their credit card bills to upload.
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my MIL constantly brags on facebook...in fact that is her only way of communication!
I just had this conversation with DH....we are considering posting an ultrasound picture to announce our pregnancy and i told him if we do he needs to tell MIL that she cannot copy the photo and repost it on her page. she always does that...has taken every single wedding photo we have posted and other pictures of us with friends even and reposts them on her page...pretending she is a great mother and that she has a great relationship with us. it is her own fantasy land... the harsh reality is we have next to no communication with her. she would also post how should would go out of state every weekend to visit her parents and sister when the reality of that is that her father hated when she would come visit bc all she did was sit on her iphone and text - yes she was there physically but never had any conversation or helped out...yet all her friends would post how wonderful a daughter she is and how her parents are lucky to have her.
I personally feel sorry for people like MIL who have to live in these fantasy worlds on facebook in order to make themselves feel better.
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
I think the bragging would be greatly diminished if we only had actual FRIENDS on our friends list. But instead, our friends lists contain every girl from high school who was ever mean to us... every guy we ever dated... etc. People we'd never waste our time with in real life. I feel like there's more pressure to present this perfect life to "show" those people from our past how awesome we are today
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
I'm sorry that you're feeling down
I don't really know if I agree with that article though...as a pp mentioned, I see certain things as sharing not bragging. I think it's fun to see what people are up to, look at pics from different vacations, etc. There's so much negativity around that I like to see people who are happy about things.
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
Posted by JAAMS
I'm sorry that you're feeling down
I don't really know if I agree with that article though...as a pp mentioned, I see certain things as sharing not bragging. I think it's fun to see what people are up to, look at pics from different vacations, etc. There's so much negativity around that I like to see people who are happy about things.
this... id rather see this from people than constant negativity .... then there would be an article about how they are begging for attention and for people to give them sympathy and ask whats wrong... etc...
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Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
Well you know what they always say. If the grass looks greener on the other side, it's probably because it's fertilized with bull shit.
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
Posted by Ayne11
Well you know what they always say. If the grass looks greener on the other side, it's probably because it's fertilized with bull shit.
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Lucky09
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
Posted by Ayne11
Well you know what they always say. If the grass looks greener on the other side, it's probably because it's fertilized with bull shit.
Thank you for this, it literally made me LOL!
I also think that the fact that I don't just have actual FRIENDS on my FB plays a part in my feelings rings true. I have people from grammar school, high school and college that I would never be in contact with otherwise, and while I am happy for them that they are doing so great, maybe I need to do a serious revamping of my friends list (or hiding of certain people ).
I also have two wild, crazy and LOUD boys, ages 3 and almost 2, and I could NEVER EVER take them to half of the places people post pictures of their kids at (fancy steakhouses/restaurants, wineries, swimming at the beach, concerts, broadway shows, and on and on). I don't deprive them, we do activities, but usually I am chasing them or cleaning up after them or trying to get one to stop crying, and by the time all is "fine", I am too tired to take a pic and upload it to facebook.
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Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
i agree in some ways, some people on my FB are always posting pictures of their vacation time. like, really? how much vacation time do you have a year? 2 months? because they are ALWAYS posting vacation photos. its unreal to me. but then these same people complain about how their love life sucks or how so and so doesn't treat them right. i feel sorry for them most of the time.
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I'd rather be a facebook bragger than a facebook complainer!
People complain that people are too negative, post too many everyday details (I just went to Target, etc.) and now that people share too many happy things? So what exactly are we supposed to put on facebook? It can't be too good, or too bad, or too boring, so what's left?
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Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
i see bragging, complaining, whining, too much detail, sports updates, celebrity updates, motivational speeches, and many other things.... i read thru, smile, smirk, laugh...it's facebook. you can't take it too seriously. i did hide one person whose updates made me feel bad. she was a SAHM who was always talking about how lucky she was and all the great things she and her kids did that day. good for her, but i was jealous, and it made me feel bad. so i hid her updates. nothing against her.
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
Posted by dlj97
A couple of things:
1. IMO, many of the people who constantly "brag" on facebook are really lonely and unhappy, which is why they feel the need to constantly post updates about their "great" life - it is for reassurance that their life really is great.
I agree with this. I have 2 Facebook friends who are constantly posting about how wonderful their lives/children/husbands are... Like, excessively. IRL, they are 2 of the saddest people I know. One is married to an alcoholic, a really mean drunk. The other has a totally dysfunctional marriage, hasn't had sex with her husband in nearly 2 years, and is in the middle of a court battle with her family. If I just knew them on Facebook I would be envious of both of them. But I just feel bad for them both... If bragging on Facebook is what it takes to make them feel better, than so be it.
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When a friend posts, "Just booked our trip to Germany!!" I don't view it as bragging but just showing their excitement. I get excited for them and look forward to seeing pictures.
-I don't update my status a lot but my husband does and he's friends with some of my friends. He sometimes goes through these check in phases and will let all of FB know that we are at a restaurant or the airport and I think it's a bit much. My friend will say, "Oh you're out again?? Your husband just posted that you were out yesterday!" Now I try to limit his check ins!
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What I don't get is the check ins. What is the point? Other than to let eveyone know that you are out and about and what cool places you are at. I don't mind the- "had a great day at the winieres" status or the pictures of said day there. I don't mind people getting excited that they just booked a trip to Vegas and posting about it.
What annoys me is- So and so just checked in at Chili's. So and so just checked in at JFK airport. So and so just checked in at the coolest, hippest, trendiest bar on the face of the planet.
What is the point of that? Other than to let the world know where you are and what you are doing?
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I think is that you never know how people are able to do what they do, I do know that some people that I see on facebook doing a bunch of things they cant afford it at all are traveling with next month paycheck while other people are able to do things with coupons or groupon offers or miles from credit cards.. Before I used to feel down of reading of all these adventures but I dont see it as bragging I see it as people excited about the things they are doing. The truth is that we only share the good things in facebook not the bad so we never know what is happening behind that computer.
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EXCESSIVE bragging annoys me. But not as much as passive-agressiveness.
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Posted by NervousNell
What I don't get is the check ins. What is the point? Other than to let eveyone know that you are out and about and what cool places you are at. I don't mind the- "had a great day at the winieres" status or the pictures of said day there. I don't mind people getting excited that they just booked a trip to Vegas and posting about it.
What annoys me is- So and so just checked in at Chili's. So and so just checked in at JFK airport. So and so just checked in at the coolest, hippest, trendiest bar on the face of the planet.
What is the point of that? Other than to let the world know where you are and what you are doing?
hahaha i blocked check-ins from my fb. best decision ever!
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Posted 8/16/12 5:29 PM |
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Re: Wall Street Journal Article about FB Bragging
I think if you actually like the person making a happy post, you enjoy the updates. If you don't really like the person, it is seen as bragging and being annoying.
I've tried to eliminate people I don't actually like from my friends list for just that reason.
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This is why I won't join facebook. Still holding out.
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Posted by NervousNell
What I don't get is the check ins. What is the point? Other than to let eveyone know that you are out and about and what cool places you are at. I don't mind the- "had a great day at the winieres" status or the pictures of said day there. I don't mind people getting excited that they just booked a trip to Vegas and posting about it.
What annoys me is- So and so just checked in at Chili's. So and so just checked in at JFK airport. So and so just checked in at the coolest, hippest, trendiest bar on the face of the planet.
What is the point of that? Other than to let the world know where you are and what you are doing?
hahaha i blocked check-ins from my fb. best decision ever!
I've tried to do that & it doesn't work!
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