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hazeleyes33
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
Posted by MamaNDaddyof3
I just see so many parents who are not parenting their children and parents like us who do, has a difficult time.
what does that mean?? so because some parents their kids cell phones they are not parenting them????
No, sorry, was not specifically talking about cellphones and this would actually turn into a HUGE thread then--
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hazeleyes33
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
I still dont see how that applies to this post and why you felt it necessary to go on the offensive and make those of us who feel cells are perfectly appropriate go on the defensive. On page one, people answered whatever they felt and you quoted and "attacked" almost every poster who felt a cell was OK and asked them to defend their position. We were talking about cell phones, not what anyone felt was the appropriate way to parent their child, in any regard. I think its quite presumptuous of you to draw a line from someone saying....yes I think my son can have a phone in middle school to you then saying I have a difficult time with parents who dont parent as I do .
I guess it does not-sorry--
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eddiesmommy
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
Posted by hazeleyes33
I still dont see how that applies to this post and why you felt it necessary to go on the offensive and make those of us who feel cells are perfectly appropriate go on the defensive. On page one, people answered whatever they felt and you quoted and "attacked" almost every poster who felt a cell was OK and asked them to defend their position. We were talking about cell phones, not what anyone felt was the appropriate way to parent their child, in any regard. I think its quite presumptuous of you to draw a line from someone saying....yes I think my son can have a phone in middle school to you then saying I have a difficult time with parents who dont parent as I do .
I guess it does not-sorry--
thats fine and for the record, I have a difficult time with parents who dont respect the choices I make in regards to how I choose to parent my child.
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| Posted 1/27/10 4:11 PM |
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InfinitiGal
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
One day when you have no idea where your kid is, havent heard from them, have called all their friends, and still can't find them........
You may wish you could just dial a number and get in touch with them. And that has nothing to do with "raising your child to be smart enough", it's called s&it happens.
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itkocak
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
Message edited 11/28/2011 7:39:28 PM.
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hazeleyes33
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
well in one of her after school programs the ta was showing the kids The Dark Knight and she remembered that she was told she wasn't allowed to see that movie so she called me to make sure and let me know that she was going to study hall instead.
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because when she's standing at the bus stop waiting for the bus and a group of older high school kids jumped another kid 30 yards down the street an beat the living sh!t out of him she wanted to get in touch with me and her mom for one of us to come get her.
listen i have learned in 12 years as a parent to never say never.
you think you have all the answers but you don't even know the questions yet.
Sorry to to hear that and I don't have all the answers but I do have a middle schooler so I am going by my experience.
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itkocak
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
Message edited 11/28/2011 7:40:15 PM.
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ExpectingJoy
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
My answer is: keep it away from my house as long as possible.
For every reason listed above- and one other no one has mentioned.
The CAMERA.
I don't like children having cameras in school that they could easily send out to any other person in the community. It could potentially ruin another childs life. Where I live- there was a young girl who after swim practice was showering in the gym, another mean girl took a instant pic with another girls cell phone, and sent out this picture to everyone in school virtually. The girl whose cell was stolen couldn't prove that she didnt do it and received major suspension. At 12 years old, no apologizing or suspension is ever going to make up for that pain. I believe it is a very dangeous, potential bullying or blackmailing tool. I wouldn't want anyone to do that to my daughter- G-d forbid- and want my daughter to do that to anyone. The peer pressure, the misjudgements... even a good kid could go astray. This is just one example of cyberbullying; I can think of so many more.... Think about it- future colleges, teachers, parents, other kids... can have access to these pictures in a click. Responsibility really isnt even a factor here.
Message edited 1/27/2010 4:58:31 PM.
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aliwnec10
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
not until he can drive. 
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MrsPowers
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
Posted by pharmcat2000
As I'm reading all these replies I my mind just keeps going.
My DH and I will have to decide at what point it is necessary and our DC are responsible enough to have a phone...and that is a decision that can only be made as time goes on.
But I do want to point out a few things that I DON'T like about tweens having cell phones, which I think is the reason I'm so opposed to it right now.
-The literacy level of the youth seems like it is plummeting. Lots of kids (and many adults) are so used to slang and abbreviations that they can't spell properly, form proper sentences or even put coherent thoughts into words. There has always been slang among the youth in every generation, but I feel like when I was young, at least we knew the right words to use and how to spell them. In a lot of situations, I don't think the young people today know the difference.
-Too many kids have a sense of entitlement about everything nowadays.
-When we talked on the family phone, usually in the kitchen (this was before cordless phones), we were still in earshot of our parents and it was alot harder to "hide" things from them. Now that kids can make calls from anywhere at any time, I just feel like they can get into more trouble because there is so much more secrecy.
-Having a conversation with somebody (rather than a text), or getting together to "gab" was actually a skill being learned to be used later in life, and I think kids are lacking in that lesson now. I feel that is obviated by the fact that everybody I work with would rather send an email instead of picking up a phone and calling a person. It drives me nuts!
There are my opinions now, and as I said above, my opinions may change as my children grow, but I will have to weigh my reasons above against the reasons that they may have for needing that cell phone.
Very well said and I agree with all of your points!
In addition, the instant communication aspect of cell phones is really effecting schools today. Many kids do not see why it is inappropriate to have a cell phone out during a class.
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ddunne2
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
Posted by pharmcat2000
As I'm reading all these replies I my mind just keeps going.
My DH and I will have to decide at what point it is necessary and our DC are responsible enough to have a phone...and that is a decision that can only be made as time goes on.
But I do want to point out a few things that I DON'T like about tweens having cell phones, which I think is the reason I'm so opposed to it right now.
-The literacy level of the youth seems like it is plummeting. Lots of kids (and many adults) are so used to slang and abbreviations that they can't spell properly, form proper sentences or even put coherent thoughts into words. There has always been slang among the youth in every generation, but I feel like when I was young, at least we knew the right words to use and how to spell them. In a lot of situations, I don't think the young people today know the difference.
-Too many kids have a sense of entitlement about everything nowadays.
-When we talked on the family phone, usually in the kitchen (this was before cordless phones), we were still in earshot of our parents and it was alot harder to "hide" things from them. Now that kids can make calls from anywhere at any time, I just feel like they can get into more trouble because there is so much more secrecy.
-Having a conversation with somebody (rather than a text), or getting together to "gab" was actually a skill being learned to be used later in life, and I think kids are lacking in that lesson now. I feel that is obviated by the fact that everybody I work with would rather send an email instead of picking up a phone and calling a person. It drives me nuts!
There are my opinions now, and as I said above, my opinions may change as my children grow, but I will have to weigh my reasons above against the reasons that they may have for needing that cell phone.
I completely agree and already see the downfall of proper language and communication skills as a business owner. I can't tell you how many people send resumes that are incoherent, have spelling errors and say at the bottom "Sent from my Blackberry". Young adults who have just graduated college or high school have no sense of proper communication skills and I think a lot of it has to do with the cell phone generations. I just interviewed a girl for a part time position and got a follow up text to my email that said "Hey Doreen, thanks for the interview...hope I get the job.". REALLY? I get that hand written notes are a lost art now, but sending a potential employer a text message and addressing it "Hey (first name)" and not "Dear Mrs/Ms Grr.....". It drives me freaking nuts. Its the age of shortcuts and instant gratification and I think these trends which are so marked by technological advances affect more than how kids grow up and communicate.
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ddunne2
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
I also wanted to add that for many of the same reasons I won't have my tween carrying around a cell phone, I will also not have a Wii in my house when my child is only 5 years old. I just think these are things beyond their years and kids should be playing outside, doing puzzles, coloring, whatever. I get that most of these things were not available to us when we were growing up, but we didn't have every hot gadget out there either.
Its all just another symptom of the changing world we live on where kids are mistakenly treated beyond their years and all too often, they are parented less and given freedoms that they are not mature enough to handle. Kinda like parents who want to be friends, and not parents.
And no, I'm not saying a cell phone or a Wii dooms your child. By no means is that my intention. I just think more effort on traditional values and not the technological age could make a difference for many kids futures.
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keepinmyman
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
We gave DD her phone when she went into middle school. DS ended up with his in 5th grade. They use together about 15 mintues of usage every month, no joke. We have unlimited texting and that's pretty much how they communicate with their friends. Neither of them like to talk on the phone.
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luvmytwins
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Re: What age do you think is appropriate for a cell phone?
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Posted by ddunne2
High School. Before that, I think that the parent should know where the child is at all times. I mean, where is a 7th grader going that a parent wouldn't know about that would require getting in touch with them with a cell phone, not to mention a 9 year old. That is absolutely ridiculous, IMO.
I think kids today are handed everything on a platter and that is why so many grow up with a false sense of entitlement. A cell phone at 8, then they;ll be expecting a car at 16.
Sorry, but no one in elementary school "needs" a cell phone. Sure they might want one and it may be convenient every now and then, but overall, completely uneccesary.
Can you tell it drives me nuts!
word for word. ITA!
I agree.
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