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What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Full article here
Lead para:
The developers behind a controversial bid to build a mosque and Islamic center at Ground Zero have upped the ante in their audacious effort by applying for $5 million in 9/11 rebuilding funds -- outraging some family members and first-responders.
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
In the words of Motley Crue I would tell them "don't go away mad, just go away"
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| Posted 11/23/10 10:36 AM |
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by DMT
In the words of Motley Crue I would tell them "don't go away mad, just go away"
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| Posted 11/23/10 10:45 AM |
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mrsBLT
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
 this whole thing enrages me. their whole reasoning for wanting that spot was that there isn't another mosque in downtown manhattan... there IS one, a very popular one. they say that it has nothing to do with 9/11 or ground zero and shouldn't be associated with any of those events... now they're going after 9/11 funds?
fukc them and fukc their mosque. they should have taken the offer that trump gave them and went to a different location.
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| Posted 11/23/10 10:47 AM |
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PrettyPeonies
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Robert "Bobby" Ehmer
This is the only thing I can think of in response to that. 
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:06 AM |
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OffWithHerHead23
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other people's freedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during World War II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Edited for grammar.
Message edited 11/23/2010 11:18:53 AM.
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:13 AM |
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BunnyWife
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by booklove83
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other pefreedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during WorWar II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Thank you. I completely agree. I also don't think The NY Post is the best place to get information on this subject.
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:16 AM |
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DiamondGirl
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by booklove83
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other people's freedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during World War II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Edited for grammar.
I agree with THIS.
But why should they use 9/11 funds to build it?  I see no connection there--why should they be entitled to 9/11 funds? They are not even at ground zero..I am confused.
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:22 AM |
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Kahuna
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Sorry I only read NY Post for Page Six. That ****'s funny! I'm always suspicious of their "news" articles.
This article has more details
New York Times Article
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:25 AM |
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OffWithHerHead23
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by DiamondGirl
But why should they use 9/11 funds to build it? I see no connection there--why should they be entitled to 9/11 funds? They are not even at ground zero..I am confused.
If I understand it right, if you are rebuilding within a certain number of blocks of Ground Zero, you can apply for funds... to my knowledge it is a revitalization effort. They are building there. Why should they not receive funding, or at least be eligible to apply for it like everyone else?
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:31 AM |
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eddiesmommy
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
"Any society that would give up a little liberty to gain a little security will deserve neither and lose both" - Ben Franklin
This has always summed up this debate for me.
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:35 AM |
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LeShellem
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by booklove83
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other people's freedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during World War II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Edited for grammar.
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
I'm not opposed to the mosque. However, I am bothered by the attempt to get that money- wasn't one of the arguments in favor that it was privately funded (and could thus build where they wanted?) And they're not technically "rebuilding", right? It's a new building. Rebuilding money should go to businesses and organizations that were displaced.
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:45 AM |
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Ophelia
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
"rebuilding" in the sense that they are helping the struggling businesses.
it's not to be taken necessarily in the literal sense.
this whole debate makes me shake my head.
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| Posted 11/23/10 12:14 PM |
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SweetTooth
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by Ophelia
"rebuilding" in the sense that they are helping the struggling businesses.
it's not to be taken necessarily in the literal sense.
this whole debate makes me shake my head.
right, it would revitalize the area - by bringing people to the COMMUNITY CENTER, the hope is stores, etc. would start to move in as well.
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| Posted 11/23/10 12:21 PM |
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RothschildNY
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
I have no problem with the Mosque. I hope they build it and I hope they get the grant.
Ther was a Mosque on the 17th floor of the WTC.
There is a Mosque, right now, in the pentagon building.
And there is a Mosque, or sorts, about 2 blocks away from the proposed culteral center.
I see no disrespect with them building a CULTURAL CENTER right by the WTC. Just liek a JCC or YMCA.
I also know that people are VERY sensitive to this, and I understand why. I respect those opinions, but RESPECTFULLY disagree.
But this building is going up on a isde street with nothing there. The buildings are empty and abandoned. Kudus for bringing in jobs and commerce and LIFE to that area.
I celebrate the peacefull members of the Muslim faith. Just liek I celebrate the peaceful members of the Jewish and Christian faith.
For ME, there is no room to hate or protest this GOOD thing. There is no room to protest peacful people putting up a building that will do nothing but good for the area.
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| Posted 11/23/10 12:22 PM |
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MrsA714
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by RothschildNY
But this building is going up on a isde street with nothing there. The buildings are empty and abandoned. Kudus for bringing in jobs and commerce and LIFE to that area.
The buildings are not abandoned and empty. I worked on that block for several years and now work a few blocks away. The only building I know of that is empty, is the old Burlington Coat Factory building where the proposed mosque is going. There's a bar/food joint right next door, a clothing store, an Amish supermarket and occupied office buildings. Either way, I'm all for revitalizing the area. If they are eligible to apply, then go for it.
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by BunnyWife
Posted by booklove83
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other pefreedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during WorWar II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Thank you. I completely agree. I also don't think The NY Post is the best place to get information on this subject.
Agree with both posters!
The NY Post is usually not the best place to get any information on any subject.
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heidla
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by julesrbf
Posted by BunnyWife
Posted by booklove83
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other pefreedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during WorWar II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Thank you. I completely agree. I also don't think The NY Post is the best place to get information on this subject.
Agree with both posters!
The NY Post is usually not the best place to get any information on any subject.
Agreed! Also, the report that I heard was that the $5mill asked for was not for rebuilding, but was for the public service programs (food kitchen, educational services for the community etc).
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| Posted 11/23/10 9:31 PM |
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by julesrbf
Posted by BunnyWife
Posted by booklove83
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other pefreedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during WorWar II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Thank you. I completely agree. I also don't think The NY Post is the best place to get information on this subject.
Agree with both posters!
The NY Post is usually not the best place to get any information on any subject.
HAHAHA you LITERALLY took the words right out of my mouth!! when i read that i had the exact same reaction.
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:42 PM |
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Mushesgirl
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
omg this man worked in our precinct Didn't know him but
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:46 PM |
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BaroqueMama
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by booklove83
I understand that this is a hot button issue for a lot of people.
However, to me, this would be like saying that you can't build a Christian church of any kind in downtown Oklahoma City, because Tim McVeigh was a fundamentalist Christian, and used his beliefs to justify doing what he did.
The people who destroyed the WTC were not representing Islam as a whole. They were representing a crazy, radical sect of Islam. I see no reason why this of Muslims, who have no ties to any radical sect, should not be allowed to build a place of worship, regardless of how many other mosques are in the area. Last I checked we have freedom of religion in this country. Once you start whittling away at other people's freedoms, it is ASKING for someone to whittle away at yours. I am reminded of the very great poem that was written by a Protestant minister during World War II in Germany:
First they came for the Jews and I did not speak out because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for the Communists and I did not speak out because I was not a Communist.
Then they came for the trade unionists and I did not speak out because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for me and there was no one left to speak out for me.
Edited for grammar.
I agree with THIS.
But why should they use 9/11 funds to build it? I see no connection there--why should they be entitled to 9/11 funds? They are not even at ground zero..I am confused.
I also totally agree with what was posted above, but in response to the 9/11 part, I'm not inclined to believe a story from the Post.
I'd need a more credible source before actually questioning it seriously.
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Mushesgirl
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
The former Burlington Coat factory is CURRENTLY a mosque. Just an fyi for those who don't know.
beyond chutzpah them asking for that money
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| Posted 11/23/10 11:59 PM |
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summerBaby10
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Re: What are your thoughts on this (new info re:the proposed mosque at "Ground Zero"):
Posted by annoyedTTCer
Posted by DMT
In the words of Motley Crue I would tell them "don't go away mad, just go away"
ITA
ditto 
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