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What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

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mikeswife06
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What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

The only elementary jobs out there either require bilingual extension or say bilingual preferred. I understand that there are growing populations of ESL students but, I went to school for 6 years to do this and now I need to learn how to speak another language? So how many of you are bilingual or hold the extension?

Message edited 7/4/2007 2:24:58 PM.

Posted 7/4/07 2:09 PM
 

beautyq115
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Not me

Posted 7/4/07 3:12 PM
 

4monkeys
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

im bilingual Chat Icon actually trilingual. where are these jobs? (I havent been looking though Chat Icon )
I know a few districts that I was told would hire me quicker because I speak Spanish... didnt know how true that was.. hmmm...

Posted 7/4/07 7:05 PM
 

mikeswife06
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Posted by anna

im bilingual Chat Icon actually trilingual. where are these jobs? (I havent been looking though Chat Icon )
I know a few districts that I was told would hire me quicker because I speak Spanish... didnt know how true that was.. hmmm...



Chat Icon Trilingual? That's incredible. How long have you been speaking other languages? I have heard the younger you start the easier it is to learn. I can't imagine trying to learn 2 other languages!!!! Though I would love to be fluent in Spanish and French.

Posted 7/4/07 8:20 PM
 

JustJack
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Unfortunatly I don't either. I know Brentwood is looking for bilingual teachers.

Posted 7/4/07 10:27 PM
 

4monkeys
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Posted by mikeswife06

Posted by anna

im bilingual Chat Icon actually trilingual. where are these jobs? (I havent been looking though Chat Icon )
I know a few districts that I was told would hire me quicker because I speak Spanish... didnt know how true that was.. hmmm...



Chat Icon Trilingual? That's incredible. How long have you been speaking other languages? I have heard the younger you start the easier it is to learn. I can't imagine trying to learn 2 other languages!!!! Though I would love to be fluent in Spanish and French.



Im first generation Italian AMerican, so I grew up speaking Italian at home,and took SPanish in school and it was very easy to learn. and I always use it when I need to, whether speaking to someone at a store, school, etc.

Ive picked up Greek and Armenian here and there too, just little bits Chat Icon

Posted 7/4/07 10:33 PM
 

Karen
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

I think the ESL extension is just a few classes, bilingual is obviously a lot more intense. I see a lot of districts nowadays posting about "bilingual preferred" (even those districts where you don't perceive a huge need).

I know enough Spanish to communicate with the parents, but I wouldn't call myself bilingual by any stretch Chat Icon .

Posted 7/4/07 10:33 PM
 

4monkeys
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Posted by JackieandJustin

Unfortunatly I don't either. I know Brentwood is looking for bilingual teachers.



In what grades/areas ? does anyone know the starting salary/range ?

Posted 7/4/07 10:34 PM
 

Karen
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Anna -

this is the job listing from OLAS

BRWN0023051-0013 Bilingual Teachers~Elementary 09/04/2007 Brentwood Union Free school District

Posted 7/4/07 10:46 PM
 

4monkeys
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Thanks Karen. Chat Icon

I just signed up and was checking out OLAS just now. I havent really searched for jobs, but I might as well see whats out there.

Question- some say bilingual preferred, some say bilingual extension required..
I wonder what the legit thing is there.. kwim?
I am bilingual but not by degree.

I had seen the posting on their home website (Brentwood) and it said bilingual preferred.. so Im wondering what the rules are with this. (whether I need the bilingual extension or not).

Posted 7/4/07 10:56 PM
 

Karen
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Maybe call BOCES and see what the bilingual extension involves? They have been awesome with helping me to get my business certification. They told me step by step exactly what I needed to do, but unfortunately there is a 15-week wait in actually getting the certificate printed Chat Icon .

ETA: I'm not really sure how on interviews they determine if someone is bilingual if it's just "preferred" and not "required". Maybe someone on the interviewing committee will "test" you? That's a good question!!

Message edited 7/4/2007 11:01:54 PM.

Posted 7/4/07 11:00 PM
 

4monkeys
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

yeah, I'll look into it- thanks Chat Icon

yikes 15 weeks Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/4/07 11:04 PM
 

Tah-wee-ZAH
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Back in 93 when I was first looking, I had my teaching license for MA as well. The cover of the Cambridge, MA schools application listen over 20 foreign languages and asked you to check off which ones you knew. Most were Asian.

The reason being most graduate students from MIT are foreign born and their kids are in the public schools there.

Posted 7/5/07 7:19 AM
 

MrsRivera
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Posted by mikeswife06

The only elementary jobs out there either require bilingual extension or say bilingual preferred. I understand that there are growing populations of ESL students but, I went to school for 6 years to do this and now I need to learn how to speak another language? So how many of you are bilingual or hold the extension?



This makes me angry, too. I mean, I know that they are in need of people who speak other languages, but it just makes me angry that now, in a country where the native language is supposedly English, an English-speaking teacher can't get a job because they're "unqualified"!!!! Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon Chat Icon

Posted 7/5/07 10:05 AM
 

Atlast07
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

I am an ESL teacher and our bilingual program in my building is growing every year. If you have your bilingual extension you are going to get a job in a heartbeat. That is where the demand is right now.

Posted 7/5/07 10:18 PM
 

4monkeys
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Posted by Deirdre730

I am an ESL teacher and our bilingual program in my building is growing every year. If you have your bilingual extension you are going to get a job in a heartbeat. That is where the demand is right now.



But are the jobs mostly in spanish speaking classrooms, or ESL or are there also Elem classrooms with just a need to speak spanish for a few students?

(I hope that makes sense) Chat Icon

Posted 7/5/07 10:45 PM
 

Atlast07
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Being that there is such an influx of ELL's, mostly Spanish speaking on LI, the state requires you to offer a bilingual section for that grade level. If you have 20 or more students in the same grade, in the same building with the same linguistic background you have to offer a bilingual class. If the families opt out then the students will get ESL only. You must offer it though (not that everywhere does do that)

Also, the need for Spanish speaking teachers comes into play with all of the crazy testing we are facing now. None of the ELL's are exempt from the Social Studies tests, Science tests, and/or math tests. ELL's are only exempt from the ELA exam in January for the first year they are in the country. After a year they have to take it. Yes, the ELL's get special accommodations on the assessments, and all of the assessments except for they ELA they do get the test in their native language (ie SPanish) but if they weren't instructed in Spanish the chances that they will do wll are slim. It is the same for HS with all of the regents exams. This is where the Bilingual/Spanish speaking personnel comes in.

So sorry this has turned into a big annoying post. I hope it clears it up a bit for you.Chat Icon

Posted 7/6/07 9:51 AM
 

Atlast07
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

ALso....if you are looking into a bilingual extension BOCES/BETAC has an ITI program. It is called the intensice Teacher Institute. We have about 5 teachers in the program in my district and they are working on being certified. It is through St. Johns, and I believe that BOCES funds it, so you do mot have to pay for it. Here is the info from the site: HTH!!!


Intensive Teacher Institute in Bilingual Education & English as a Second Language (ITI-BE)

The New York State Education Department Office of Bilingual Education created the ITI-BE to address the shortage of certified bilingual and English as a second language (ESL) teachers in New York. This state-funded program provides tuition assistance for twelve credits of specialized coursework and facilitates the certification process for bilingual or ESL general education teachers who are currently working in New York public schools. The ITI Program, which is housed at Eastern Suffolk BOCES, collaborates with school districts and institutions of higher education (IHEs) throughout the state. (Eligibility requirements and an application for the program can be downloaded from the following web site: http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/biling/iti.htm.)

Posted 7/6/07 9:53 AM
 

4monkeys
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Deirdre- thanks SOOO MUCH for all this info. Im def going to look into it.

Im still trying to absorb everything you wrote, thanks being so resourceful ! Chat Icon Chat Icon

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ETA: I wonder if its for teachers that are currently working only?
Im not working, but have completed my Masters.
Im going to read further on the site Chat Icon Chat Icon

Message edited 7/6/2007 10:06:38 PM.

Posted 7/6/07 10:05 PM
 

Atlast07
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

anytime Anna!!!Chat Icon

Posted 7/7/07 10:07 AM
 

MrsPowers
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Re: What is up with this?!??!?!?!?!?!

Posted by Deirdre730

ALso....if you are looking into a bilingual extension BOCES/BETAC has an ITI program. It is called the intensice Teacher Institute. We have about 5 teachers in the program in my district and they are working on being certified. It is through St. Johns, and I believe that BOCES funds it, so you do mot have to pay for it. Here is the info from the site: HTH!!!


Intensive Teacher Institute in Bilingual Education & English as a Second Language (ITI-BE)

The New York State Education Department Office of Bilingual Education created the ITI-BE to address the shortage of certified bilingual and English as a second language (ESL) teachers in New York. This state-funded program provides tuition assistance for twelve credits of specialized coursework and facilitates the certification process for bilingual or ESL general education teachers who are currently working in New York public schools. The ITI Program, which is housed at Eastern Suffolk BOCES, collaborates with school districts and institutions of higher education (IHEs) throughout the state. (Eligibility requirements and an application for the program can be downloaded from the following web site: http://www.emsc.nysed.gov/biling/iti.htm.)



Thanks for this info! I definitely might look into this program. It is something I have always been interested in.

Posted 7/7/07 2:24 PM
 
 
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