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chilltocam
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Why NOT Hillary
I am so not trying to start anything crazy here, but this election cycle seems to have really divided people, more so than in the past. It seems like many more people are voting against the "other" candidate, rather than actually supporting a particular candidate. In the past, I have always supported a candidate more than I was against the opposing candidate, but this year I am so confused. The only thing I know for sure is that I do not want Trump to be our president. I know there are many people out there who are vehemently AGAINST Hillary, not just FOR another candidate. If that is how you feel, can you please (as politely as possible) explain why you are AGAINST Hillary. Thank you.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
I know I shouldn't bother to post and I have been so good at avoiding these political posts but this is my opinion....
People hate Hilary bc for whatever reason men can get away with things women cannot.
I am not saying Hilary is 100% perfect or that her record is but I honestly feel that many who dislike just can't stand seeing a "tough" woman. When women are tough they are a bitchh, when men are tough it is expected. When women don't follow all the rules it is closely scrutinized but my feeling is A LOT of what people come down on her about would be overlooked if she was a man.
Also the fact that she didn't leave Bill, she is judged for, judged for much more so than say a man who actually cheats on his wife.
We as a country are sexist. Men can do things women cannot, this is my opinion.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
I know the question was why not Hillary, but I'm copying and pasting my response from the Trump thread because I feel that it needs to be said pertaining to this too.
Her past doesn't bother me one bit. So, her husband banged an intern in the white house. Trump's an adulterous man who is on his 3rd wife.
Benghazi was a joke that the GOP has spent years and millions of dollars to try and make into something that it wasn't. There have been other lives lost under other secretaries of state at embassies and you didn't see the witch hunt that went on with her.
The emails are another joke. The ones that were supposedly "classified" were classified AFTER THE FACT. Therefore, nothing she did was illegal. Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell both admitted to doing the same thing, but you didn't see it made into the fiasco that it was for her.
The GOP should have been focusing on getting their own party's shit together instead of focusing on being such azzholes to Obama and Clinton. Maybe they wouldn't have such a divided and pathetic party today if they had.
Why am I voting for her? Because underneath her corporate, establishment image, I still believe that she wants to do good by the American people. Is she maybe bought by certain corporations? Maybe. But, she has been helping minorities and children for decades and don't think she is going to turn around once elected president and become some corporate monster. When people say they don't trust her, it makes me laugh. Oh, and you trust ANY of the other candidates? Other than Sanders, they are all snakes.
Trump might be the "outsider" because he is not a politician. But, he is as much an insider as anyone since he has donated to and been part of the establishment for 40+ years. And don't even get me started on his flip-flopping of views. Yes, Hillary did too. But, a lot of it was views she held in college or many years ago. She has already said that her "super predators" comment was wrong and she has learned from those mistakes and it has brought her to her current stance on the criminal justice system. Unlike trump, who flip flops and either denies that he did, or makes excuses for it. And that, to me, is the core difference between him and Hillary. She is able to admit her mistakes. He has never apologized for anything he has ever done. I'm sure the central park 5 are still waiting for their apologies.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by ohbaby08
I know the question was why not Hillary, but I'm copying and pasting my response from the Trump thread because I feel that it needs to be said pertaining to this too.
Her past doesn't bother me one bit. So, her husband banged an intern in the white house. Trump's an adulterous man who is on his 3rd wife.
Benghazi was a joke that the GOP has spent years and millions of dollars to try and make into something that it wasn't. There have been other lives lost under other secretaries of state at embassies and you didn't see the witch hunt that went on with her.
The emails are another joke. The ones that were supposedly "classified" were classified AFTER THE FACT. Therefore, nothing she did was illegal. Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell both admitted to doing the same thing, but you didn't see it made into the fiasco that it was for her.
The GOP should have been focusing on getting their own party's shit together instead of focusing on being such azzholes to Obama and Clinton. Maybe they wouldn't have such a divided and pathetic party today if they had.
Why am I voting for her? Because underneath her corporate, establishment image, I still believe that she wants to do good by the American people. Is she maybe bought by certain corporations? Maybe. But, she has been helping minorities and children for decades and don't think she is going to turn around once elected president and become some corporate monster. When people say they don't trust her, it makes me laugh. Oh, and you trust ANY of the other candidates? Other than Sanders, they are all snakes.
Trump might be the "outsider" because he is not a politician. But, he is as much an insider as anyone since he has donated to and been part of the establishment for 40+ years. And don't even get me started on his flip-flopping of views. Yes, Hillary did too. But, a lot of it was views she held in college or many years ago. She has already said that her "super predators" comment was wrong and she has learned from those mistakes and it has brought her to her current stance on the criminal justice system. Unlike trump, who flip flops and either denies that he did, or makes excuses for it. And that, to me, is the core difference between him and Hillary. She is able to admit her mistakes. He has never apologized for anything he has ever done. I'm sure the central park 5 are still waiting for their apologies.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
I don't quite get it either.
What I have seen is the GOP do its magic and bring up non issues. (Read my whole post before responding. That's all I ask)
She was cleared of Benghazi by the GOP.
To quote:
Feinstein, the chair of the Senate Intelligence Committee, and vice chairman Saxby Chambliss, R-Ga., led the committee’s review of the attacks that were published in a bipartisan report that was declassified Wednesday. Though their the report faults the State Department for failing to sufficiently increase security to protect the diplomatic facility in light of increased security threats, it does not directly connect Clinton to the decision making.
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for. I'm not saying she is all peaches and roses. Not a chance on this issue. But lets talk about economy, security, jobs taxes. Not flucking emails on a flucking server.
Look. I'm not saying she is the end all and be all of candidates. She takes big money just like everyone else. She takes money from special interest just like everyone else.
But I always keep in mind, for ALL candidates, that what we see and read in the news is NOT the news. Its what they WANT you to see and hear, not the facts.
Lets be frank. The GOP are WIZZARDS in political spin. I mean that as a compliment. They know what the hell they are doing and they do it REALLY well. The Dem's are not nearly as good as it. So when I see any story (first) attacking a Dem candidate I want to look for the facts. They are there. But most people only believe what they read in the headlines. The GOP has done an amazing job attacking her credibility and honesty. Its fascinating to watch.
But its all headlines. And when we did deeper we find the truth, of ALL the candidates, not just her.
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Why NOT Hillary
Also want to add, Sanders, to his credit, refused to make an issue of the emails, he said it was nonsense. He is a straight shooter and I like him although I do not see how his ideas could really work in the US.
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I feel she has an air of entitlement. I've heard more than one pundit refer to this as a 'coronation' which I think is true. It kind of disgusts me that the media has been blatantly pro-Hillary (and pro-Trump). I feel the media has chosen the front runners, not the people, though I know that is a separate issue and not the fault of either of them.
I also feel she has not been honest about her Wall Street associations. She (and her daughter) have misrepresented, maybe intentionally, some of Sander's positions which bothers me. I would like to know what's in the transcripts of those speeches.
Ultimately I will likely vote for her though, because I feel Trump would be a dangerous president. I have supporter Bernie Sanders for a very long time but if it's not to be then I will vote for her though it won't be enthusiastic.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by MrsProfessor
I feel she has an air of entitlement. I've heard more than one pundit refer to this as a 'coronation' which I think is true. It kind of disgusts me that the media has been blatantly pro-Hillary (and pro-Trump).
Exactly what I said. We don't get the news anymore. We get what "they" tell us is news.
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Posted by MrsProfessor
I feel she has an air of entitlement. I've heard more than one pundit refer to this as a 'coronation' which I think is true. It kind of disgusts me that the media has been blatantly pro-Hillary (and pro-Trump). I feel the media has chosen the front runners, not the people, though I know that is a separate issue and not the fault of either of them.
I also feel she has not been honest about her Wall Street associations. She (and her daughter) have misrepresented, maybe intentionally, some of Sander's positions which bothers me. I would like to know what's in the transcripts of those speeches.
Ultimately I will likely vote for her though, because I feel Trump would be a dangerous president. I have supporter Bernie Sanders for a very long time but if it's not to be then I will vote for her though it won't be enthusiastic.
I agree with this sentiment.
And she's a polished politician with her pockets lined. I don't appreciate that. I prefer a no-nonsense straight shooter who is more of an "average American" like sanders.
I think all people on both sides are sick of the only candidates being wealthy people who are in bed with tons of entities that run our country and only serve the wealthy.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by ohbaby08
I know the question was why not Hillary, but I'm copying and pasting my response from the Trump thread because I feel that it needs to be said pertaining to this too.
Her past doesn't bother me one bit. So, her husband banged an intern in the white house. Trump's an adulterous man who is on his 3rd wife.
Benghazi was a joke that the GOP has spent years and millions of dollars to try and make into something that it wasn't. There have been other lives lost under other secretaries of state at embassies and you didn't see the witch hunt that went on with her.
The emails are another joke. The ones that were supposedly "classified" were classified AFTER THE FACT. Therefore, nothing she did was illegal. Condolezza Rice and Colin Powell both admitted to doing the same thing, but you didn't see it made into the fiasco that it was for her.
The GOP should have been focusing on getting their own party's shit together instead of focusing on being such azzholes to Obama and Clinton. Maybe they wouldn't have such a divided and pathetic party today if they had.
Why am I voting for her? Because underneath her corporate, establishment image, I still believe that she wants to do good by the American people. Is she maybe bought by certain corporations? Maybe. But, she has been helping minorities and children for decades and don't think she is going to turn around once elected president and become some corporate monster. When people say they don't trust her, it makes me laugh. Oh, and you trust ANY of the other candidates? Other than Sanders, they are all snakes.
Trump might be the "outsider" because he is not a politician. But, he is as much an insider as anyone since he has donated to and been part of the establishment for 40+ years. And don't even get me started on his flip-flopping of views. Yes, Hillary did too. But, a lot of it was views she held in college or many years ago. She has already said that her "super predators" comment was wrong and she has learned from those mistakes and it has brought her to her current stance on the criminal justice system. Unlike trump, who flip flops and either denies that he did, or makes excuses for it. And that, to me, is the core difference between him and Hillary. She is able to admit her mistakes. He has never apologized for anything he has ever done. I'm sure the central park 5 are still waiting for their apologies.
Very well said...
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Why NOT Hillary
I don't like the candidate.
The Candidate flip flops and buys votes with their gender (which is unimportant)
The Candidate is untrustworthy (which is like almost all other candidates)
The Candidate itself is equal in most other terms to the rest and brings no other new or moving motivation to the table.
The Candidate does not illicit any feeling of excitement or interest in me.
Therefore why WOULD I vote for such a candidate?
I will not.
Being told I should because:
Of the candidate's experience - meaningless, they quit
Of gender - meaningless gender equality is about who's best for the job not what's in their pants
Of their opponents? No, I judge you for your own merits, you are unworthy to me
Of their history - Meaningless, being a wife isn't a qualifier to me
Of her political stand - She's bought and slithers past what's important to me
Of her stand on issues that I believe in - She was against most that I believe in and only flipped over when it was convenient to her political advantage. So I can't give her credit for that.
Should I NOT vote for her because:
yes, Bengazi is actually important and what does it really matter? It always matters, but that's not enough to vote against you for the sake of a vote. Your temper tantrum however, was embarrassing. Your overall inability to be above the stupidity of the moment was telling.
Yes your utter ignorance of email deletion and hiding is telling since so far back into your lawyer days you've been lying POS, but hey aren't most politicians? So no, I can't hold that to your feet either. Again the all is equal rule applies, however, again you can't simply expect me to just be ok with your holier than thou excuse that you *CAN* simply get away with it because you can. It's getting a little tiring. How will that reflect in your ability to preside in the oval office? How many favors do you owe?
No I don't dislike her for all the fancy force fed media highlights. I dislike her for the basic reason I'd dislike any candidate male or female. The fact that she happens to have extra baggage is just a coincidence, but plays no part in how much I really am disgusted in the fact she'll be one of the two options for our country.
SO much was my disdain while she was the Senator and I lived in New York, that I made it a PERSONAL goal to vote in my primaries here in Texas.
It took me over 2 and a half hours to do so. I was walking in my door at 9:20pm last night just for the option to vote against Hillary. I am proud to have put my nearly meaningless vote on my ballot as she clearly won Texas.
Why, because it is my civil right to let it be known I do NOT want that candidate as my president. That Candidate does not represent what I want as a president. At the end of the day, it is our right to do exactly that. Vote as *WE* see fit. Electoral College does it's job but we must go out and vote. If we sit at home and say our votes don't matter then we have no voice to complain.
What will be will be.
But I can say I voted
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Can you tell us why are are FOR Hillary??
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ave1024
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by Paramount
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
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chilltocam
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
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Can you tell us why are are FOR Hillary??
I didn't say that I am FOR her. I am not sure at this point. Years and years ago I really liked what she stood for - fighting for the needy and underprivileged, especially children, in our society. A lot has changed since then. I know that socially (women's issues, poverty and immigration issues etc) she is much more aligned with my way of thinking. Do I think she has some negative things she has done - absolutely. But, compared to Trump (if those are our options), there is no choice in my opinion because Trump scares the hell out of me. So, like I said, this year seems to be more about voting AGAINST one candidate rather than FOR another
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by ave1024
Posted by Paramount
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
So the attacks during Clinton's tenure were his fault, but the attacks during Bush's time were not Bush's fault?
Which is it?
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by ave1024
Posted by Paramount
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
Perfectly said!!!!!! Word for word!!!!
You cannot say that the server isn't a big deal! That is a big deal
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by Serendipity
Posted by ave1024
Posted by Paramount
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
Perfectly said!!!!!! Word for word!!!!
You cannot say that the server isn't a big deal! That is a big deal
Wonder then why Bernie wouldn't make it an issue....
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by JennP
Posted by ave1024
Posted by Paramount
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
So the attacks during Clinton's tenure were his fault, but the attacks during Bush's time were not Bush's fault?
Which is it?
Clinton immediately destroyed our foreign intelligence right when he came into office. He is probably one of the WORST presidents we have ever had regarding national security.
To potentially have his wife in charge during a time that's 100x more dangerous is real scary.
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Why NOT Hillary
I'll bite.
I don't agree with the idea of not having to pay for state college tuition.
I don't want Obama care to continue.
I don't agree with her stance on immigration.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by Paramount
Posted by MrsProfessor
I feel she has an air of entitlement. I've heard more than one pundit refer to this as a 'coronation' which I think is true. It kind of disgusts me that the media has been blatantly pro-Hillary (and pro-Trump).
Exactly what I said. We don't get the news anymore. We get what "they" tell us is news.
This! CNN - Clinton News Network. I also hate that she is in all of the banks pockets.
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Why NOT Hillary
Healthcare. We can't go back to the mess it was before. It's even more important to me now that I have a sick daughter who may now have a pre-existing condition.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by ave1024
Posted by JennP
Posted by ave1024
Posted by Paramount
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
So the attacks during Clinton's tenure were his fault, but the attacks during Bush's time were not Bush's fault?
Which is it?
Clinton immediately destroyed our foreign intelligence right when he came into office. He is probably one of the WORST presidents we have ever had regarding national security.
To potentially have his wife in charge during a time that's 100x more dangerous is real scary.
Not to mention the mortgage crisis and banks failing. Thank Clinton for it. Forgot to add- our debt to China? Clinton open the doors to Chinese production.
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
Posted by MrsMick
Posted by ave1024
Posted by JennP
Posted by ave1024
Posted by Paramount
And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
So the attacks during Clinton's tenure were his fault, but the attacks during Bush's time were not Bush's fault?
Which is it?
Clinton immediately destroyed our foreign intelligence right when he came into office. He is probably one of the WORST presidents we have ever had regarding national security.
To potentially have his wife in charge during a time that's 100x more dangerous is real scary.
Not to mention the mortgage crisis and banks failing. Thank Clinton for it. Forgot to add- our debt to China? Clinton open the doors to Chinese production.
Many of these comments are about what Bill Clinton did (or didn't do and why you didn't like HIM as our president). So what I'm getting is that a lot of people didn't like Bill Clinton and so will not vote for Hillary. Is that correct?
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| Posted 3/2/16 11:34 AM |
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Pumpkin1
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Why NOT Hillary
Again, legitimate question: For those who want to do away with Obamacare, what should replace it?
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| Posted 3/2/16 11:35 AM |
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MrsMick
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Re: Why NOT Hillary
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And to add a PS. If we blame Hillary for Benghazi, then we HAVE to blame GWB for 9-11. He had all the intelligence but failed to act. Its the same thing. And I don't blame GWB for 9-11.
The GOP has made a big deal about the email on her server. Its a non issue. Its overblown because they needed SOMETHING to ding her for.
How can you say the server is not a big deal? For you to say this makes you look oblivious to current security issues.
In today's world of cyber security, for the secretary of state to have her own personal email server in her house is absolutely ridiculous. She even had her domains like clintonemail.com registered TO HER HOUSE which was publicly available for the world to look up. How do we really know that subsequent terrorist attacks that happened in the world weren't a result of information that she had which was intercepted.
And in regards to GWB and 9/11, most people put the blame on Slick Willy Clinton. His eight years destroyed our military and foreign intelligence. Look at all the crap that happened during Clinton's tenure on our home soil. The first WTC bombing. The US Embassy bombing. The USS Cole attack.
So the attacks during Clinton's tenure were his fault, but the attacks during Bush's time were not Bush's fault?
Which is it?
Clinton immediately destroyed our foreign intelligence right when he came into office. He is probably one of the WORST presidents we have ever had regarding national security.
To potentially have his wife in charge during a time that's 100x more dangerous is real scary.
Not to mention the mortgage crisis and banks failing. Thank Clinton for it. Forgot to add- our debt to China? Clinton open the doors to Chinese production.
Many of these comments are about what Bill Clinton did (or didn't do and why you didn't like HIM as our president). So what I'm getting is that a lot of people didn't like Bill Clinton and so will not vote for Hillary. Is that correct?
I would imagine they have the same policies.
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