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WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

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WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

Attached is an Op-Ed piece that appeared in the Wall Street Journal, written by Peggy Noonan re: what McCain and Obama need to do to win the election. I thought some points were interesting--I don't agree with everything she says, but I like reading Peggy Noonan.

Noonan Op-Ed

Interested to hear others thoughts on this (though it may get lost with the debate).

Posted 9/26/08 8:36 PM
 
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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

interesting

enjoyed reading it

Posted 9/26/08 8:49 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

for those who think Palin is helping the Dems...

"I agree with the cliché that when the issue is the economy, voters have a greater tendency to turn to the Democrats. The economy is a Democratic issue. But I am not at all certain that this is benefiting Barack Obama. The polls are dead even. This is astounding. The Democrat, after two wars and an unprecedented economic crisis, should be 10 or 20 points up right now. The polls say Mr. Obama is rising, but if he's not sweeping now, he's losing."

Posted 9/26/08 10:50 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

I agree that one of Obama's problems is that he is not a typical Democrat--I think a lot of people just don't know what to make of him. He isn't a Jessie Jackson, he's not like Joe Biden, and while I think it's a good thing the Democratic party has a different kind of politician now, a lot of people like the familiar. His lack of experience is also hurting him--too many people are leery of that, as well as his race to some degree I am sure.

And I also agree that Palin isn't hurting McCain as much as some may think. He has certainly lost votes because of her, but he's gained many too. People either love her or hate her, and I think many of those that hate her (myself included, though hate is too strong a word), weren't voting for McCain anyway for the most part.

Posted 9/27/08 8:14 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

Obama is not farther ahead in the polls because there are still a lot of people out there who won't vote for him because he's black, IMO.

I also don't think Palin is hurting McCain that badly either- people voted for Bush because he was the guy they wanted to have a beer with. People like Palin because they imagine her next to them at hockey games and going out with them to kill their dinner.

Posted 9/27/08 8:18 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

I dunno about palin not hurting McCains campaign... did you hear her opinion on the current financial crisis?

cafferty's view of palin's commentary on the economy


tell me it didn't remind you of another coherent interview you may have seen in the past....
mmm, deep thoughts on education

Posted 9/27/08 8:25 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

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I dunno about palin not hurting McCains campaign... did you hear her opinion on the current financial crisis?

cafferty's view of palin's commentary on the economy


tell me it didn't remind you of another coherent interview you may have seen in the past....
mmm, deep thoughts on education



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Thanks for posting that- I needed a laugh.

Posted 9/27/08 8:28 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

Posted by MrsProfessor

Obama is not farther ahead in the polls because there are still a lot of people out there who won't vote for him because he's black, IMO.




Sadly, I agree with this to a degree. many people don't see beyond his color... and that goes for both black and white voters.

Also, I believe that Obama is not farther ahead in the polls after two abyssmal Republican terms is because is EXTREMELY liberal, and many independent voters or "conservative democrats" think he is just way too left.

Posted 9/27/08 8:30 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

I forgot the Muslim thing too. There was this little piece on a news channel yesterday (sorry, don't recall the station) that interviewed independent voters and asked them if the debates decided anything for them. One woman said she liked Obama, but she had heard he is Muslim, and that worries her.

Scary way of thinking I know, but a lot of people out there still believe he is Muslim, despite the Rev. Wright controversy.

I think he's a new type of Democrat actually, and a lot of people don't know what to make of him, but experience, race, and religion are also holding him back.

Posted 9/28/08 3:53 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

Posted by cjik

I forgot the Muslim thing too. There was this little piece on a news channel yesterday (sorry, don't recall the station) that interviewed independent voters and asked them if the debates decided anything for them. One woman said she liked Obama, but she had heard he is Muslim, and that worries her.

Scary way of thinking I know, but a lot of people out there still believe he is Muslim, despite the Rev. Wright controversy.

I think he's a new type of Democrat actually, and a lot of people don't know what to make of him, but experience, race, and religion are also holding him back.



I had a heated conversation with someone I know for years the other day about this. He told me straight faced that he was Muslim. I said, he's not, but what I he were?

I also know for a fact that he is put off my his race.

He is a teacher in our school system.

Message edited 9/28/2008 6:01:01 PM.

Posted 9/28/08 5:00 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

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Posted by cjik

I forgot the Muslim thing too. There was this little piece on a news channel yesterday (sorry, don't recall the station) that interviewed independent voters and asked them if the debates decided anything for them. One woman said she liked Obama, but she had heard he is Muslim, and that worries her.

Scary way of thinking I know, but a lot of people out there still believe he is Muslim, despite the Rev. Wright controversy.

I think he's a new type of Democrat actually, and a lot of people don't know what to make of him, but experience, race, and religion are also holding him back.



I had a heated conversation with someone I know for years the other day about this. He told me straight faced that he was Muslim. I said, he's not, but what I he were?

I also know for a fact that he is put off my his race.

He is a teacher in our school system.




This is scary. A fairly well-educated individual believes this? And as you said, really why should it matter even if he is Muslim?

Yeesssh

Posted 9/29/08 12:31 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

Posted by donegal419

Posted by MrsProfessor

Obama is not farther ahead in the polls because there are still a lot of people out there who won't vote for him because he's black, IMO.




Sadly, I agree with this to a degree. many people don't see beyond his color... and that goes for both black and white voters.

Also, I believe that Obama is not farther ahead in the polls after two abyssmal Republican terms is because is EXTREMELY liberal, and many independent voters or "conservative democrats" think he is just way too left.



I think alot of people find him too far left. My mother was going to vote for HIllary, but she said that she found Obama too far left for her liking. She probably going to vote for McCain b/c of the experience level. He is really liberal and for alot of Republicans who would have been able to stomach a moderate Democrat, he is too left for them to handle.

Posted 9/29/08 12:55 PM
 

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Re: WSJ Op-Ed Piece re: McCain and Obama

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I dunno about palin not hurting McCains campaign... did you hear her opinion on the current financial crisis?

cafferty's view of palin's commentary on the economy


tell me it didn't remind you of another coherent interview you may have seen in the past....
mmm, deep thoughts on education


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