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ChrisDee
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Question for elementary school teachers
Do you grade/check/correct the childrens homework?
What about classwork. Is it checked by YOU for accuracy?
I just found out that DD has to correct all her own work. The teacher reviews the answers outloud by asking students to share their answers. It is then the childs responsibility to correct thier own. I assumed when there was a check mark at the top of the page it was checked by the teachers. DD just had a test that we studied a lot for and she got 2 wrong. When I looked at it, I thought he answers were correct because it was how we studied them. Then she tells me how they check the work and that sometimes she can't keep up and can't write fast enough. She knew some were wrong but was afraid to tell me I am pretty surprised by this. They check all their own classwork and homework, they grade eachothers spelling tests and the aide grades all other tests(as per the teacher). Bare minimun I think he should send the kids home with a correct answer key after if he does not want to take the time to correct it. I usually check all her homework, but not her classwork.
ETA: she is in 4th grade
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kgs11
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
i check a lot of my students work myself but i only have 16 kids. i go over the math hw orally and they check their own. i grade all tests and spot check hw and independent practice.
i still spend close to 2 hours a day grading. if teachers graded ALL the work the kids did, they would never get around to teaching.
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ChrisDee
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by kgs11
i check a lot of my students work myself but i only have 16 kids. i go over the math hw orally and they check their own. i grade all tests and spot check hw and independent practice.
i still spend close to 2 hours a day grading. if teachers graded ALL the work the kids did, they would never get around to teaching.
In your honest opinion, does it sound like the norm that this teacher checks none of the work. It is either the student or the aide(she grades the tests). Also he is not checking or giving the answer key to what he calls "study guides" they are usually 2-3 pages or social studies or science. The answers are mostly sentences(between 1-3 of them) each and not easy for a 4th grader to check and correct if going over orally. If you got the answer wrong you would have to erase and rewrite between 1-3 sentences per question. The correct answer is also being given by a child. Which again, can be hard to follow, no?
This was not the norm in k-3.
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lisa0807
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
My son is in 5th grade and he also checks his own homework. They go over it as a class and he has to make the corrections if he does it at all. The teacher walks the room to make sure that the homework was done, but doesn't individually correct each homework.
Unless I know the answers to his homework it is very hard to study from which is quite frustrating.
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ChrisDee
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by lisa0807
My son is in 5th grade and he also checks his own homework. They go over it as a class and he has to make the corrections if he does it at all. The teacher walks the room to make sure that the homework was done, but doesn't individually correct each homework.
Unless I know the answers to his homework it is very hard to study from which is quite frustrating.
Yeah, it is not just the homework, it is the "study guides" he gives them. They are suppose to study from them but they are not corrected by him. I would be happy if he just printed out an answer key and sent it home, so I was certain it was accurate.
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kgs11
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
no. imho i do not think it is normal that she doesnt grade ANY of the work. how does she know what to work on with each individual kid? how does she identify trends and patterns within her class? how does she know what to reteach??
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I just wrote a long reply and it got erased...
Short form....
I am a 3rd grade teacher, and I find it perfectly acceptable to have the kids check their work aloud. If they have trouble or don't understand, they can privately let the teacher know. If the teacher is going too fast, your child needs to speak up. If your child is not paying attention...well, they need to get back on track.
The teacher probably does this to save classroom time for instruction. If he/she had to individually grade all classwork and homework throughout the day, there would be no time to teach. Which would you prefer? Them have time to teach or your child reading the textbook on their own so the teacher can grade everything?
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Just wondering how you know your child is grading/checking EVERYTHING done in the classroom and that the aide grades everything else?
There are PLENTY of things I spend hours grading that I don't send home and the parents would never even realize. For example, I have pre and post tests for every new theme in our reading program. The kids are not told to study for them. It is a tool for me to measure what they know and learned throughout the theme. The grade for this is not reflected in their report cards. It is just a piece of data I use. It's never returned to the kids.
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ChrisDee
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by WishingforBaby
Just wondering how you know your child is grading/checking EVERYTHING done in the classroom and that the aide grades everything else?
There are PLENTY of things I spend hours grading that I don't send home and the parents would never even realize. For example, I have pre and post tests for every new theme in our reading program. The kids are not told to study for them. It is a tool for me to measure what they know and learned throughout the theme. The grade for this is not reflected in their report cards. It is just a piece of data I use. It's never returned to the kids.
I asked the teacher and he told me. It is an inclusion class which is why there is an aide in there. He said he utilizes her to grade thing so he can do other things. It is just such a big change from last year.
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ChrisDee
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by ChrisDee
Posted by WishingforBaby
Just wondering how you know your child is grading/checking EVERYTHING done in the classroom and that the aide grades everything else?
There are PLENTY of things I spend hours grading that I don't send home and the parents would never even realize. For example, I have pre and post tests for every new theme in our reading program. The kids are not told to study for them. It is a tool for me to measure what they know and learned throughout the theme. The grade for this is not reflected in their report cards. It is just a piece of data I use. It's never returned to the kids.
I asked the teacher and he told me. It is an inclusion class which is why there is an aide in there. He said he utilizes her to grade thing so he can do other things. It is just such a big change from last year.
I do not even have an issue that he does not grade anything but I wish he would send an answer key home. The aide could copy it for him and send it home. I don't think it would be a lot of work for him. I am just trying to help my daughter who happens to be a very good student(stuggles in math a bit). I kinda feel like if she is lagging behind with some of these things that others have to really be struggling.
I wasn't sure if it was the norm.
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Did you inquire about getting an answer key? If a parent asked me I would provide one.
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sarahbelle
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by Moehick
Did you inquire about getting an answer key? If a parent asked me I would provide one.
I would give the key as well. It's a very reasonable request.
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by sarahbelle
Posted by Moehick
Did you inquire about getting an answer key? If a parent asked me I would provide one.
I would give the key as well. It's a very reasonable request.
I did not ask about a key but I will. It seems reasonable to me, but I have been wrong about that before
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josie919
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
I don't understand why you think it's not appropriate for the aide to be grading things for him? She's an adult. I'm sure she has an answer key to follow. What's the difference if the aide or the teacher checks it?
Im not a teacher, but I do work in an elementary school and it is very common for 3rd/4th/5th graders to grade their own homework/classwork.
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by josie919
I don't understand why you think it's not appropriate for the aide to be grading things for him? She's an adult. I'm sure she has an answer key to follow. What's the difference if the aide or the teacher checks it?
Im not a teacher, but I do work in an elementary school and it is very common for 3rd/4th/5th graders to grade their own homework/classwork.
I said above that I DID NOT have an issue with the aide grading the tests. I just thought it was surprising that he did not grade ANY tests/classwork/homework. AGAIN, he only has an aide because it is inclusion. The 3 other teachers in that grade do not have an aide. Obviously, having the help of the aide gives him more time to work on other things that will benefit my child. I am good with that. I never knew that she was checking her own work that we were using as a study guide. These are 3 pages long. Alot of the questions are answered in 2-3 sentence long answers. So you could see that a child could get lost in correcting a wrong answer if they do not write fast enough. KWIM? It has never been an issue because DD does well. It only came up when I was looking over a test she brought home that I believed had a correct answer that was marked wrong. I knew we studied that as the correct answer. Turns out her study guide was not correct.
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by WishingforBaby
I just wrote a long reply and it got erased...
Short form....
I am a 3rd grade teacher, and I find it perfectly acceptable to have the kids check their work aloud. If they have trouble or don't understand, they can privately let the teacher know. If the teacher is going too fast, your child needs to speak up. If your child is not paying attention...well, they need to get back on track.
The teacher probably does this to save classroom time for instruction. If he/she had to individually grade all classwork and homework throughout the day, there would be no time to teach. Which would you prefer? Them have time to teach or your child reading the textbook on their own so the teacher can grade everything?
ITA with this, word for word.
I am a 3rd grade teacher for the first time this year, and I run the class pretty much the same way as I did when I taught 5th grade. I typically put the homework page up on the document camera and as the kids read off the answers, I fill them in on the page. This way, they both hear and see the answers.
I only have 16 kids in my class as well, but the amount of curriculum we are expected to cover during the course of a year is astronomical. Colleagues of mine collect the homework, correct it, and give it back the next day...I don't find that to be useful at all. They need to be able to see immediately where they made their mistakes, and how. I'm positive that your DD has the option of speaking up if something is confusing, or if she got something wrong and doesn't understand why. Even if I am short on time, I never discount a child who needs help understanding something. I'll either review it as a whole class and ask students to share the strategy they used to solve the problem, or I'll pull a small group aside as the rest of the class gets started on their task for the day.
Sorry, that was a novel. But yes, in 4th grade, I feel it's totally acceptable for the homework to be checked by the students. And it holds THEM responsible for a) paying attention and b) speaking up when there is something they don't understand.
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
For tests, I fully check them myself. I do not want the children seeing the grades of another.
For homework, I walk around and spot check (meaning I am looking for 3 particular answers and assess who needs help that way).
For in class work, we go over the answers together and the children MUST check their own work. I walk around and check for completion while they check for accuracy.
I teach 1st.
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by MrsRivera
Posted by WishingforBaby
I just wrote a long reply and it got erased...
Short form....
I am a 3rd grade teacher, and I find it perfectly acceptable to have the kids check their work aloud. If they have trouble or don't understand, they can privately let the teacher know. If the teacher is going too fast, your child needs to speak up. If your child is not paying attention...well, they need to get back on track.
The teacher probably does this to save classroom time for instruction. If he/she had to individually grade all classwork and homework throughout the day, there would be no time to teach. Which would you prefer? Them have time to teach or your child reading the textbook on their own so the teacher can grade everything?
ITA with this, word for word.
I am a 3rd grade teacher for the first time this year, and I run the class pretty much the same way as I did when I taught 5th grade. I typically put the homework page up on the document camera and as the kids read off the answers, I fill them in on the page. This way, they both hear and see the answers.
I only have 16 kids in my class as well, but the amount of curriculum we are expected to cover during the course of a year is astronomical. Colleagues of mine collect the homework, correct it, and give it back the next day...I don't find that to be useful at all. They need to be able to see immediately where they made their mistakes, and how. I'm positive that your DD has the option of speaking up if something is confusing, or if she got something wrong and doesn't understand why. Even if I am short on time, I never discount a child who needs help understanding something. I'll either review it as a whole class and ask students to share the strategy they used to solve the problem, or I'll pull a small group aside as the rest of the class gets started on their task for the day.
Sorry, that was a novel. But yes, in 4th grade, I feel it's totally acceptable for the homework to be checked by the students. And it holds THEM responsible for a) paying attention and b) speaking up when there is something they don't understand.
I think that putting it up on the smartboard would be a great idea and easier to follow. In her class the teacher asks for volunteers to orally share an answer with the class. I agree with the whole see it, say it thing I would feel like a pushy jerk to suggest anything like this to him. I would not want him to think that I was saying that I know better. I am not a teacher. She does have the "right" to speak up but she is a VERY self consious child who does not like admitting that she does not "get" something. She was bullied REALLY bad in Kindergarten by a mean boy and it has had lasting effects. We are working on it. Like I said, It hasn't been a big deal for her because she does well. I was just surprised in the big change from prior years and the fact that it is inclusion and there are kids that struggle.Thanks for your answer. I appreciate it.
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by ChrisDee
Posted by MrsRivera
Posted by WishingforBaby
I just wrote a long reply and it got erased...
Short form....
I am a 3rd grade teacher, and I find it perfectly acceptable to have the kids check their work aloud. If they have trouble or don't understand, they can privately let the teacher know. If the teacher is going too fast, your child needs to speak up. If your child is not paying attention...well, they need to get back on track.
The teacher probably does this to save classroom time for instruction. If he/she had to individually grade all classwork and homework throughout the day, there would be no time to teach. Which would you prefer? Them have time to teach or your child reading the textbook on their own so the teacher can grade everything?
ITA with this, word for word.
I am a 3rd grade teacher for the first time this year, and I run the class pretty much the same way as I did when I taught 5th grade. I typically put the homework page up on the document camera and as the kids read off the answers, I fill them in on the page. This way, they both hear and see the answers.
I only have 16 kids in my class as well, but the amount of curriculum we are expected to cover during the course of a year is astronomical. Colleagues of mine collect the homework, correct it, and give it back the next day...I don't find that to be useful at all. They need to be able to see immediately where they made their mistakes, and how. I'm positive that your DD has the option of speaking up if something is confusing, or if she got something wrong and doesn't understand why. Even if I am short on time, I never discount a child who needs help understanding something. I'll either review it as a whole class and ask students to share the strategy they used to solve the problem, or I'll pull a small group aside as the rest of the class gets started on their task for the day.
Sorry, that was a novel. But yes, in 4th grade, I feel it's totally acceptable for the homework to be checked by the students. And it holds THEM responsible for a) paying attention and b) speaking up when there is something they don't understand.
I think that putting it up on the smartboard would be a great idea and easier to follow. In her class the teacher asks for volunteers to orally share an answer with the class. I agree with the whole see it, say it thing I would feel like a pushy jerk to suggest anything like this to him. I would not want him to think that I was saying that I know better. I am not a teacher. She does have the "right" to speak up but she is a VERY self consious child who does not like admitting that she does not "get" something. She was bullied REALLY bad in Kindergarten by a mean boy and it has had lasting effects. We are working on it. Like I said, It hasn't been a big deal for her because she does well. I was just surprised in the big change from prior years and the fact that it is inclusion and there are kids that struggle.Thanks for your answer. I appreciate it.
If she is afraid to speak up, then you should DEFINITELY say something to the teacher. Does the teacher have a smartboard? If so, you might say something like, "My daughter is a very visual person, and I think it would be extremely helpful if she could see the question at the same time that you're reviewing it". Teachers can sometimes feel attacked if you ask them to do anything "extra", but putting the page up on the board for everyone to see doesn't take any extra effort.
In the end, YOU are the best advocate for your child (as a mom, I can now see the other side of the issue) so I wouldn't hesitate to say something!
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Re: Question for elementary school teachers
Posted by MrsRivera
Posted by ChrisDee
Posted by MrsRivera
Posted by WishingforBaby
I just wrote a long reply and it got erased...
Short form....
I am a 3rd grade teacher, and I find it perfectly acceptable to have the kids check their work aloud. If they have trouble or don't understand, they can privately let the teacher know. If the teacher is going too fast, your child needs to speak up. If your child is not paying attention...well, they need to get back on track.
The teacher probably does this to save classroom time for instruction. If he/she had to individually grade all classwork and homework throughout the day, there would be no time to teach. Which would you prefer? Them have time to teach or your child reading the textbook on their own so the teacher can grade everything?
ITA with this, word for word.
I am a 3rd grade teacher for the first time this year, and I run the class pretty much the same way as I did when I taught 5th grade. I typically put the homework page up on the document camera and as the kids read off the answers, I fill them in on the page. This way, they both hear and see the answers.
I only have 16 kids in my class as well, but the amount of curriculum we are expected to cover during the course of a year is astronomical. Colleagues of mine collect the homework, correct it, and give it back the next day...I don't find that to be useful at all. They need to be able to see immediately where they made their mistakes, and how. I'm positive that your DD has the option of speaking up if something is confusing, or if she got something wrong and doesn't understand why. Even if I am short on time, I never discount a child who needs help understanding something. I'll either review it as a whole class and ask students to share the strategy they used to solve the problem, or I'll pull a small group aside as the rest of the class gets started on their task for the day.
Sorry, that was a novel. But yes, in 4th grade, I feel it's totally acceptable for the homework to be checked by the students. And it holds THEM responsible for a) paying attention and b) speaking up when there is something they don't understand.
I think that putting it up on the smartboard would be a great idea and easier to follow. In her class the teacher asks for volunteers to orally share an answer with the class. I agree with the whole see it, say it thing I would feel like a pushy jerk to suggest anything like this to him. I would not want him to think that I was saying that I know better. I am not a teacher. She does have the "right" to speak up but she is a VERY self consious child who does not like admitting that she does not "get" something. She was bullied REALLY bad in Kindergarten by a mean boy and it has had lasting effects. We are working on it. Like I said, It hasn't been a big deal for her because she does well. I was just surprised in the big change from prior years and the fact that it is inclusion and there are kids that struggle.Thanks for your answer. I appreciate it.
If she is afraid to speak up, then you should DEFINITELY say something to the teacher. Does the teacher have a smartboard? If so, you might say something like, "My daughter is a very visual person, and I think it would be extremely helpful if she could see the question at the same time that you're reviewing it". Teachers can sometimes feel attacked if you ask them to do anything "extra", but putting the page up on the board for everyone to see doesn't take any extra effort.
In the end, YOU are the best advocate for your child (as a mom, I can now see the other side of the issue) so I wouldn't hesitate to say something!
Thank you for your response. I had a meeting with the teacher and DD yesterday. He is not going to put it on the smartboard. He was very supportive about her issues and tried to make her feel comfortable asking for him to repeat or slowdown(although I know she wont) He is going to allow her to bring home the text book so at least I can check her answers. The books are not normally sent home unless it is for some specific task. Thanks again.
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