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PrincessP
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What is this?
DD came home from K today and I was going through her folder. Someone has to make sense of this for me...
At the diner, you can eat.... CIKNUNNG
At the diner, you can eat....PNKS
At the diner, you can eat ....PDNG
At the diner, you can eat .....WFL
At the diner you can eat..... ICKRM
I figured that the first is chicken nuggets, then pancakes, then pudding, then waffles, then ice cream.
This page has a big star at the top.
Can someone explain what this is and why it is considered perfect?
Message edited 11/18/2011 5:42:22 PM.
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twicethefun
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Re: What is this?
Because she is in kindergarten and sounded out all those words....kudos to her! :)
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| Posted 11/18/11 5:56 PM |
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nrthshgrl
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Re: What is this?
I'm shaking my head because I knew exactly how to read it.
In kindergarten, they get full credit for learning the sounds of words.
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| Posted 11/18/11 8:10 PM |
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justthe4ofus
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Re: What is this?
It's called developmental spelling. I HATE IT!!!!!!!!! As a middle school teacher it drives me up a wall, because if not corrected early on they continue this all the way up. That being said I see developmental spelling in 1st grade and more concentration on the combination sounds to help get rid of this.
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| Posted 11/18/11 8:48 PM |
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PrincessP
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Re: What is this?
Wow. OK, so when does this get corrected? This reminds me of teenagers writing on facebook...LOL
"Wuzzz up"...haha
I agree that its good to sound out the words but I am not sure that I think its helpful to learn to misspell
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| Posted 11/19/11 1:04 AM |
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Bops
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Re: What is this?
They still do it in DS's 1st grade as well....
We are only to correct them when it is words they have previously learned and should now know (spelling words, sight words etc)
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| Posted 11/19/11 9:32 AM |
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BargainMama
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Re: What is this?
I don't ever recall this approach with my older child. I have to say, I think it's a little silly, but I'm not a teacher.
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| Posted 11/19/11 10:00 AM |
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fdnywife
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Re: What is this?
Posted by PrincessP
DD came home from K today and I was going through her folder. Someone has to make sense of this for me...
At the diner, you can eat.... CIKNUNNG
At the diner, you can eat....PNKS
At the diner, you can eat ....PDNG
At the diner, you can eat .....WFL
At the diner you can eat..... ICKRM
I figured that the first is chicken nuggets, then pancakes, then pudding, then waffles, then ice cream.
This page has a big star at the top.
Can someone explain what this is and why it is considered perfect?
Aww thats so cute. They often dont correct them in the beginning of Kindergarten. She is associating the letters with the sounds she hears when she says the words. IMO she is doing great. Im not sure what the first word is, but the others are pumpkins, pudding, waffle and ice cream? Adorable. I have saved all of these to show my kids when they get older :)
BTW I covered a first grade class the other day and they have a folder. When they want to write a word and knew they didnt know how to spell it they came up to me and asked me. It was a great idea. They had a bunch of words in their folder that they all sat with (in alphabetical order) when writing :)
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| Posted 11/19/11 10:33 AM |
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PrincessP
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Re: What is this?
Posted by fdnywife
Posted by PrincessP
DD came home from K today and I was going through her folder. Someone has to make sense of this for me...
At the diner, you can eat.... CIKNUNNG
At the diner, you can eat....PNKS
At the diner, you can eat ....PDNG
At the diner, you can eat .....WFL
At the diner you can eat..... ICKRM
I figured that the first is chicken nuggets, then pancakes, then pudding, then waffles, then ice cream.
This page has a big star at the top.
Can someone explain what this is and why it is considered perfect?
Aww thats so cute. They often dont correct them in the beginning of Kindergarten. She is associating the letters with the sounds she hears when she says the words. IMO she is doing great. Im not sure what the first word is, but the others are pumpkins, pudding, waffle and ice cream? Adorable. I have saved all of these to show my kids when they get older :)
How could you not get the first one? Clearly it is chicken nuggets...
Oh and number two is pancakes not pumpkins. I think silly me forgot she put 2 K's.
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| Posted 11/19/11 10:40 AM |
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fdnywife
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Re: What is this?
Posted by PrincessP
How could you not get the first one? Clearly it is chicken nuggets...
Oh and number two is pancakes not pumpkins. I think silly me forgot she put 2 K's.
How cute :) I was thinking pumpkin - yuck! LOL Pancakes are much better! My sons in kindergarten too BTW :)
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| Posted 11/19/11 10:44 AM |
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GoldenRod
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Re: What is this?
Posted by justthe4ofus
It's called developmental spelling. I HATE IT!!!!!!!!! As a middle school teacher it drives me up a wall, because if not corrected early on they continue this all the way up. That being said I see developmental spelling in 1st grade and more concentration on the combination sounds to help get rid of this.
Both DC hated this as well. DS hated it in K 3 years ago, and DD hates it in K now. They know that it's spelled wrong, and they want to spell it correctly, and will get upset if they can't get the correct spelling.
DS is much better at spelling in 3rd grade than most of his classmates who didn't worry about correct spelling.
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| Posted 11/19/11 1:14 PM |
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PrincessP
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Posted by GoldenRod
Posted by justthe4ofus
It's called developmental spelling. I HATE IT!!!!!!!!! As a middle school teacher it drives me up a wall, because if not corrected early on they continue this all the way up. That being said I see developmental spelling in 1st grade and more concentration on the combination sounds to help get rid of this.
Both DC hated this as well. DS hated it in K 3 years ago, and DD hates it in K now. They know that it's spelled wrong, and they want to spell it correctly, and will get upset if they can't get the correct spelling.
DS is much better at spelling in 3rd grade than most of his classmates who didn't worry about correct spelling.
I feel like I am on candid camera. I seriously dont undersatnd why a place of education would want the kids to write like this without correcting it. I agree that its "cute" but not cute enough to live in the world we live in. The whole thing is odd to me.
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| Posted 11/19/11 6:13 PM |
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justthe4ofus
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Re: What is this?
An elementary teacher or a reading specialist would have to tell you but from what I see at the upper level (the results) is that they tried this whole language crap for years and it doesn't work! The kids cannot sound out anything and they have no sense of the phonetics of the language and no word attack. This is an attempt to correct it because they are sounding out the sounds. In 1st grade my DD is learning 'bonus letters' and other combination sounds so that she learns to spell better.
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| Posted 11/19/11 8:54 PM |
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twicethefun
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Re: What is this?
OK, well in kindergarten students need to learn to write...get their ideas onto paper and build their self confidence. If you were to mark up every word that a kindergartener wrote they won't get much on paper. They won't learn to organize their ideas or create a sentence. They will be stuck with only the words they can spell and for some of them...that might be none. Spelling is important, but so is sentence structure, organization of ideas, story structure. This gives the students an opportunity to start working on these concepts much earlier. Its teaching them to THINK.
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| Posted 11/20/11 8:05 AM |
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PrincessP
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Re: What is this?
Posted by twicethefun
OK, well in kindergarten students need to learn to write...get their ideas onto paper and build their self confidence. If you were to mark up every word that a kindergartener wrote they won't get much on paper. They won't learn to organize their ideas or create a sentence. They will be stuck with only the words they can spell and for some of them...that might be none. Spelling is important, but so is sentence structure, organization of ideas, story structure. This gives the students an opportunity to start working on these concepts much earlier. Its teaching them to THINK.
I am not sure that I agree. We taught dd how to spell words from the start. Obviously not chicken nuggets but an example would be "CAT" she knows that Cat starts with a "c" not a K. She knows that the K also has the "KA" sound but doesnt use a "K" in cat bc we taught her that "CAT" is C-A-T. I dont have an issue with them sounding out words but I dont think its a bad idea to tell them to sound it out and when they choose the "K" instead of the "C" state that they are right it could be a "K" but this time its a "C". To me it doesnt lower self confidence but rather enhances education.
They dont do this in math I hope. I am not going to find out that 8x8=144 am I???
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| Posted 11/20/11 9:19 AM |
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twicethefun
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I totally agree, but in a classroom with twenty students, you don't know what every student letter every student has chosen until they are already on their way. Most teachers do show the proper way to write words on the paper. Additionally, we do not want 20 students asking the teacher what letter? for every word written.
And by the way...kids do you estimation in mathematics....yes they learn the correct way, but they also learn to estimate.
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| Posted 11/20/11 8:18 PM |
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Porrruss
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Re: What is this?
Developmental reading is more age appropriate. In K it's most important for them to learn sound-letter recognition and blending of sounds. Strong phonological awareness=more fluent reading= better reading comprehension later on.
Spelling is really the least important skill at this age.
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| Posted 11/20/11 8:27 PM |
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thisisme
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Re: What is this?
Well, look at it this way: you were able to tell what it says, right? So I'd say she's moving in the right direction! The teacher will begin to teach them to stretch the words out by using the vowel sounds. It won't (or shouldn't) always be child-led spelling. It's kind of like telling a kid to sound it out, but this is like the step before that. Does that make sense?
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| Posted 11/21/11 7:35 PM |
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Erica
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Posted by PrincessP
We taught dd how to spell words from the start. Obviously not chicken nuggets but an example would be "CAT" she knows that Cat starts with a "c" not a K. She knows that the K also has the "KA" sound but doesnt use a "K" in cat bc we taught her that "CAT" is C-A-T. I dont have an issue with them sounding out words but I dont think its a bad idea to tell them to sound it out and when they choose the "K" instead of the "C" state that they are right it could be a "K" but this time its a "C". To me it doesnt lower self confidence but rather enhances education.
They dont do this in math I hope. I am not going to find out that 8x8=144 am I???
You are comparing simple and more complicating words. She probably hasn't ever seen or been taught those words, so she wrote what she heard. Cat is a sight word for her and therefore should be spelled correctly.
Also, the assignment seems to be looking for the answers to questions, not how to spell them. She answered the questions correctly (albeit spelled wrong), therefore got a star. With the exception of English/ELA tests, spelling isn't usually considered in scoring.
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| Posted 11/22/11 6:33 PM |
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PrincessP
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Posted by PrincessP
We taught dd how to spell words from the start. Obviously not chicken nuggets but an example would be "CAT" she knows that Cat starts with a "c" not a K. She knows that the K also has the "KA" sound but doesnt use a "K" in cat bc we taught her that "CAT" is C-A-T. I dont have an issue with them sounding out words but I dont think its a bad idea to tell them to sound it out and when they choose the "K" instead of the "C" state that they are right it could be a "K" but this time its a "C". To me it doesnt lower self confidence but rather enhances education.
They dont do this in math I hope. I am not going to find out that 8x8=144 am I???
You are comparing simple and more complicating words. She probably hasn't ever seen or been taught those words, so she wrote what she heard. Cat is a sight word for her and therefore should be spelled correctly.
Also, the assignment seems to be looking for the answers to questions, not how to spell them. She answered the questions correctly (albeit spelled wrong), therefore got a star. With the exception of English/ELA tests, spelling isn't usually considered in scoring.
I am positive that they were looking for kindergarten writing and not answering the question. They were looking to see if the kids were able to sound out the word and write the letters. Not necessarily correctly ( as we can see) but rather seeing if they can sound it out. This is what the teacher told me.
*Though I am sure you are right. If they asked what she ate at a diner and she answered an ice skate, the teacher might be puzzled and I would be much more concerned then just her spelling.
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