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SweetCin
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At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
Sorry for my ignorant question; but at what point do they deem it necessary for a child to be included in an inclusive preschool program, etc?
Is it if they feel he would fare better in that setting or is it something they reserve for children needing extensive hours of OT/PT/speech, etc?
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Posted 12/16/11 9:08 PM  |
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iluvmynutty
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
It depends on a few factors. If the child's cognitive scores are low and they need small group or 1-on-1 instruction to learn then they may feel that a special ed class is warranted. Or if the child receives multiple services such as OT, PT, ST, social skills/play therapy and appears to be globally delayed then a special ed program may be need. If a child can function in a regular preschool/daycare setting then its best for them to stay with typical developing peers in the regular ed environment while receiving itinerant services.
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| Posted 12/17/11 5:17 AM |
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Erica
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
My son went into a half day integrated program after his SLP and OT spoke about his regression over school breaks at his CPSE.
(he is not on the spectrum, we are OHI, if that makes a difference)
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| Posted 12/18/11 9:36 PM |
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smdl
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
He may not need to be in an inclusion setting if his delays are only OT/PT/Feeding/Speech. He could go into a regular preschool and get a SEIT to help him with the tasks. Then those extra services can be done either at the school OR at home. Depends how it would interupt the school.
In general, if your child needs more than 1/2 of school time with a SEIT, they suggest a different setting for your child.
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| Posted 12/19/11 7:41 AM |
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Pumpkin
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
Depending on what he needs it may be easier for him to go to school to get his services. It really depends on what he needs. I am a big supporter of special needs preschools. I think they really help the child and the parents a lot.
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| Posted 12/19/11 11:32 AM |
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lvdolphins
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
Posted by Pumpkin
Depending on what he needs it may be easier for him to go to school to get his services. It really depends on what he needs. I am a big supporter of special needs preschools. I think they really help the child and the parents a lot.
DS goes to a Developmental Pre-K. He's been going since he's 27 months old.
We moved his services to school (during EI) and it was so much easier then having them in the home.
If DD were walking, she would have started school months ago and I would have split her services between home and school. We are holding off until the summer program or next sept, which, by then, EI is over, so, after the holidays, we're getting the ball rolling with transition.
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| Posted 12/19/11 1:00 PM |
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Erica
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
I just wanted to mention that ds gets 1:30 min ind speech; 1:30 group speech; 2:30 OT; and had 2:60 min SEIT a week when they offered us the program. They dropped the SEIT from his services when he went to the integrated class.
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| Posted 12/20/11 1:58 PM |
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NASP09
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
Some schools have the policy that if the child is of Average range cognitive functioing, regardless if they need OT, PT, Speech etc, and could function in a regular setting with a little extra support, then they are appropriate for an Inclusion class, since that is typically the least restrictive environment within a Special Education preschool. To move them to a more restrictive setting (Self- contained class) it needs to be proven with either cognitive scores or data collection that they require more support to function or learn. Or if they demonstrate limited awareness for their own safety and it would be dangerous to have them in a larger setting they might be considered for a Self-Contained setting.
Message edited 12/23/2011 1:58:21 PM.
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| Posted 12/23/11 1:53 PM |
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TaraHutch
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
This is a great question, thanks for asking. Riley is not diagnosed with anything (too young, and we haven't seen a developmental pediatrician yet), but she has sensory seeking issues and is seeing an OT for weekly visits. Her OT suggested that when she goes to preschool that she should be in a specialized class (regular daycare is not going well with lots of behavioral issues  ). I know she needs the extra attention to stay on task, but I was concerned with how this was structured.
Hope you don't mind me hijacking...
Even with inclusion type programs, they need to be in a special school that offers this, right? She can't continue to go to the same school she's at and bring someone in? She was denied services by EI. Thanks
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| Posted 12/30/11 9:06 AM |
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NASP09
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
Posted by TaraHutch
This is a great question, thanks for asking. Riley is not diagnosed with anything (too young, and we haven't seen a developmental pediatrician yet), but she has sensory seeking issues and is seeing an OT for weekly visits. Her OT suggested that when she goes to preschool that she should be in a specialized class (regular daycare is not going well with lots of behavioral issues ). I know she needs the extra attention to stay on task, but I was concerned with how this was structured.
Hope you don't mind me hijacking...
Even with inclusion type programs, they need to be in a special school that offers this, right? She can't continue to go to the same school she's at and bring someone in? She was denied services by EI. Thanks
If she was already denied services by EI, then I believe it would be up to the day care to hire someone to provide the extra attention, which I doubt they would be willing to do. So, unless Im misunderstanding, yes, it would have to be at a preschool that provides Inclusion classes.
ALso, I want to add that some day cares (based on my experience, the majority of day cares, especially "chain" day cares) hire teachers with limited experience, or who are in the process of completing their education so they dont have to pay them as much as certified teachers (think - high school grads or college students). There is a reason there is a high staff turnover at these places. As soon as the employees get a teaching degree - they look for a higher paying job! Of course the teachers have diffiuclt times dealing with challenging children because they dont have the experience or education needed to best help the kids. Im not knocking regular day cares, but you have to take them for what they are.
Whereas Inclusion classes have certified teachers with knowledge, if not experience, typically 1 regular ed teacher and 1 special ed teacher, and sometimes a classroom aide.
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| Posted 12/30/11 10:55 AM |
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TaraHutch
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
thanks so much!
How does one find out about inclusion services? Riley's daycare is a chain, and you described it to a tee.
How does one find out about inclusion programs? I'm googling and finding nothing! I live in NJ.
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| Posted 12/30/11 11:40 AM |
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Erica
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Re: At what point do they suggest inclusion, etc. preschool?
We got a list of schools from our Sd. I bet you can call up the pupil personnel office of your district and ask them for a resource.
Integrated classes have typical kids and since you didn't qualify for ei, dc would be typical.
Our school gets typical kids from upk, but other schools take from neighborhood or staff members children.
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| Posted 12/30/11 7:07 PM |
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