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GoldenRod
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North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
http://www.cnn.com/2012/05/09/politics/north-carolina-marriage/index.html?hpt=hp_c1
(CNN) -- A day after North Carolina became the latest state to approve a constitutional amendment defining marriage as solely between a man and a woman, opponents of the referendum begin Wednesday to explore their next options.
North Carolina voted Tuesday to outlaw same-sex marriage, which was already prohibited in the state. Supporters pushed for the constitutional amendment, arguing that it is needed to ward off future legal challenges.
"It is a very sad day in North Carolina," said Tori Taylor, 23, a Charlotte resident who voted against the amendment. "There were a lot of college students, young professionals who came out to vote. We have gay friends. A lot of us are integrated to that culture. Do you think your friends should have the same rights? It's black and white. Of course they should."
The North Carolina amendment alters the constitution to say that "marriage between one man and one woman is the only domestic legal union that shall be valid or recognized" in the state.
"It writes discrimination into our state constitution and gives the majority the chance to vote against the minority," said Anne Fawcett Krishnan, 33, of Greensboro.
But Vote for Marriage NC, which supported the amendment, applauded the passage, saying it solidifies the state ban and ensures the definition of marriage does not change.
"We are not anti-gay, we are pro-marriage," said Tami Fitzgerald, chairwoman of the group. "And the point -- the whole point -- is simply that you don't rewrite the nature of God's design for marriage based on the demands of a group of adults."
Experts expressed concerns that the language of the amendment is so vague, it could strip other unmarried couples of some rights as well.
It could affect unmarried couples who live together and bring them unintended consequences on issues such as child custody and the prosecution of domestic violence, said Kathryn Bradley, a law professor at Duke University.
It also strengthens the state's position against same-sex civil unions, often considered a precursor to the marriage issue, Bradley said.
Some municipalities in North Carolina provide benefits to same-sex couples, and those rights could be lost with passage of the amendment, she said.
Opponents of the amendment regroup Wednesday to decide the next course of action, with some planning campaigns in cities across the state this week. The groups acknowledged the loss, but urged supporters to keep fighting.
"We can't change the results of this vote, but we can determine what comes next," said Jasmine Beach-Ferrara, director of Campaign for Southern Equality. "When kids across the state wake up, I want them to know that this story isn't over."
Campaign for Southern Equality said it will launch a "we do campaign to take action" Wednesday, with events planned across various cities all week. Another group, Equality North Carolina, plans to hold a news conference Wednesday to discuss the amedment.
But backers of the amendment said they are not deterred.
"Despite the relentless lawsuits and attempts to marginalize supporters of traditional marriage, a clear majority of the American people have not given up on standing in support of marriage," said Tony Perkins, president of Family Research Council. "But instead, the evidence suggests they want to see it strengthened and preserved for future generations."
Voters approved the amendment by a 61%-39% margin with all counties reporting, according to unofficial returns from the State Board of Elections.
The state House and Senate voted in 2011 to put the amendment before state voters. Both chambers are Republican-controlled for the first time in 140 years.
President Barack Obama said he was "disappointed" by the vote, describing it as discriminatory against gays and lesbians, a spokesman said.
Americans overall are closely split on the issue, according to a recent Gallup survey. About 50% of Americans believe same-sex couples should be allowed to wed -- up considerably from polls in past years. An additional 48% say such marriages should not be legal.
Before Tuesday, 30 states had voted in favor of constitutional amendments that seek to defend traditional definitions of marriage as a heterosexual union.
"Of states without constitutional amendments on marriage, 45% (nine of 20) eventually recognize same-sex marriage, either by direct judicial decree, by legislative action, or by a ruling requiring that same-sex marriages from other states be treated as valid," the National Organization for Marriage, which opposes same-sex marriages, said in a statement. "Among the 30 states with marriage amendments, none have been repealed."
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
This is just so sad in todays world!! It is not fair!
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Ian&EmmesMommy23
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
idiots
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JennZ
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Assholes!
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rkl1130
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
so sad
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Take NC off my list of places I want to live.
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BriBri2u
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Dear North Carolina
Those who deny freedom to others deserve it not for themselves
Signed, Abraham Lincoln
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Posted 5/9/12 9:28 AM |
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nraboni
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
I have a lot of friends that live in NC and so many of them have posted on FB that they are disgusted to live in a state that would pass this law into their constitution.
It just goes to show that it really doesn't matter that it is 2012, people still live their lives assbackwards.
I posted this on FB:
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Posted by nraboni
I posted this on FB: IMAGE
LOVE THIS!!!
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Mrs213
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Ok, so now there's a real reason not to want to live there
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Ridiculous. But I think living in the northeast, we are just so insulated from the rest of the country. We forget that the Bible Belt/Tea Party is alive and well and, in many ways we are the minority......
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
We are disgusted
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racheK
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Posted by 2girlsforme
Ridiculous. But I think living in the northeast, we are just so insulated from the rest of the country. We forget that the Bible Belt/Tea Party is alive and well and, in many ways we are the minority......
I have a number of friends on FB that live in NC and all of that were flabbergasted about the vote as well. But I guess they were part of the 39%.
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poc53
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Haven't like 31 states voted this down? It's Just not the Bible belt.
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
There was already a law on the books already banning it. WHYYYYY this extra push to add it to the constitution?
The bible belt needs to actually read the bible. All of it. Not just the parts that suit them. Leviticus 25:44 says you may own slaves provided they are from a neighboring country. Well hot damn, field trip to Canada anyone? In Genesis, Lot procreated with his daughter after his wife turned to a pillar of salt - this is fleeing Sodom and fn Gomorrah. It happens just a few sentences after they flee - does everyone who uses S&G to support that God doesn't approve of homosexuality sit there and think 'hey, incest is okay?'
The laws of Leviticus, Numbers and Deuteronomy are impossible to follow. However I doubt they can even name ONE of those laws.
I'm so mad. I'm so so mad.
eta: i stole it, thank you
Posted by nraboni
I posted this on FB: IMAGE
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JenniferEver
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
This makes me SO angry, it'snot even funny.
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RocPin
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Posted by racheK
Posted by 2girlsforme
Ridiculous. But I think living in the northeast, we are just so insulated from the rest of the country. We forget that the Bible Belt/Tea Party is alive and well and, in many ways we are the minority......
I have a number of friends on FB that live in NC and all of that were flabbergasted about the vote as well. But I guess they were part of the 39%.
I live 20 minutes from the NC border and have family and friends that live in NC and are in shock and disgusted by the outcome.
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JenniferEver
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Posted by RocPin
Posted by racheK
Posted by 2girlsforme
Ridiculous. But I think living in the northeast, we are just so insulated from the rest of the country. We forget that the Bible Belt/Tea Party is alive and well and, in many ways we are the minority......
I have a number of friends on FB that live in NC and all of that were flabbergasted about the vote as well. But I guess they were part of the 39%.
I live 20 minutes from the NC border and have family and friends that live in NC and are in shock and disgusted by the outcome.
Did they vote?
I read only 20% of registered voters showed up
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RocPin
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Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by RocPin
I live 20 minutes from the NC border and have family and friends that live in NC and are in shock and disgusted by the outcome.
Did they vote?
I read only 20% of registered voters showed up
My in-laws are out of town right now so no and Im not sure about my friends.
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Just a comment. NC isnt all 61% of those who voted. It is a nice state with nice people. Don't bash them all due to the results of this vote.
I think voting is VERY important. It is the ONLY way we can truly express what we feel is just. If 100% of the voters voted and it was still passed by the same margin, then it is still passed. We give each other the oppurtunity to vote the laws we feel are just into our state's constitutions and laws. Its up to us to vote them in or out. We can't blame the whole state for the lack of votes to beat this law down.
Altho I think this law is a little overboard. I still think that if a law is voted in it is in. I think the Healthcare reform is unjust but I didn't even get a chance to vote on that. I hope this wakes EVERYONE up to how important voting really is.
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I'm so angry over this. My friend posted this on his fb this morning and it breaks my heart: "I hate living in a country where I feel unwelcome in a large chunk of it. Just makes me ill and furious."
Luckily he lives here where he and his boyfriend of over 10 years will finally tie the knot in a few weeks! But I can't imagine what he must feel, knowing that such ignorant, hateful people exist.
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2girlsforme
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Posted by JenniferEver
Posted by RocPin
Posted by racheK
Posted by 2girlsforme
Ridiculous. But I think living in the northeast, we are just so insulated from the rest of the country. We forget that the Bible Belt/Tea Party is alive and well and, in many ways we are the minority......
I have a number of friends on FB that live in NC and all of that were flabbergasted about the vote as well. But I guess they were part of the 39%.
I live 20 minutes from the NC border and have family and friends that live in NC and are in shock and disgusted by the outcome.
Did they vote?
I read only 20% of registered voters showed up
I too have friends and family in the south (south carolina, tennessee, and alabama); some of whom are in same sex relationships. My comments are their sentiments. They have, on more than one occassion, expressed to me that "they don't live in new york."
My remarks were not intended to offend, just offer a different perspective.
I do think that regional differences exist. I happen to be employed, as an attorney for a federal agency. My counterparts in the south tell me that prayers are an accepted part of their staff meetings and office gatherings. While this is clearly not representative of the entire south, I do think the Bible Belt is alive and well and comes out to vote.
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nraboni
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Re: North Carolina votes to ban gay marriage in constitution
Just wanted to add two other things some of my friends in NC posted on FB:
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