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BargainMama
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Sachem proves athletics over education
Sports always wins over academics. Sad, happens in my district also. Something like $30k was added in this year for middle school JV scrimmages, but yet many after school academic clubs have been cut since they can't "afford" to pay the teachers to run them. Half day kindergarten wouldn't bother me at all, but I am a sahm.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
If it wasn't for Common Core I wouldn't mind the cut to half time either. But with the new expectations and standards, students will benefit so much from a full day and can easily fall behind without it. As of June 2012, out of 118 LI districts listed on Newsday.com only 10 had half day kindergarten. This includes CI, which just got full day K reinstated.
It is just a shame that Kindergarten is not conisdered mandatory
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Plenty of districts have half day kindergarten. Its not the end of the world. I understand it may make things difficult for workign parents as far as scheduling but as far as education...the kids will be fine.
They will be fine academically for sure but IMO it is really annoying not to have full day Kindergarden. I live in NYC and we have full day, so many people move out to LI FOR the schools specifically so if it were me I would be so angry!
This. When we were looking for our home we specifically looked for a school district that had full day kindergarten. Am I worried my ds will fall behind? No. I am worried how in the heck he will get to school and back and who could possibly watch him until I get home. It's not the end of the world but having a countdown of days before we no longer needed daycare hurts a bit.
The title is misleading. Athletics were not chosen over education. The education is still there and while it sucks for those who have children going into the kindergarten program I totally feel this benefits much more of the district by keeping sports. We still have kindergarten, working parents will just need to find a way for it to work with our schedule.
I would be frustrated if I looked specifically for full day kindergarten because I needed it & then it was taken away. I work in Manhattan & had to pay daycare costs & arrange transportation to 1/2 day kindergarten for both my kids. The rest of the day, they were in kindergarten enrichment, which included extra recess, snack time, some extra help with letters, numbers & some culture activities.
However, I don't think it's fair for the rest of the community to pick up the tab because of my childcare issues.
If you are talking about education impact, I would understand more. But I'm not seeing a huge leap in scores between schools with full day vs 1/2 day.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Seeing as I have 2 DCs to go thru K, and saw just how much DD has learned in full day, I am beyond pissed!
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Posted by nrthshgrl
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Posted by alli3131
Plenty of districts have half day kindergarten. Its not the end of the world. I understand it may make things difficult for workign parents as far as scheduling but as far as education...the kids will be fine.
They will be fine academically for sure but IMO it is really annoying not to have full day Kindergarden. I live in NYC and we have full day, so many people move out to LI FOR the schools specifically so if it were me I would be so angry!
This. When we were looking for our home we specifically looked for a school district that had full day kindergarten. Am I worried my ds will fall behind? No. I am worried how in the heck he will get to school and back and who could possibly watch him until I get home. It's not the end of the world but having a countdown of days before we no longer needed daycare hurts a bit.
The title is misleading. Athletics were not chosen over education. The education is still there and while it sucks for those who have children going into the kindergarten program I totally feel this benefits much more of the district by keeping sports. We still have kindergarten, working parents will just need to find a way for it to work with our schedule.
I would be frustrated if I looked specifically for full day kindergarten because I needed it & then it was taken away. I work in Manhattan & had to pay daycare costs & arrange transportation to 1/2 day kindergarten for both my kids. The rest of the day, they were in kindergarten enrichment, which included extra recess, snack time, some extra help with letters, numbers & some culture activities.
However, I don't think it's fair for the rest of the community to pick up the tab because of my childcare issues.
If you are talking about education impact, I would understand more. But I'm not seeing a huge leap in scores between schools with full day vs 1/2 day.
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The community is "picking up the tab" for lots of things - the sports program. What if your kids don't play sport? You still have to pay. I think it sort of stinks for the parents who moved there b/c they wanted full day kindergarten. The waste of money that occurs in public schools in staggering. My father was a professor at Stony Brook and at our local school district, the budget for the foreign language department for the middle school and high school was more than for SBU. That is a little crazy.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Posted by LeShellem
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by alli3131
Plenty of districts have half day kindergarten. Its not the end of the world. I understand it may make things difficult for workign parents as far as scheduling but as far as education...the kids will be fine.
They will be fine academically for sure but IMO it is really annoying not to have full day Kindergarden. I live in NYC and we have full day, so many people move out to LI FOR the schools specifically so if it were me I would be so angry!
This. When we were looking for our home we specifically looked for a school district that had full day kindergarten. Am I worried my ds will fall behind? No. I am worried how in the heck he will get to school and back and who could possibly watch him until I get home. It's not the end of the world but having a countdown of days before we no longer needed daycare hurts a bit.
The title is misleading. Athletics were not chosen over education. The education is still there and while it sucks for those who have children going into the kindergarten program I totally feel this benefits much more of the district by keeping sports. We still have kindergarten, working parents will just need to find a way for it to work with our schedule.
Like paying for private kindergarten. SCOPE will be available but its not available to all students and will we daycare based and not an enrichment program. Summer(BargainMama) I'm not a fulltime working mom, we have tons of SAHM's here. That's not the issue. Common Core education is..and LeShellem let me tell you the work that these kids are doing in 1st and 2nd grade. You should be worried about academics even more than the inconvenience of half day IMO.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Posted by mrsej
Posted by nrthshgrl
Posted by LeShellem
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by alli3131
Plenty of districts have half day kindergarten. Its not the end of the world. I understand it may make things difficult for workign parents as far as scheduling but as far as education...the kids will be fine.
They will be fine academically for sure but IMO it is really annoying not to have full day Kindergarden. I live in NYC and we have full day, so many people move out to LI FOR the schools specifically so if it were me I would be so angry!
This. When we were looking for our home we specifically looked for a school district that had full day kindergarten. Am I worried my ds will fall behind? No. I am worried how in the heck he will get to school and back and who could possibly watch him until I get home. It's not the end of the world but having a countdown of days before we no longer needed daycare hurts a bit.
The title is misleading. Athletics were not chosen over education. The education is still there and while it sucks for those who have children going into the kindergarten program I totally feel this benefits much more of the district by keeping sports. We still have kindergarten, working parents will just need to find a way for it to work with our schedule.
I would be frustrated if I looked specifically for full day kindergarten because I needed it & then it was taken away. I work in Manhattan & had to pay daycare costs & arrange transportation to 1/2 day kindergarten for both my kids. The rest of the day, they were in kindergarten enrichment, which included extra recess, snack time, some extra help with letters, numbers & some culture activities.
However, I don't think it's fair for the rest of the community to pick up the tab because of my childcare issues.
If you are talking about education impact, I would understand more. But I'm not seeing a huge leap in scores between schools with full day vs 1/2 day.
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The community is "picking up the tab" for lots of things - the sports program. What if your kids don't play sport? You still have to pay. I think it sort of stinks for the parents who moved there b/c they wanted full day kindergarten. The waste of money that occurs in public schools in staggering. My father was a professor at Stony Brook and at our local school district, the budget for the foreign language department for the middle school and high school was more than for SBU. That is a little crazy.
I totally agree. I do not consider expecting full day Kindergarden over the top, hardly a luxury.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
LeShellem let me tell you the work that these kids are doing in 1st and 2nd grade. You should be worried about academics even more than the inconvenience of half day IMO.
It is insane how much more they are doing now. Kindergarten today really is what 1st/2nd grade was to us years ago. They are learning so much at such a quick pace. My neighbor's daughter is enrolled in K now in Sachem and said her teacher even teaches during snack time; there is just so much to cover. Now they have to cram that in to just over 2 hours? There are so many children that will fall behind because of this
eta- ops, quote got messed up... sorry!
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Posted by mrsej
Posted by nrthshgrl
Posted by LeShellem
Posted by DiamondGirl
Posted by alli3131
Plenty of districts have half day kindergarten. Its not the end of the world. I understand it may make things difficult for workign parents as far as scheduling but as far as education...the kids will be fine.
They will be fine academically for sure but IMO it is really annoying not to have full day Kindergarden. I live in NYC and we have full day, so many people move out to LI FOR the schools specifically so if it were me I would be so angry!
This. When we were looking for our home we specifically looked for a school district that had full day kindergarten. Am I worried my ds will fall behind? No. I am worried how in the heck he will get to school and back and who could possibly watch him until I get home. It's not the end of the world but having a countdown of days before we no longer needed daycare hurts a bit.
The title is misleading. Athletics were not chosen over education. The education is still there and while it sucks for those who have children going into the kindergarten program I totally feel this benefits much more of the district by keeping sports. We still have kindergarten, working parents will just need to find a way for it to work with our schedule.
I would be frustrated if I looked specifically for full day kindergarten because I needed it & then it was taken away. I work in Manhattan & had to pay daycare costs & arrange transportation to 1/2 day kindergarten for both my kids. The rest of the day, they were in kindergarten enrichment, which included extra recess, snack time, some extra help with letters, numbers & some culture activities.
However, I don't think it's fair for the rest of the community to pick up the tab because of my childcare issues.
If you are talking about education impact, I would understand more. But I'm not seeing a huge leap in scores between schools with full day vs 1/2 day.
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The community is "picking up the tab" for lots of things - the sports program. What if your kids don't play sport? You still have to pay. I think it sort of stinks for the parents who moved there b/c they wanted full day kindergarten. The waste of money that occurs in public schools in staggering. My father was a professor at Stony Brook and at our local school district, the budget for the foreign language department for the middle school and high school was more than for SBU. That is a little crazy.
I understand being upset because 1/2 day K is a hassle but lets be honest. I don't think people moved to a district for full day K alone. Also, as long as I can remember full day K is always on the chopping block in various districts so people have to think it may go away at anytime. Other than it beign a planning hassle for a group pf parents I don't think it is such a big deal. I have lived in districts with it and without and not once was it ever a consideration when I bought my house.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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LeShellem let me tell you the work that these kids are doing in 1st and 2nd grade. You should be worried about academics even more than the inconvenience of half day IMO.
It is insane how much more they are doing now. Kindergarten today really is what 1st/2nd grade was to us years ago. They are learning so much at such a quick pace. My neighbor's daughter is enrolled in K now in Sachem and said her teacher even teaches during snack time; there is just so much to cover. Now they have to cram that in to just over 2 hours? There are so many children that will fall behind because of this
eta- ops, quote got messed up... sorry!
Oh, I am completely aware of the new curriculum. I totally understand that kindergarten today is like second grade when I went to school. I totally get that. But I think it's a fair balance with keeping sports and still having 1/2 day kindergarten than the alternative. In the scheme of things more kids will benefit from 1/2 day kindergarten and keeping all the sports. For all of us our kids will be in kindergarten for one year. Getting rid of sports will effect many more kids for many years. This helps the most people.
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KarenK122
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Sachem proves athletics over education
Maybe I'm reading the response from the district wrong but what they say is that they are cutting the funding for all sports by 50%. If that is the case, they are not saving sports but putting the financial burden on the parents. What happens if one of the clubs can not raise all the money....the club/sport gets cut. It reads to me almost as a screw you, your going to pay even though you didn't pass the budget. Cutting K should be one of the last things on the list to cut. Getting the foundation for these kids is important and will impact them going into the next years of school. What is going to happen next year when they still in the hole because they spent all the reserves....have no K and then cut sports completely. Things will not get better for any district until the state starts giving more financial aid.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Well , I have a kid heading to kindy next year I would be upset if it were half day. He is in half day now for pre K and it's not enough. 3 hours is not enough time to get anything done. The kids may be behind the other districts that have full day. Sorry to the parents living in the district dealing with this.
K is the foundation, getting used to longer day, eating lunch in school, learning reading and writing etc
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Posted by mrsej
The community is "picking up the tab" for lots of things - the sports program. What if your kids don't play sport? You still have to pay.
Just as an aside comment. I have no chilren, yet pay 20k a year in property tax.
Weather your kids play sports, DONT play sports, or if you dont have kids at all, you pay.
(just an observation, dont want you to think im attacking you)
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Posted by KarenK122
Maybe I'm reading the response from the district wrong but what they say is that they are cutting the funding for all sports by 50%. If that is the case, they are not saving sports but putting the financial burden on the parents. What happens if one of the clubs can not raise all the money....the club/sport gets cut. It reads to me almost as a screw you, your going to pay even though you didn't pass the budget. Cutting K should be one of the last things on the list to cut. Getting the foundation for these kids is important and will impact them going into the next years of school. What is going to happen next year when they still in the hole because they spent all the reserves....have no K and then cut sports completely. Things will not get better for any district until the state starts giving more financial aid.
Sports were not cut at all. Clubs were cut by 50%, but not sports.
I agree that the state needs to do more. They are not providing enough funding. I also don't agree with Common Core education. Especially the fact that it includes kindergarten, so NYS expects these children to meet these standards, but at the same time they are saying that Kindergarten is not mandatory. Kindergarten used to be similar to preschool, but today it is an actual grade level. It is such a vital part of our children's education and should never be on the chopping block in the first place. One of the many issues I have with New York State
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Posted by mrsej
The community is "picking up the tab" for lots of things - the sports program. What if your kids don't play sport? You still have to pay.
Just as an aside comment. I have no chilren, yet pay 20k a year in property tax.
Weather your kids play sports, DONT play sports, or if you dont have kids at all, you pay.
(just an observation, dont want you to think im attacking you)
right - that is my point - she said the community is picking up the tab for full day kindergarten.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Honestly I don't think you could win either way. If they cut the sports programs it would be horrible for those kids as well. Unfortunately not everyone will be happy when they have to make cuts.
True..
As an abused child, sports kept me together. Kept me sane. It also forced my grades to be maintained in order to 'escape' home, I had to have good enough grades to continue to play. From 7th grade up. I certainly couldn't afford any league play. My parents barely allowed me to shuttle to the one summer sports program I got for free -once. No way they'd let me walk the 2mi to school to just disappear for a day and come back home for a month while I was in middle school.
I was lucky to have that one shot and took it. In High school, I found another oppurtunity with a friend to get into a league for summer Volleyball but nothing during the year, ever.
Sports saved my life
Yes, I was in girl scouts, choir, student council, UIL math and science but Sports was a constant.
There was a no win here.
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Posted by Faithx2
Everyone is entitled to their own opinion here. 1/2 day does effect real estate value. With the new common core standards children need to be a totally different place then they did years ago. Listen it is what it is and for many of us it stinks.
I'm in Harborfields and we're half day...have been for as long as I've been a resident (over 12 years) and it doesn't seem to have brought our real estate value down.
My daughter is a product of half day and seems to be doing just fine in 1st grade with common core. I don't feel she was unprepared in any way.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Sports are the reason some kids go to school. It is an unfortunate reality, but true. It motivates some struggling students to attend school and pushes them to do at least some of the work.
this. I don't disagree that a school's priority is education but sports and arts/music are just as important IMO. Sports teach kids teamwork, keeps them active and healthy, discipline, respect etc. It gives kids a structured environment to release stress and extra energy. Half day kindergarten is certainly not ideal, but IMO losing all sports isn't the answer either.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Half day K used to be the norm. I survived half day K and went in to college and to do well in life.
What people are failing to understand is that kindergarten is not what it was when we went to school. It is not what it was 10, even 5 years ago. With common core kindergarten students are expected to do so much more than ever before. My neighbor's daughter is currently a kindergarten student in Sachem and they read, write, have spelling tests, they do math. Kindergarten today is what 1st and 2nd grade was when we were young. There is no possible way they will be able to cram everything into a couple of hours that the children are required to know now - and this won't just effect them for one year. It will have lasting effects in the years to come.
I agree that sports and clubs are extremely important and help to make for a well rounded education, but they are called "EXTRAcurricular" activities for a reason. Academics should ALWAYS come first. Period.
 it's no joke. Sad!
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Half day K used to be the norm. I survived half day K and went in to college and to do well in life.
What people are failing to understand is that kindergarten is not what it was when we went to school. It is not what it was 10, even 5 years ago. With common core kindergarten students are expected to do so much more than ever before. My neighbor's daughter is currently a kindergarten student in Sachem and they read, write, have spelling tests, they do math. Kindergarten today is what 1st and 2nd grade was when we were young. There is no possible way they will be able to cram everything into a couple of hours that the children are required to know now - and this won't just effect them for one year. It will have lasting effects in the years to come.
I agree that sports and clubs are extremely important and help to make for a well rounded education, but they are called "EXTRAcurricular" activities for a reason. Academics should ALWAYS come first. Period.
it's no joke. Sad!
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Half day K used to be the norm. I survived half day K and went in to college and to do well in life.
What people are failing to understand is that kindergarten is not what it was when we went to school. It is not what it was 10, even 5 years ago. With common core kindergarten students are expected to do so much more than ever before. My neighbor's daughter is currently a kindergarten student in Sachem and they read, write, have spelling tests, they do math. Kindergarten today is what 1st and 2nd grade was when we were young. There is no possible way they will be able to cram everything into a couple of hours that the children are required to know now - and this won't just effect them for one year. It will have lasting effects in the years to come.
I agree that sports and clubs are extremely important and help to make for a well rounded education, but they are called "EXTRAcurricular" activities for a reason. Academics should ALWAYS come first. Period.
it's no joke. Sad!
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Eh, as a current K mom in a partial half day district - I don't really feel this to be the case at all. Yes, it's more than just recess and coloring but, it's really not as intense as this is making it sound. My DS is just finishing K and our school district is two days half days and 3 full and it was just fine. The actual K curriculum was VERY easy for him and many of his friends. I do wish that they challenged them more but, I don't think that was a function of hours in the day. As far as I know all the kids are really right where they need to be at the end of the year and, honestly, even WITH the half days...most of their day is filled with fun and not learning! You'd be surprised how much of their day is actually spent on reading, writing and math...not as much as you would think!
Bottom line, I think the kids will be JUST fine. It is TOTALLY possible to cram in all they need to know in that time and then some...they have an entire year to do so. I can assure you there will be no lasting effects. I am in a good school district with one of the highest SAT's scores per Newsday and great college acceptance in the ivy leagues etc...all with half day K! Don't stress it 
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Half day K used to be the norm. I survived half day K and went in to college and to do well in life.
What people are failing to understand is that kindergarten is not what it was when we went to school. It is not what it was 10, even 5 years ago. With common core kindergarten students are expected to do so much more than ever before. My neighbor's daughter is currently a kindergarten student in Sachem and they read, write, have spelling tests, they do math. Kindergarten today is what 1st and 2nd grade was when we were young. There is no possible way they will be able to cram everything into a couple of hours that the children are required to know now - and this won't just effect them for one year. It will have lasting effects in the years to come.
I agree that sports and clubs are extremely important and help to make for a well rounded education, but they are called "EXTRAcurricular" activities for a reason. Academics should ALWAYS come first. Period.
it's no joke. Sad!
100%!!
Eh, as a current K mom in a partial half day district - I don't really feel this to be the case at all. Yes, it's more than just recess and coloring but, it's really not as intense as this is making it sound. My DS is just finishing K and our school district is two days half days and 3 full and it was just fine. The actual K curriculum was VERY easy for him and many of his friends. I do wish that they challenged them more but, I don't think that was a function of hours in the day. As far as I know all the kids are really right where they need to be at the end of the year and, honestly, even WITH the half days...most of their day is filled with fun and not learning! You'd be surprised how much of their day is actually spent on reading, writing and math...not as much as you would think!
Bottom line, I think the kids will be JUST fine. It is TOTALLY possible to cram in all they need to know in that time and then some...they have an entire year to do so. I can assure you there will be no lasting effects. I am in a good school district with one of the highest SAT's scores per Newsday and great college acceptance in the ivy leagues etc...all with half day K! Don't stress it
I guess every kid is different because mine needed the entire day and special programs so I'm thankful I had full day because it benefitted him. I find all "things" school important so to see anything go makes me sad.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
I am a kindergarten teacher; with common core kindergarten is no longer play. They do academics pretty much all day; which includes reading, writing and math. So much is expected of kindergartners and we do all we can to get them prepared for first grade; where even more is demanded. I don't see how having a half day kindergarten could possibly get these kids ready for what they wil be expected to know in first grade and the demands that will be placed on them.....IMO.
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
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Posted by juanvi
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Posted by myboysmyheart
Half day K used to be the norm. I survived half day K and went in to college and to do well in life.
What people are failing to understand is that kindergarten is not what it was when we went to school. It is not what it was 10, even 5 years ago. With common core kindergarten students are expected to do so much more than ever before. My neighbor's daughter is currently a kindergarten student in Sachem and they read, write, have spelling tests, they do math. Kindergarten today is what 1st and 2nd grade was when we were young. There is no possible way they will be able to cram everything into a couple of hours that the children are required to know now - and this won't just effect them for one year. It will have lasting effects in the years to come.
I agree that sports and clubs are extremely important and help to make for a well rounded education, but they are called "EXTRAcurricular" activities for a reason. Academics should ALWAYS come first. Period.
it's no joke. Sad!
100%!!
Eh, as a current K mom in a partial half day district - I don't really feel this to be the case at all. Yes, it's more than just recess and coloring but, it's really not as intense as this is making it sound. My DS is just finishing K and our school district is two days half days and 3 full and it was just fine. The actual K curriculum was VERY easy for him and many of his friends. I do wish that they challenged them more but, I don't think that was a function of hours in the day. As far as I know all the kids are really right where they need to be at the end of the year and, honestly, even WITH the half days...most of their day is filled with fun and not learning! You'd be surprised how much of their day is actually spent on reading, writing and math...not as much as you would think!
Bottom line, I think the kids will be JUST fine. It is TOTALLY possible to cram in all they need to know in that time and then some...they have an entire year to do so. I can assure you there will be no lasting effects. I am in a good school district with one of the highest SAT's scores per Newsday and great college acceptance in the ivy leagues etc...all with half day K! Don't stress it
I guess every kid is different because mine needed the entire day and special programs so I'm thankful I had full day because it benefitted him. I find all "things" school important so to see anything go makes me sad.
In our district kids that get additional services go full day every day so maybe even with 1/2 day k if a child needs the extras they will get it - ie speech, ot, pt etc. - at least that is the way it works on our district.
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| Posted 5/30/13 9:03 PM |
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juanvi
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Re: Sachem proves athletics over education
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by juanvi
Posted by itsbabytime
Posted by Faithx2
Posted by juanvi
Posted by Kitty
Posted by myboysmyheart
Half day K used to be the norm. I survived half day K and went in to college and to do well in life.
What people are failing to understand is that kindergarten is not what it was when we went to school. It is not what it was 10, even 5 years ago. With common core kindergarten students are expected to do so much more than ever before. My neighbor's daughter is currently a kindergarten student in Sachem and they read, write, have spelling tests, they do math. Kindergarten today is what 1st and 2nd grade was when we were young. There is no possible way they will be able to cram everything into a couple of hours that the children are required to know now - and this won't just effect them for one year. It will have lasting effects in the years to come.
I agree that sports and clubs are extremely important and help to make for a well rounded education, but they are called "EXTRAcurricular" activities for a reason. Academics should ALWAYS come first. Period.
it's no joke. Sad!
100%!!
Eh, as a current K mom in a partial half day district - I don't really feel this to be the case at all. Yes, it's more than just recess and coloring but, it's really not as intense as this is making it sound. My DS is just finishing K and our school district is two days half days and 3 full and it was just fine. The actual K curriculum was VERY easy for him and many of his friends. I do wish that they challenged them more but, I don't think that was a function of hours in the day. As far as I know all the kids are really right where they need to be at the end of the year and, honestly, even WITH the half days...most of their day is filled with fun and not learning! You'd be surprised how much of their day is actually spent on reading, writing and math...not as much as you would think!
Bottom line, I think the kids will be JUST fine. It is TOTALLY possible to cram in all they need to know in that time and then some...they have an entire year to do so. I can assure you there will be no lasting effects. I am in a good school district with one of the highest SAT's scores per Newsday and great college acceptance in the ivy leagues etc...all with half day K! Don't stress it
I guess every kid is different because mine needed the entire day and special programs so I'm thankful I had full day because it benefitted him. I find all "things" school important so to see anything go makes me sad.
In our district kids that get additional services go full day every day so maybe even with 1/2 day k if a child needs the extras they will get it - ie speech, ot, pt etc. - at least that is the way it works on our district.
I still don't see athletics staying over academics even if it's only K. There's even talk in Albany to make full day K mandatory. but hey, maybe Sachem generates $$ with athletics. kids certainly benefit from them ..get scholarships etc.
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