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Meg1234
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by BargainMama
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I have explained why it's offensive. I know tons of mothers who have children with special needs who know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. You don't get it? Not my problem.
But you not wanting to accept that he did not do what you say he did harms YOU. He is the president. He does not need you or your vote anymore. In this case, you have a very false belief that you are holding against him for no reason (again, in this case).
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BargainMama
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by BargainMama
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I have explained why it's offensive. I know tons of mothers who have children with special needs who know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. You don't get it? Not my problem.
But you not wanting to accept that he did not do what you say he did harms YOU. He is the president. He does not need you or your vote anymore. In this case, you have a very false belief that you are holding against him for no reason (again, in this case).
He did it, plain and simple. If the reporter didn't have a disability, the gestures and tone are STILL highly offensive. Highly. Maybe not to you, but to many Americans with disabilities. End of story. Enjoy your night.
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:37 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by BargainMama
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I have explained why it's offensive. I know tons of mothers who have children with special needs who know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. You don't get it? Not my problem.
I think that has a lot to do with how the media spun this and the ads Hilary put out making it seem like he was mocking someone with autism.
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:38 PM |
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BargainMama
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by lululu
Posted by BargainMama
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I have explained why it's offensive. I know tons of mothers who have children with special needs who know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. You don't get it? Not my problem.
I think that has a lot to do with how the media spun this and the ads Hilary put out making it seem like he was mocking someone with autism.
Actually no. I saw the instance before it was even a commercial for Hillary. Still had the same opinion. Not replying anymore, because we obviously disagree. Goodnight.
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:40 PM |
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stinger
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Maybe we all need to spend our enery on more positive and productive things?!
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:45 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Who fcuking cares?????? Seriously. Who the fcuk cares!!!  This doesn't change the fact that the man is an incompetent moron who, REGARDLESS of the fact that he won, is 100% completely incapable of running this nation on ANY level and is at his core, a pig.
I don't even understand the point of this stupid, meaningless post. I mean, do you think it will make anyone who can't stand him think differently??? He won. At this point we all just have to deal with the fallout of that. Stop wasting everyone's time with your useless posts.
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:49 PM |
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lululu
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by stinger
Maybe we all need to spend our enery on more positive and productive things?!
I actually think this is such an important issue because the majority of Americans are stupid and cannot formulate a thought or opinion for themselves and blindly believe anything they see or hear. The media does everything for shock value and ratings and people eat it up. We need more responsible reporting.
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:51 PM |
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by lululu
Posted by BargainMama
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I have explained why it's offensive. I know tons of mothers who have children with special needs who know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. You don't get it? Not my problem.
I think that has a lot to do with how the media spun this and the ads Hilary put out making it seem like he was mocking someone with autism.
exactly, but on these boards only left leaning answers mean anything. I will certainly stick to the other boards going forward.
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:57 PM |
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Meg1234
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by Hofstra26
Who fcuking cares?????? Seriously. Who the fcuk cares!!! This doesn't change the fact that the man is an incompetent moron who, REGARDLESS of the fact that he won, is 100% completely incapable of running this nation on ANY level and is at his core, a pig.
I don't even understand the point of this stupid, meaningless post. I mean, do you think it will make anyone who can't stand him think differently??? He won. At this point we all just have to deal with the fallout of that. Stop wasting everyone's time with your useless posts.
Maybe not some who won't give him a chance and has their mind set, such as a few of you on LIF. But since he is our president, a lot of people were on the fence and yes, they should know the truth. Not believe only what they hear regarding this particular situation. It does matter to many if not you. He is the president and people need to calm down with the false accusations and twisting. May make someone else feel better about him after reading or watching re his "making fun of a disabled person".
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| Posted 11/10/16 4:59 PM |
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Hofstra26
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by Hofstra26
Who fcuking cares?????? Seriously. Who the fcuk cares!!! This doesn't change the fact that the man is an incompetent moron who, REGARDLESS of the fact that he won, is 100% completely incapable of running this nation on ANY level and is at his core, a pig.
I don't even understand the point of this stupid, meaningless post. I mean, do you think it will make anyone who can't stand him think differently??? He won. At this point we all just have to deal with the fallout of that. Stop wasting everyone's time with your useless posts.
Maybe not some who won't give him a chance and has their mind set, such as a few of you on LIF. But since he is our president, a lot of people were on the fence and yes, they should know the truth. Not believe only what they hear regarding this particular situation. It does matter to many if not you. He is the president and people need to calm down with the false accusations and twisting. May make someone else feel better about him after reading or watching re his "making fun of a disabled person".
So let's say he didn't make fun of a disabled person. There are about 5,000 other reasons why people who didn't support him think he's a piece if $hit and will make a terrible president. It's just not worth it to try and convince anyone of anything.
At the end of that day, we all have to deal with him as President but that doesn't mean we need to like him or support his agenda. I cast my vote just two short days ago and it wasn't for him, in those 48 hrs since I will not all of a sudden be convinced to jump on the "Trump Train".
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| Posted 11/10/16 5:04 PM |
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by BargainMama
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by BargainMama
I'm not going to go back and forth with you. I have explained why it's offensive. I know tons of mothers who have children with special needs who know exactly what I'm talking about. Exactly. You don't get it? Not my problem.
But you not wanting to accept that he did not do what you say he did harms YOU. He is the president. He does not need you or your vote anymore. In this case, you have a very false belief that you are holding against him for no reason (again, in this case).
He did it, plain and simple. If the reporter didn't have a disability, the gestures and tone are STILL highly offensive. Highly. Maybe not to you, but to many Americans with disabilities. End of story. Enjoy your night.
Ding ding ding.
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| Posted 11/10/16 5:06 PM |
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by Hofstra26
Who fcuking cares?????? Seriously. Who the fcuk cares!!! This doesn't change the fact that the man is an incompetent moron who, REGARDLESS of the fact that he won, is 100% completely incapable of running this nation on ANY level and is at his core, a pig.
I don't even understand the point of this stupid, meaningless post. I mean, do you think it will make anyone who can't stand him think differently??? He won. At this point we all just have to deal with the fallout of that. Stop wasting everyone's time with your useless posts.
I for one am going to give him a chance. Pretty sure he will fail miserably  but I am going to try (by next week some time) to keep my snotty comments to myself and focus on what he is doing now and going forward.
But I will always be disgusted by how he ran his campaign.
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| Posted 11/10/16 5:12 PM |
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Meg1234
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by MrsProfessor
But I will always be disgusted by how he ran his campaign.
Just because I voted for him, does not mean I approve of the way he ran his campaign entirely at all. I don't approve of the way Hillary behaved in many regards either. But in the end I voted for the person who I think has the better concept on the issues I find most important. Will he succeed in my eyes or fail? That will be determined. No one knows how any president will truly do in the end.
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Chai77
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Seriously, this post is stupid and that website is a joke.
That said, let's just say for arguments sake that he was not mocking the reporter's disability. He was just mocking him backpedaling or whatever nonsense. Cool. You still defend this behavior? He reminds me of an immature junior high schooler who can't form a coherent verbal response but resorts to this ridiculous mocking gesturing. He looks like an inarticulate, unprofessional moron. This is who you want to represent you?! Not me!!
ETA: If my 7 year old DS mocked anyone like this for any reason, I'd tell him to knock it off and stop acting like that. This is such moronic immature behavior for ANY reason.
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by Meg1234
Posted by MrsProfessor
But I will always be disgusted by how he ran his campaign.
Just because I voted for him, does not mean I approve of the way he ran his campaign entirely at all. I don't approve of the way Hillary behaved in many regards either. But in the end I voted for the person who I think has the better concept on the issues I find most important. Will he succeed in my eyes or fail? That will be determined. No one knows how any president will truly do in the end.
So you mean you believe in make America white again....
This post is ridiculous as are the sources you quoted. How about you attempt to defend the amount of hate crimes that have skyrocketed in the last two days in the name of Trump, or perhaps racism, sexism, bigotry, etc. are some of the concepts that you find so important.
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| Posted 11/10/16 10:14 PM |
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Summergirl
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by lululu
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So we're having a debate about *how* the leader of the free world is mocking (several) people.... 
No I think it's actually a debate about how the media twists things and people are basically too stupid to research it and then form judgements based on misinformation.
Thank you to the OP for trying to open people's eyes . For the record, I also have a few disabilities. I've had one since I was a young child. I also family members that have disabilities, too and was not offended by this. Nor did I think he was mocking the reporter for being disabled.
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jeanyus27
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by jamnmore
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Posted by BargainMama
Oh good grief, enough. I've seen that video posted many times in the past month or two on FB from the defenders. We all know that people make those gestures when saying something is basically "retarded" (and no I don't say that word...it's insulting...but I'm getting my point across), because after all, those are the gestures that many individuals with special needs make. That gesture was a "thing" in the 80's and before, remember? So we all know what he is doing. Stop trying to justify it. If Hillary Clinton did that, I would think it was equally as disgusting.
I grew up in the 80s and have no recollection of those gestures being a "thing."
I also grew up in the 80s and I have no recollection of this being a "thing". 
I was thinking the same thing. Don't remember that ever being a thing.
I grew up in the 80s & this was absolutely a thing. Mostly done by boys to mock someone that they thought did something stupid. For the same use as calling someone "retarded". It's extremely immature & luckily has been phased out of society....oh wait
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Chai77
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by jeanyus27
Posted by jamnmore
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Posted by BargainMama
Oh good grief, enough. I've seen that video posted many times in the past month or two on FB from the defenders. We all know that people make those gestures when saying something is basically "retarded" (and no I don't say that word...it's insulting...but I'm getting my point across), because after all, those are the gestures that many individuals with special needs make. That gesture was a "thing" in the 80's and before, remember? So we all know what he is doing. Stop trying to justify it. If Hillary Clinton did that, I would think it was equally as disgusting.
I grew up in the 80s and have no recollection of those gestures being a "thing."
I also grew up in the 80s and I have no recollection of this being a "thing".
I was thinking the same thing. Don't remember that ever being a thing.
I grew up in the 80s & this was absolutely a thing. Mostly done by boys to mock someone that they thought did something stupid. For the same use as calling someone "retarded". It's extremely immature & luckily has been phased out of society....oh wait
Yes. I remember this being a thing too. Hence my post above saying he reminds me of a junior high boy. He is highly offensive. Highly. Even if he didn't "mean it," it is offensive to many people (not just one or two overly sensitive ones), and he is absolutely responsible.
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MrsMick
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Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Saw this video a while ago. It showed me what I already knew. The media is notorious for lies.
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| Posted 11/11/16 8:41 AM |
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Megs1234
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by MrsMick
Saw this video a while ago. It showed me what I already knew. The media is notorious for lies.
Esp when coming from the Democratic campaign.
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ohbaby08
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Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
JUST STOP.
He knew exactly what he was doing when he made those gestures. And it was not just a coincidence of him imitating someone "stupid".
Serge Kovaleski (the disabled reporter) covered Trump from '87-'93 for the Daily News and knew him on a first name basis, having talked with and interviewed him over a dozen times. So, for this lying pile of dung to claim " I have no idea who Serge Kovaleski is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence" is an outright LIE. A pathetic way to excuse his disgusting actions.
Please tell me again how this was twisted by the MSM? Wait, don't bother.
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| Posted 11/11/16 9:31 AM |
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ElizaRags35
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by ohbaby08
JUST STOP.
He knew exactly what he was doing when he made those gestures. And it was not just a coincidence of him imitating someone "stupid".
Serge Kovaleski (the disabled reporter) covered Trump from '87-'93 for the Daily News and knew him on a first name basis, having talked with and interviewed him over a dozen times. So, for this lying pile of dung to claim " I have no idea who Serge Kovaleski is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence" is an outright LIE. A pathetic way to excuse his disgusting actions.
Please tell me again how this was twisted by the MSM? Wait, don't bother.
Because catholics4trump.com told them so! Duh!
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LeeCR7
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
When they can't defend it, they try to discredit it.
http://www.snopes.com/2016/07/28/donald-trump-criticized-for-mocking-disabled-reporter/
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Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
This thread is so highly offensive to me as a disabled adult. I'm speechless.
Perception is reality, sometimes. Let's just for arguments sake say he didn't mock the reporter. The perception is that he did, and that makes an already highly marginalized group feel even more marginalized by the PRESIDENT ELECT. Could that be the fault of the media? Absolutely. IMO he didn't do enough to convince me he believes that my vote as a disabled woman would matter to him. To Trump I don't even exist.
He's also in favor of cutting several programs that allow the disabled to be active members of the community. Most of you here have more experience with disabled children. I urge you to think about what that means when the children in your life grow up to become adults.
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Kitten1929
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Re: Article with videos and backstory - 100% proof that Donald Trump did NOT mock a Reporter's Disability
Posted by JoanneAndJustin
This thread is so highly offensive to me as a disabled adult. I'm speechless.
Perception is reality, sometimes. Let's just for arguments sake say he didn't mock the reporter. The perception is that he did, and that makes an already highly marginalized group feel even more marginalized by the PRESIDENT ELECT. Could that be the fault of the media? Absolutely. IMO he didn't do enough to convince me he believes that my vote as a disabled woman would matter to him. To Trump I don't even exist.
He's also in favor of cutting several programs that allow the disabled to be active members of the community. Most of you here have more experience with disabled children. I urge you to think about what that means when the children in your life grow up to become adults.
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I'm so sorry Joanne and you know you always matter to us and we'll make sure you can continue to live your life and raise your beautiful children.
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