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NervousNell
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Sad how these stupid reading logs are actually discouraging kids' love of reading.
So counterproductive
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by NervousNell
Sad how these stulid reading logs are actually discouraging kids' love of reading.
So counterproductive
Right? I'm so glad my daughters first grade teacher flat out said that if homework or reading logs are causing any frustration then stop, don't do it, try again another day.
In her class, they get a prize for completing the reading log, but no punishment if they don't. Positive reinforcement, hmm....
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| Posted 10/13/17 8:17 AM |
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KateBennetReel
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by LiveForMoments
Posted by NervousNell
Sad how these stulid reading logs are actually discouraging kids' love of reading.
So counterproductive
Right? I'm so glad my daughters first grade teacher flat out said that if homework or reading logs are causing any frustration then stop, don't do it, try again another day.
In her class, they get a prize for completing the reading log, but no punishment if they don't. Positive reinforcement, hmm....
Right on!
Power to the positive!
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| Posted 10/13/17 8:40 AM |
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BriBri2u
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by jamnmore
I for one am completely against homework at the elementary level. It serves no purpose. I have a first grader with special needs. Homework is a source of battle every day. 5 minutes worth of homework costs us 2 hours of family time. Screaming, hitting, tearing papers, tears, etc. He knows the work and is above grade level. He can read. But when I say homework, it is like a bomb.
I 100% agree. They need to do away with HW in the elementary school level IMO. These kids are drilled all day long and they start at an early age to top it all off.
The last thing they need is MORE work to keep things 'fresh' for the next day. All it does is mentally drain everyone out at home.
My nieces in Seattle are the same ages as mine, they NEVER get hw. Their schools believe that they should be outside playing and having family time or doing extra curricular activities. The schools feel like they do enough during the day, no need to extend it into the home. They are both excellent students and above their reading levels for each age group.
As for the origional post, I think its a bit much to have him miss recess because he forgot to log in. I would just be making sure it is done. DS is in 2nd and he has a log that he has to do every night as well (I FRIGGIN HATE IT!!! and so does he), but the teacher is a bit more lax about making sure it is up to date. There are some nights where he just does not get to it or he does not want to get up to log it in after he is done while laying in bed.
I personally think it turns kids off to reading. They are forcing them to do something every night and it becomes like a chore. Eventually, you will get bored of it. My DS enjoys books, but when I tell him to go start his 20 minutes of reading each night, he groans AND that was never the case.
They can take their log and shove it IMO.
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Dolphinsbaby
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by NervousNell
Sad how these stulid reading logs are actually discouraging kids' love of reading.
So counterproductive
Yes!!!!
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| Posted 10/13/17 10:03 AM |
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cj7305
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
I'm a teacher. And a mom. I HATE reading logs and never do them with my classes. I know parents fudge them so why waste my time. I don't see them serving any meaningful purpose. I put reading nightly as my homework and if they do it, fantastic, they will benefit form it. And if they don't, they won't.
I also do not take away recess for not completing homework but clearly different strokes... I hope you were able to express yourself in a way that helps you resolve the issue.
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| Posted 10/13/17 11:33 PM |
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DancinBarefoot
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
I didn't read through all the responses, but you should do some research. Missing recess is NEVER appropriate for children.
Armed with the research, I would head straight to the principal to attempt to institute a school wide policy change to prohibit withholding recess as a punishment.
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| Posted 10/15/17 11:58 AM |
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Taking recess away for incomplete homework
I do not think taking recess is the answer, however, if my child is assigned to do homework, it is the expectation they do it. If they have sports let’s say Tuesday and they have to read 10 pages a night, I would ask the teacher in the beginning of the year can they do 20 pages Monday- in advance of Tuesday due to their sport. If the teacher says no, then so be it, I expect my kids to do it I would not fudge those reading logs as that is not the example I want to set for my kids. Taking short cuts and losing isn’t going to get them far in life and be honest people. If it’s you that is forgetting maybe teach your child to write what he read in the log and have you sign it. I get we are al busy and work but setting aside time to review homework and what needs to be done with your child for school is important.
I’m sorry but it’s wrong. With that said, I think having to make it up during homework the next night is better than taking away recess.
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| Posted 10/15/17 12:34 PM |
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pinkiegirl
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by BriBri2u
Posted by jamnmore
I for one am completely against homework at the elementary level. It serves no purpose. I have a first grader with special needs. Homework is a source of battle every day. 5 minutes worth of homework costs us 2 hours of family time. Screaming, hitting, tearing papers, tears, etc. He knows the work and is above grade level. He can read. But when I say homework, it is like a bomb.
I 100% agree. They need to do away with HW in the elementary school level IMO. These kids are drilled all day long and they start at an early age to top it all off.
The last thing they need is MORE work to keep things 'fresh' for the next day. All it does is mentally drain everyone out at home.
My nieces in Seattle are the same ages as mine, they NEVER get hw. Their schools believe that they should be outside playing and having family time or doing extra curricular activities. The schools feel like they do enough during the day, no need to extend it into the home. They are both excellent students and above their reading levels for each age group.
As for the origional post, I think its a bit much to have him miss recess because he forgot to log in. I would just be making sure it is done. DS is in 2nd and he has a log that he has to do every night as well (I FRIGGIN HATE IT!!! and so does he), but the teacher is a bit more lax about making sure it is up to date. There are some nights where he just does not get to it or he does not want to get up to log it in after he is done while laying in bed.
I personally think it turns kids off to reading. They are forcing them to do something every night and it becomes like a chore. Eventually, you will get bored of it. My DS enjoys books, but when I tell him to go start his 20 minutes of reading each night, he groans AND that was never the case.
They can take their log and shove it IMO.
I'm definitely in favor of limiting HW but it shouldnt be taken away completely.
Research shows even small amounts can help them do better on unit tests, can help shape their time management and organization skills. The key is moderation and doing the appropriate amount of HW for a child's grade level.
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| Posted 10/18/17 1:09 PM |
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by DancinBarefoot
I didn't read through all the responses, but you should do some research. Missing recess is NEVER appropriate for children.
Armed with the research, I would head straight to the principal to attempt to institute a school wide policy change to prohibit withholding recess as a punishment.
Really because it was he best thing thy ever happen to my son. However, he was missing it because he wasn’t doing his class work. At first the teacher would give it to him to do at home which made it worse for us and it also didn’t teach him anything because his mindset was whatever I can do my class work later at home.
After he started missing recess he realized he should be doing his class work in class.
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| Posted 10/18/17 3:28 PM |
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Teachergal
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
I'm a little late to responding here, but it sounds like there isn't a routine at home for your DS to do homework. That may help him be more consistent with completing it. By second grade, he should be responsible for filling out his own log. You shouldn't have to be doing it for him. It literally takes 30 seconds to fill it out. While I don't love the idea of taking away recess, I can understand why the teacher would have a consequence in place when it doesn't get done.
And as an aside, I am a teacher and I do use reading logs as a teaching tool. I see how many pages a child reads a night, I see the genre of books they are choosing, I can see if they are reading around their level, etc. I understand as a parent that they seem annoying, but they can actually be an helpful tool.
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| Posted 10/20/17 9:11 PM |
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Lauren82
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
I have a serious (not meant to be snarky) question...I'm a teacher so sometimes my views on this are skewed...do the parents reading this feel there should be no consequence for not completing homework or have an alternative consequence that they view as better? I struggle with homework completion some years in my classroom (we give minimal and it focuses on reading and a quick math review, but we are not allowed to take away recess for non completion) but I do feel it is developing responsibility and good work habits to have a small amount of homework in younger grades.
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| Posted 10/21/17 10:46 AM |
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Adri
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by Lauren82
I have a serious (not meant to be snarky) question...I'm a teacher so sometimes my views on this are skewed...do the parents reading this feel there should be no consequence for not completing homework or have an alternative consequence that they view as better? I struggle with homework completion some years in my classroom (we give minimal and it focuses on reading and a quick math review, but we are not allowed to take away recess for non completion) but I do feel it is developing responsibility and good work habits to have a small amount of homework in younger grades.
I'm not a teacher. I agree that homework is essential to develop responsibility, and the amount of time should be equivalent to their age. Even during the summer, DS does some amount of homework (reading that he loves and math), and he has been doing that since he was in kindergarten. In this case, I think the consequence should be reflected on the grades. The grades should reflect work habits, effort and content learned.
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| Posted 10/21/17 12:55 PM |
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Lauren82
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by Adri
Posted by Lauren82
I have a serious (not meant to be snarky) question...I'm a teacher so sometimes my views on this are skewed...do the parents reading this feel there should be no consequence for not completing homework or have an alternative consequence that they view as better? I struggle with homework completion some years in my classroom (we give minimal and it focuses on reading and a quick math review, but we are not allowed to take away recess for non completion) but I do feel it is developing responsibility and good work habits to have a small amount of homework in younger grades.
I'm not a teacher. I agree that homework is essential to develop responsibility, and the amount of time should be equivalent to their age. Even during the summer, DS does some amount of homework (reading that he loves and math), and he has been doing that since he was in kindergarten. In this case, I think the consequence should be reflected on the grades. The grades should reflect work habits, effort and content learned.
Unfortunately in my district, grades don't reflect homework. In early grades, it's simply a rubric of 1-4 reflective of the standards.
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| Posted 10/21/17 1:38 PM |
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NervousNell
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Re: Taking recess away for incomplete homework
Posted by Lauren82
I have a serious (not meant to be snarky) question...I'm a teacher so sometimes my views on this are skewed...do the parents reading this feel there should be no consequence for not completing homework or have an alternative consequence that they view as better? I struggle with homework completion some years in my classroom (we give minimal and it focuses on reading and a quick math review, but we are not allowed to take away recess for non completion) but I do feel it is developing responsibility and good work habits to have a small amount of homework in younger grades.
I agree with you, and I am a stickler for my DD to do her homework. We do it every night when I get home. If I am not home due to working late, I make sure she does it and DH checks it.
I admit I flubbed a few reading logs when she had to do those in 1st grade last year. It was books she read, but maybe she didn't read them that night- she reads a lot more on weekends etc.
So yeah those I might have flubbed.
And I would be ok with her having to do it during recess on the off chance we didn't do it.
I think the issue here was the student DID the reading but the mom forgot to log it and she wrote a note to the teacher saying- my bad, not his, and the teacher still took recess away from the child.
My DD's teacher told us at open school night that she does make them do missed homework during recess - and if they finish, they can go outside for the rest of the time- so it's less a 'punishment' and more a 'consequence' BUT if we send her a note saying ''so sorry, we had a family obligation last night, we weren't feeling well, we had a late soccer game, etc- she will excuse them and let them take full recess and just have them double up on homework the next night.
To me, there needs to be SOME flexibility with homework because shitt happens.
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