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Re: 20/20 special last Friday on heroin
Posted by Jonsgirl04
My uncle is a Heroin addict. He is only a few years older than me. It started out with a pain pill addiction, then he turned to Heroin. This has been going on almost 8 years. In and out of programs. He had a son at one point but he gave up his rights after the mother begged him. He actually chose to give up his rights instead of going to jail because of child support. Of course now he regrets that he did that because now he will never see him again. Then He winds up having another child. This time the girl who he is with helps My uncle get clean. He goes away for 90 days. He came back a new person!! Best he had looked in years. Well after getting a really good job and his 1st paycheck he winds up overdosing on the job. His boss found him in the bathroom and Narcan saved his life. 130 days clean and then right back to it!! Uncle went back to detox at St. Charles after a week of being there, the insurance kicks him out. Not long enough, back to getting high. I cant take it anymore!! My grandmother refuses to throw him out of her house. My heart breaks that he had 2 children. One we will never see again because of him. The other little girl still sees him but supervised by the mom of course. I still say he hasn't hit rock bottom because of my grandmother, and one sister who gives him a $20 here and there. Always waiting to hear the phone ring expecting to hear that he died. Herion SUCKS!
I'm very sorry. I know what it's like to watch that happen. I just wanted to say that you cannot blame your grandmother. Heroin addicts will ALWAYS find a way to get their next fix. If it's not taking/stealing from family and friends, it's robbing cars or people on the street. From the history you posted, it seems like he just doesn't want to get clean. It's very common for them to tell you what you want to hear. They say they want to get clean, but there's always an excuse as to why it didn't work out. I've seen it time and time again and they will choose the drug over their family any day of the week. If there's one thing I've taken away from all the addiction specialists I've dealt with over the years it's that you have to hold the addict accountable for his/her own actions and it's nobody's fault but their own.
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20/20 special last Friday on heroin
I have a very hard time believing that 80% starts with pain pill addiction after an injury. Most of the addicts that I know of had drug and or alcohol problems for years then seemed to just move on to harder ones. Also, this seems to be a huge epidemic in high school kids, which doesn't strike me as an age group that's very likely to be prescribed heavy duty pain pills.
Are the majority of addicts older people and I'm just out of the loop?
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Re: 20/20 special last Friday on heroin
Posted by Sparrow
I have a very hard time believing that 80% starts with pain pill addiction after an injury. Most of the addicts that I know of had drug and or alcohol problems for years then seemed to just move on to harder ones. Also, this seems to be a huge epidemic in high school kids, which doesn't strike me as an age group that's very likely to be prescribed heavy duty pain pills.
Are the majority of addicts older people and I'm just out of the loop?
I don't know if that percentage is correct or not but I think that the kids that are getting into it are taking prescription pills from adults around them. They use it as a way to get high. I'm sure they are not all receiving prescriptions for the pain killers.
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| Posted 3/17/16 1:30 PM |
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Re: 20/20 special last Friday on heroin
I want to share as someone who had a drug problem in college and completely cleaned up.
Obviously I am not speaking for every person out there, but I wanted to share my experience.
I went to a college where there was a huge heroin problem. Kids at the dorms would sit and watch movies and pass lines around the way kids would pass around a joint.
So stupid.
I already had a drug problem, but wouldn't say i was a full addict. My story was I came from an abusive home, was taught that I was garbage, and continued to abuse myself after I left. I lived a clubby, party life. It kept me distracted from myself.
I don't care what anyone says - drugs are ALWAYS an escape from something. Even kids from "perfect" homes. No one turns to drugs unless there is some kind of pain somewhere in their lives.
however - genetically, some are more prone to addiction than others.
I dodged a bullet by not becoming addicted. i was able to take a lot of addictive drugs - and I did almost everything you can imagine - and not get addicted. I had a problem, but when I realized i was heading down a dark and ugly path, and ultimately death, i was able to stop completely on my own. no rehab. Nothing.
Some of the friends in the dorms weren't so lucky.
Some were like me - they just said "know what? I'm done!" and put the shitt down and walked away. Boom - just like that.
Some needed to be sent to rehab by heart broken families.
The reasons people pick up and the reasons they get addicted are kind of the same, and kind of different at the same time.
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SecretlyTTC14
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Re: 20/20 special last Friday on heroin
Posted by kristin597
Posted by Sparrow
I have a very hard time believing that 80% starts with pain pill addiction after an injury. Most of the addicts that I know of had drug and or alcohol problems for years then seemed to just move on to harder ones. Also, this seems to be a huge epidemic in high school kids, which doesn't strike me as an age group that's very likely to be prescribed heavy duty pain pills.
Are the majority of addicts older people and I'm just out of the loop?
I don't know if that percentage is correct or not but I think that the kids that are getting into it are taking prescription pills from adults around them. They use it as a way to get high. I'm sure they are not all receiving prescriptions for the pain killers.
I think maybe the 80% refers to adults that start using as a result of addiction to pain pills. If 80% of teens are getting addicted to pain pills by taking them from their parents... then I think we found the problem. There is no way that many parents are choosing to look the other way while their kid steals enough pills to become a junkie.
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kristin597
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Re: 20/20 special last Friday on heroin
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by kristin597
Posted by Sparrow
I have a very hard time believing that 80% starts with pain pill addiction after an injury. Most of the addicts that I know of had drug and or alcohol problems for years then seemed to just move on to harder ones. Also, this seems to be a huge epidemic in high school kids, which doesn't strike me as an age group that's very likely to be prescribed heavy duty pain pills.
Are the majority of addicts older people and I'm just out of the loop?
I don't know if that percentage is correct or not but I think that the kids that are getting into it are taking prescription pills from adults around them. They use it as a way to get high. I'm sure they are not all receiving prescriptions for the pain killers.
I think maybe the 80% refers to adults that start using as a result of addiction to pain pills. If 80% of teens are getting addicted to pain pills by taking them from their parents... then I think we found the problem. There is no way that many parents are choosing to look the other way while their kid steals enough pills to become a junkie.
Absolutely. I don't think every kid doing heroin is starting off from pills nor do I think that they are all getting them from their parents. I think a lot of it starts that way yes. But I also think most kids think they are invincible and won't get hooked.
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Re: 20/20 special last Friday on heroin
Posted by kristin597
Posted by SecretlyTTC14
Posted by kristin597
Posted by Sparrow
I have a very hard time believing that 80% starts with pain pill addiction after an injury. Most of the addicts that I know of had drug and or alcohol problems for years then seemed to just move on to harder ones. Also, this seems to be a huge epidemic in high school kids, which doesn't strike me as an age group that's very likely to be prescribed heavy duty pain pills.
Are the majority of addicts older people and I'm just out of the loop?
I don't know if that percentage is correct or not but I think that the kids that are getting into it are taking prescription pills from adults around them. They use it as a way to get high. I'm sure they are not all receiving prescriptions for the pain killers.
I think maybe the 80% refers to adults that start using as a result of addiction to pain pills. If 80% of teens are getting addicted to pain pills by taking them from their parents... then I think we found the problem. There is no way that many parents are choosing to look the other way while their kid steals enough pills to become a junkie.
Absolutely. I don't think every kid doing heroin is starting off from pills nor do I think that they are all getting them from their parents. I think a lot of it starts that way yes. But I also think most kids think they are invincible and won't get hooked.
What scares me is that I totally don't know the answer to this. No-one in my family is an addict, none of my friends are addicts and I'm scared that I wouldn't even know what signs to look for.
Heroin is something that scares the bejesus out of me.
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20/20 special last Friday on heroin
It seems like there is some misinformation here. Heroin is an opiate, "pills" like Vicodin are also opiates. Heroin is pretty much the same thing. You will not get addicted the first time you use either. There are millions of people who do opiates and do not become addicts. I was given Percocet after giving birth and didn't become an addict.
One important thing addiction is a disease and it isn't always the drug but the behavior. You go to rehab and get clean so you're not physically addicted but mentally, the behavior. Unfortunately opiates are creating a new breed of drug addicts. It works on certain parts of your brain and makes a lot of people feel "normal".
Some of you mentioning giving up children and not growing up, an addiction is paramount. It doesn't matter if you stand to loose 10 children, or a million dollars or your moms left leg. That's why it is a disease. It's really hard for people to wrap their minds around that which is why they get called junkie and other mean words. It's so hard to get because free will is involved to a degree.
Did you know someone with a mental illness is 300% more likely to have a drug problem? Did you know you cannot diagnose someone with a mental health problem until they're sober for about 60 days? Do you know how hard it is to get an addict clean for that period of time when insurance only pays for about 28? It's a vicious cycle.
My favorite saying is desperate people do desperate things, I always think of david Laffer and how he executed those people. Opiates as BIG with housewives. You're tired from your kids and want to be super mom and you take a few pills and at first all is great! It's a euphoric feeling.
Unfortunately opiates have been involved in my life and they're horrific. If anyone who reads this has a family member involved I suggest to go to an alanon meeting ASAP, they have online meeting too, so totally private. But it helps.
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