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Shanti
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by Hi-Fi55
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by dm24angel
you cannot be narrow minded and think simply...keep them out, serve us first... At least not if you want to truly be an ethical unselfish human being....IMO
It's too bad that we can't help everyone, but we can't. When you try to help everyone, in the end I think no one benefits.
Agreed completly...
but are you ( governemnt) helping ANYONE?
Of course not everyone can be helped...but clear guidlines to make the country a more open place to those in need WOULD solve the problem, but there are those who think NO ONE should get the help and thats what perpetuates the issue.
I have to say Im not even wanting to continue with my points...because they seem to not be understood. I agree with what so many of you are saying that we cant help everyone, but the basic human in me is truly appalled at the blind eye so many of you are turning . I dont think some of you understand the true LUCK of what you were born into , because if you did you would be saddened by this as well. Or seen the true horror that some people escape.
I would share my land with anyone in need, american or not. thats compassion not political beliefs.
Thinking in terms of what I can do to help my fellow american versus my fellow human to me is exactly what caused this issue.
If we spent our money on helping these people, they would stay where they live versus coming here. Why should we? Because WE CAN.....simple as that. Why should we help ANYONE in their time of need...because WE CAN, I would hate to think there are people who wouldnt in this world...
An example... 100 billion dollars is spent on failed Nasa projects no one even knows about, yet we could save tens of thousands of lives instead....actually make the world not just OUR country a better place to live.
Thats my opinion and I guess I do wish more believed as I do...although I respect you all in your own beliefs.
As a human being my heart goes out to each and every person that struggles every day in their country. Whether suffering from poverty, hunger, war, etc. I truly do feel sorry for them. I do feel blessed for knowing that I live in this country.
I do understand your statement where our government needs to be refocusing how they allocate their funds (Nasa vs. saving lives) and I do agree with you.
However, this goes back to the statement of not being able to save others without saving ourselves first. This country has put its head so far ups its asss and doesn't know whether it is coming or going on so many political issues (whether health care, WAR, etc.) that we need to really come back to home base, start taking care of our needs, focus on the issues within this country and then, maybe then we can start "saving the world".
How can a country that is so corrupt and so disheveled within itself think that is capable of being able to take care of others. If I am sick I can't take care of another person, so can a sick country take care of another sick country?
If you look around the world, I hardly think you can call the US disheveled, corrupt, etc. We function better than most countries around the world. Look at the 2000 election - despite all the drama, protests, and anger, no one was shot or killed, there was no revolution or overthrow - not even an attempted one! The US has her problems, I agree, but let's also be reasonable. When was the last time you worried aabout being the victim of government sponsored genocide? Or a government sponsored murder? The people in the US have an amazing quality of life.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
My whole point from my long opinion from the first page and that the US needs to fix the way immigrants can get
visas and be called legal immigrants. Seven years to get one is ridiculous. I don't want it to be a very quick process because we do need to screen all potential terrorist and such, but being from another country and not being able to be granted asylum is unacceptable in my opinion.
This would eliminate the illegal situation and the immigrants would be paying taxes.
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MrsS2005
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by dm24angel
If we spent our money on helping these people, they would stay where they live versus coming here. Why should we? Because WE CAN.....simple as that. Why should we help ANYONE in their time of need...because WE CAN, I would hate to think there are people who wouldnt in this world...
Can we really afford to help everyone? This country has billions of dollars of debt, it can't afford (or chooses not to spend money) to provide all of its citizens with healthcare and a good education, there is a social security crisis, etc. Yes, we are lucky to be born here, but there are plenty of people born here who are in horrible situations. By helping everyone, I think the US's resources are being spread too thin. If the US can't afford to take care of its own, can it or should it take on the responsibility of taking care of everyone? Why are we the only country that should have this responsibility? It would be a lot easier if a lot of countries banned together and combined their resources to help others. Since this hasn't happened, I don't think the burden should be placed solely on the US.
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MrsS2005
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by DMcK
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by Hi-Fi55
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by dm24angel
you cannot be narrow minded and think simply...keep them out, serve us first... At least not if you want to truly be an ethical unselfish human being....IMO
It's too bad that we can't help everyone, but we can't. When you try to help everyone, in the end I think no one benefits.
Agreed completly...
but are you ( governemnt) helping ANYONE?
Of course not everyone can be helped...but clear guidlines to make the country a more open place to those in need WOULD solve the problem, but there are those who think NO ONE should get the help and thats what perpetuates the issue.
I have to say Im not even wanting to continue with my points...because they seem to not be understood. I agree with what so many of you are saying that we cant help everyone, but the basic human in me is truly appalled at the blind eye so many of you are turning . I dont think some of you understand the true LUCK of what you were born into , because if you did you would be saddened by this as well. Or seen the true horror that some people escape.
I would share my land with anyone in need, american or not. thats compassion not political beliefs.
Thinking in terms of what I can do to help my fellow american versus my fellow human to me is exactly what caused this issue.
If we spent our money on helping these people, they would stay where they live versus coming here. Why should we? Because WE CAN.....simple as that. Why should we help ANYONE in their time of need...because WE CAN, I would hate to think there are people who wouldnt in this world...
An example... 100 billion dollars is spent on failed Nasa projects no one even knows about, yet we could save tens of thousands of lives instead....actually make the world not just OUR country a better place to live.
Thats my opinion and I guess I do wish more believed as I do...although I respect you all in your own beliefs.
As a human being my heart goes out to each and every person that struggles every day in their country. Whether suffering from poverty, hunger, war, etc. I truly do feel sorry for them. I do feel blessed for knowing that I live in this country.
I do understand your statement where our government needs to be refocusing how they allocate their funds (Nasa vs. saving lives) and I do agree with you.
However, this goes back to the statement of not being able to save others without saving ourselves first. This country has put its head so far ups its asss and doesn't know whether it is coming or going on so many political issues (whether health care, WAR, etc.) that we need to really come back to home base, start taking care of our needs, focus on the issues within this country and then, maybe then we can start "saving the world".
How can a country that is so corrupt and so disheveled within itself think that is capable of being able to take care of others. If I am sick I can't take care of another person, so can a sick country take care of another sick country?
If you look around the world, I hardly think you can call the US disheveled, corrupt, etc. We function better than most countries around the world. Look at the 2000 election - despite all the drama, protests, and anger, no one was shot or killed, there was no revolution or overthrow - not even an attempted one! The US has her problems, I agree, but let's also be reasonable. When was the last time you worried aabout being the victim of government sponsored genocide? Or a government sponsored murder? The people in the US have an amazing quality of life.
Maybe we don't have genocide, but I wouldn't characterize an American who's homeless or working 3 jobs just to put clothes on their children's backs having an amazing qulaity of life.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by dm24angel
Thats my opinion and I guess I do wish more believed as I do...although I respect you all in your own beliefs.
I agree with most of what you said, Donna, but I chose to stay out of this one. I just didn't think I could express my feelings and points about this very well on a chat board.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by MrsS2005
Maybe we don't have genocide, but I wouldn't characterize an American who's homeless or working 3 jobs just to put clothes on their children's backs having an amazing qulaity of life.
I truly don't mean this to be snide- but I have never seen any poverty here that compares to other areas of the world. Even the poor and the homeless get food and medical attention here.
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Hi-Fi55
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by DMcK
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by Hi-Fi55
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by dm24angel
you cannot be narrow minded and think simply...keep them out, serve us first... At least not if you want to truly be an ethical unselfish human being....IMO
It's too bad that we can't help everyone, but we can't. When you try to help everyone, in the end I think no one benefits.
Agreed completly...
but are you ( governemnt) helping ANYONE?
Of course not everyone can be helped...but clear guidlines to make the country a more open place to those in need WOULD solve the problem, but there are those who think NO ONE should get the help and thats what perpetuates the issue.
I have to say Im not even wanting to continue with my points...because they seem to not be understood. I agree with what so many of you are saying that we cant help everyone, but the basic human in me is truly appalled at the blind eye so many of you are turning . I dont think some of you understand the true LUCK of what you were born into , because if you did you would be saddened by this as well. Or seen the true horror that some people escape.
I would share my land with anyone in need, american or not. thats compassion not political beliefs.
Thinking in terms of what I can do to help my fellow american versus my fellow human to me is exactly what caused this issue.
If we spent our money on helping these people, they would stay where they live versus coming here. Why should we? Because WE CAN.....simple as that. Why should we help ANYONE in their time of need...because WE CAN, I would hate to think there are people who wouldnt in this world...
An example... 100 billion dollars is spent on failed Nasa projects no one even knows about, yet we could save tens of thousands of lives instead....actually make the world not just OUR country a better place to live.
Thats my opinion and I guess I do wish more believed as I do...although I respect you all in your own beliefs.
As a human being my heart goes out to each and every person that struggles every day in their country. Whether suffering from poverty, hunger, war, etc. I truly do feel sorry for them. I do feel blessed for knowing that I live in this country.
I do understand your statement where our government needs to be refocusing how they allocate their funds (Nasa vs. saving lives) and I do agree with you.
However, this goes back to the statement of not being able to save others without saving ourselves first. This country has put its head so far ups its asss and doesn't know whether it is coming or going on so many political issues (whether health care, WAR, etc.) that we need to really come back to home base, start taking care of our needs, focus on the issues within this country and then, maybe then we can start "saving the world".
How can a country that is so corrupt and so disheveled within itself think that is capable of being able to take care of others. If I am sick I can't take care of another person, so can a sick country take care of another sick country?
If you look around the world, I hardly think you can call the US disheveled, corrupt, etc. We function better than most countries around the world. Look at the 2000 election - despite all the drama, protests, and anger, no one was shot or killed, there was no revolution or overthrow - not even an attempted one! The US has her problems, I agree, but let's also be reasonable. When was the last time you worried aabout being the victim of government sponsored genocide? Or a government sponsored murder? The people in the US have an amazing quality of life.
You don't need people to be killed or revolutions to be corrupt. It doesn't take genocide either. If you want to talk about the 2000 elections, we were quite disheveled and we needed none of that. The ENTIRE world laughed at us while that was going on. We made a mockery of our voting system. And to this day people still can't figure out how to vote (look at the last election, we almost had a repeat of it). There was the whole Hurricane Katrina catastrophe that is still going on and the 9/11 debate that will never be revolved. Listen, every country has there issues and there are things going in within the government we don't even know about. I love this country and wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I just want to start focusing more on the people already here.
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MrsS2005
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by baghag
Posted by MrsS2005
Maybe we don't have genocide, but I wouldn't characterize an American who's homeless or working 3 jobs just to put clothes on their children's backs having an amazing qulaity of life.
I truly don't mean this to be snide- but I have never seen any poverty here that compares to other areas of the world. Even the poor and the homeless get food and medical attention here.
So you would characterize an impoverished person's quality of life as amazing b/c he or she can receive food and medical attention? I'm sorry but although nothing can be compared to genocide and war torn countries, I don't think everything is sunshine and roses here. I feel very fortunate, but I don't think the homeless here are fortunate simply b/c they may have access to food and medical attention.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by baghag
Posted by MrsS2005
Maybe we don't have genocide, but I wouldn't characterize an American who's homeless or working 3 jobs just to put clothes on their children's backs having an amazing qulaity of life.
I truly don't mean this to be snide- but I have never seen any poverty here that compares to other areas of the world. Even the poor and the homeless get food and medical attention here.
Here is some info on America's poor. The numbers are surprising.
Link
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Shanti
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by Hi-Fi55
Posted by DMcK
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by Hi-Fi55
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by dm24angel
you cannot be narrow minded and think simply...keep them out, serve us first... At least not if you want to truly be an ethical unselfish human being....IMO
It's too bad that we can't help everyone, but we can't. When you try to help everyone, in the end I think no one benefits.
Agreed completly...
but are you ( governemnt) helping ANYONE?
Of course not everyone can be helped...but clear guidlines to make the country a more open place to those in need WOULD solve the problem, but there are those who think NO ONE should get the help and thats what perpetuates the issue.
I have to say Im not even wanting to continue with my points...because they seem to not be understood. I agree with what so many of you are saying that we cant help everyone, but the basic human in me is truly appalled at the blind eye so many of you are turning . I dont think some of you understand the true LUCK of what you were born into , because if you did you would be saddened by this as well. Or seen the true horror that some people escape.
I would share my land with anyone in need, american or not. thats compassion not political beliefs.
Thinking in terms of what I can do to help my fellow american versus my fellow human to me is exactly what caused this issue.
If we spent our money on helping these people, they would stay where they live versus coming here. Why should we? Because WE CAN.....simple as that. Why should we help ANYONE in their time of need...because WE CAN, I would hate to think there are people who wouldnt in this world...
An example... 100 billion dollars is spent on failed Nasa projects no one even knows about, yet we could save tens of thousands of lives instead....actually make the world not just OUR country a better place to live.
Thats my opinion and I guess I do wish more believed as I do...although I respect you all in your own beliefs.
As a human being my heart goes out to each and every person that struggles every day in their country. Whether suffering from poverty, hunger, war, etc. I truly do feel sorry for them. I do feel blessed for knowing that I live in this country.
I do understand your statement where our government needs to be refocusing how they allocate their funds (Nasa vs. saving lives) and I do agree with you.
However, this goes back to the statement of not being able to save others without saving ourselves first. This country has put its head so far ups its asss and doesn't know whether it is coming or going on so many political issues (whether health care, WAR, etc.) that we need to really come back to home base, start taking care of our needs, focus on the issues within this country and then, maybe then we can start "saving the world".
How can a country that is so corrupt and so disheveled within itself think that is capable of being able to take care of others. If I am sick I can't take care of another person, so can a sick country take care of another sick country?
If you look around the world, I hardly think you can call the US disheveled, corrupt, etc. We function better than most countries around the world. Look at the 2000 election - despite all the drama, protests, and anger, no one was shot or killed, there was no revolution or overthrow - not even an attempted one! The US has her problems, I agree, but let's also be reasonable. When was the last time you worried aabout being the victim of government sponsored genocide? Or a government sponsored murder? The people in the US have an amazing quality of life.
You don't need people to be killed or revolutions to be corrupt. It doesn't take genocide either. If you want to talk about the 2000 elections, we were quite disheveled and we needed none of that. The ENTIRE world laughed at us while that was going on. We made a mockery of our voting system. And to this day people still can't figure out how to vote (look at the last election, we almost had a repeat of it). There was the whole Hurricane Katrina catastrophe that is still going on and the 9/11 debate that will never be revolved. Listen, every country has there issues and there are things going in within the government we don't even know about. I love this country and wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I just want to start focusing more on the people already here.
I agree that we have our own problems, I just think we don't have problems that compare to other countries in this world. As a human, I think we should help out fellow humans whenever we can. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
In 2004 there were 37 million people in this country that were considered living in poverty. Maybe we should be looking in to helping them before we start helping the rest of the world.
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Hi-Fi55
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by DMcK
Posted by Hi-Fi55
Posted by DMcK
Posted by MrsS2005
Posted by Hi-Fi55
Posted by dm24angel
Posted by MrsProfessor
Posted by dm24angel
you cannot be narrow minded and think simply...keep them out, serve us first... At least not if you want to truly be an ethical unselfish human being....IMO
It's too bad that we can't help everyone, but we can't. When you try to help everyone, in the end I think no one benefits.
Agreed completly...
but are you ( governemnt) helping ANYONE?
Of course not everyone can be helped...but clear guidlines to make the country a more open place to those in need WOULD solve the problem, but there are those who think NO ONE should get the help and thats what perpetuates the issue.
I have to say Im not even wanting to continue with my points...because they seem to not be understood. I agree with what so many of you are saying that we cant help everyone, but the basic human in me is truly appalled at the blind eye so many of you are turning . I dont think some of you understand the true LUCK of what you were born into , because if you did you would be saddened by this as well. Or seen the true horror that some people escape.
I would share my land with anyone in need, american or not. thats compassion not political beliefs.
Thinking in terms of what I can do to help my fellow american versus my fellow human to me is exactly what caused this issue.
If we spent our money on helping these people, they would stay where they live versus coming here. Why should we? Because WE CAN.....simple as that. Why should we help ANYONE in their time of need...because WE CAN, I would hate to think there are people who wouldnt in this world...
An example... 100 billion dollars is spent on failed Nasa projects no one even knows about, yet we could save tens of thousands of lives instead....actually make the world not just OUR country a better place to live.
Thats my opinion and I guess I do wish more believed as I do...although I respect you all in your own beliefs.
As a human being my heart goes out to each and every person that struggles every day in their country. Whether suffering from poverty, hunger, war, etc. I truly do feel sorry for them. I do feel blessed for knowing that I live in this country.
I do understand your statement where our government needs to be refocusing how they allocate their funds (Nasa vs. saving lives) and I do agree with you.
However, this goes back to the statement of not being able to save others without saving ourselves first. This country has put its head so far ups its asss and doesn't know whether it is coming or going on so many political issues (whether health care, WAR, etc.) that we need to really come back to home base, start taking care of our needs, focus on the issues within this country and then, maybe then we can start "saving the world".
How can a country that is so corrupt and so disheveled within itself think that is capable of being able to take care of others. If I am sick I can't take care of another person, so can a sick country take care of another sick country?
If you look around the world, I hardly think you can call the US disheveled, corrupt, etc. We function better than most countries around the world. Look at the 2000 election - despite all the drama, protests, and anger, no one was shot or killed, there was no revolution or overthrow - not even an attempted one! The US has her problems, I agree, but let's also be reasonable. When was the last time you worried aabout being the victim of government sponsored genocide? Or a government sponsored murder? The people in the US have an amazing quality of life.
You don't need people to be killed or revolutions to be corrupt. It doesn't take genocide either. If you want to talk about the 2000 elections, we were quite disheveled and we needed none of that. The ENTIRE world laughed at us while that was going on. We made a mockery of our voting system. And to this day people still can't figure out how to vote (look at the last election, we almost had a repeat of it). There was the whole Hurricane Katrina catastrophe that is still going on and the 9/11 debate that will never be revolved. Listen, every country has there issues and there are things going in within the government we don't even know about. I love this country and wouldn't want to be anywhere else. I just want to start focusing more on the people already here.
I agree that we have our own problems, I just think we don't have problems that compare to other countries in this world. As a human, I think we should help out fellow humans whenever we can. We'll just have to agree to disagree on this one.
No, I will agree with you on this one. Our problems are not like some of the prolems other countries face. See I agree 
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baghag
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by MrsS2005
So you would characterize an impoverished person's quality of life as amazing b/c he or she can receive food and medical attention? I'm sorry but although nothing can be compared to genocide and war torn countries, I don't think everything is sunshine and roses here. I feel very fortunate, but I don't think the homeless here are fortunate simply b/c they may have access to food and medical attention.
i didn't use the word amazing, you did. But yes, I have seen people who would be amazed, as you put it to receive food and medical care from the government.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
As a taxpayer I don't have any sympathy for illegal immigrants.
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Hi-Fi55
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
That quoting was getting long. Anyway, I agree our problems of the world may not be as severe as others. But we have our problems. Things take time to be resolved and if they don't start working themselves out now, maybe my children won't know a better life. And isn't that what we all strive for. Us, the people coming into the country (whether legally or illegally). We all just want the best in life.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by dita
As a taxpayer I don't have any sympathy for illegal immigrants.
As a taxpayer I don't have any sympathy for the ppl I see everyday around the block from my job on 5th avenue. They're chillin' with they're neighbors all day long at the welfare hotel. Able,healthy & strong enough to work. Hanging out and waiting for the blue medical bus to come take care of their needs and the needs of their 4,5,6+ children.
While my DH & I leave to work in the dark and come home in the dark,busting our a$$es to provide for 2 children.
Is THIS the kind of help everyone is talking about???
Personally I have nothing against a working person,its the ppl that milk the system that anger me. Thats why aI think such ppl are represented in the poverty stats (37 million) thus thinking the stats are overblown.
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MrsS2005
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by baghag
Posted by MrsS2005
So you would characterize an impoverished person's quality of life as amazing b/c he or she can receive food and medical attention? I'm sorry but although nothing can be compared to genocide and war torn countries, I don't think everything is sunshine and roses here. I feel very fortunate, but I don't think the homeless here are fortunate simply b/c they may have access to food and medical attention.
i didn't use the word amazing, you did. But yes, I have seen people who would be amazed, as you put it to receive food and medical care from the government.
Actually DMcK characterized the quality of life of Americans as "amazing" which was why I used that term. The US doesn't even have universal health care. At least many European countries (and Canada I think) can provide that to their citizens. Sure, you can get treated in an emergency, but it's not like the homeless or people without insurance can just go to any doctor for a check-up.
ETA: I'm sorry, but I just don't think everyone in the US has a great life. Overall, we're more fortunate than others, but plenty of people here need to be taken care of too.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by jana
Posted by dita
As a taxpayer I don't have any sympathy for illegal immigrants.
As a taxpayer I don't have any sympathy for the ppl I see everyday around the block from my job on 5th avenue. They're chillin' with they're neighbors all day long at the welfare hotel. Able,healthy & strong enough to work. Hanging out and waiting for the blue medical bus to come take care of their needs and the needs of their 4,5,6+ children.
While my DH & I leave to work in the dark and come home in the dark,busting our a$$es to provide for 2 children.
Is THIS the kind of help everyone is talking about???
Personally I have nothing against a working person,its the ppl that milk the system that anger me. Thats why aI think such ppl are represented in the poverty stats (37 million) thus thinking the stats are overblown.
The majority of the poor in this country work, they don't receive social assistance.
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Hi-Fi55
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Our health care system is nothing to brag about.
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
I think in an issue like this, there are no right or wrong answers. Neither a magic solution to solve it because of the amount of people that involves. I'm personally getting dizzy reading all these comments....so here is this for everyone..... Image Attachment(s):
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Hi-Fi55
12 years...wow....
Member since 2/06 2984 total posts
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Dianne
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Time for the bunny!!!! I know what that means! It's been fun, but I'm done!
Edited: I agree. There are no right or wrong answer in situations like these. Only time can tell and the future holds the answer.
Message edited 4/4/2006 4:18:13 PM.
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| Posted 4/4/06 4:16 PM |
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Jessica
I'm a mommy :)
Member since 1/06 7322 total posts
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~Jess~
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
In my heart, and what was taught to me by my Economics professors, I believe America can help the poor in this country as well as immigrants coming in. Why is it necessary that the govt spend billions if dollars on pointless experiments and studies. I'm not saying everone would receive a huge house or fancy car by any means, but I think the Us needs to do a better job in where they put their money.
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| Posted 4/4/06 4:17 PM |
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Jessica
I'm a mommy :)
Member since 1/06 7322 total posts
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~Jess~
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
I'M HAPPY EVERYONE WAS ABLE TO STATE THEIR OPINIONS AND CONCERNS ON THIS THREAD IN A CIVILIZD MANNER. I WAS VERY INTERESTED IN EVERYONE'S THOUGHTS AND AM PROUD THAT WE WERE ABLE TO REALIZE THAT PEOPLE JUST ALL HAVE DIFFERENG OPINIONS ON THIS TOPIC.
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| Posted 4/4/06 4:20 PM |
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Shelly
She's 7!!!
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Let me just add a (semi) personal story. I took on a pro bono case to get a Tibetan refugee asylum in the US. He was beaten, starved and detained at school at 15 years old for wearing a locket of the Dalai Lama. After 3 days of abuse he confessed his father gave him the locket. His father was then imprisoned for several months. His brother, a monk, was also imprisoned for attending a rally for freedom. My client participated in a freedom rally and the police came searching for him. At 17 he had to leave his country because he knew he would imprisoned and tortured. He came to the US because he had a relative here. He has been working since he arrived, although off the books because he cannot legally work here on the books. If he got sent back to Tibet, he woudl most certainly be killed.
I was so proud to be an American on the day he was granted asylum in this country. Yes we have plenty of problems on our own- but I don't think helping out immigrants like this is what will do us in. (Look at tax breaks and outsourcing in corporate America).
I am the daughter and grandaughter of holocaust survivors. My grandparents survived, but their brothers and sister's didn't. Mainly because they had no place to go. America turned down some people trying to escape the Nazis and sent them to the concentration camps. I think that America has room to save people who are escaping persecution in other countries.
Just something to think about....
Message edited 4/4/2006 4:28:36 PM.
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| Posted 4/4/06 4:28 PM |
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SweetestOfPeas
J'taime Paris!
Member since 3/06 32345 total posts
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Re: Illegal immigration debate
Posted by Summer05
In 2004 there were 37 million people in this country that were considered living in poverty. Maybe we should be looking in to helping them before we start helping the rest of the world.
I agree completely!
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| Posted 4/4/06 4:48 PM |
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